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Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

there are much, MUCH better reasons to loathe obama than his impotence in pushing that SC nom lol

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Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Another example: If you want to get rid of the Electoral College, don't make the Interstate Compact an agreement for the electors to vote the popular vote winner, that will never get 50%+ of the EC on board. Rather, you should make it an agreement to legally bind electors to vote for the Democratic candidate no matter what. It's not technically unconstitutional, if the conservatives hate it they'll have to fix our dumbass system.

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

Trabisnikof posted:

The constitution explicitly forbids that.

Not true, you need the permission of both Congress and the state legislature. It happened with West Virginia, remember?

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Mantis42 posted:

Not true, you need the permission of both Congress and the state legislature. It happened with West Virginia, remember?

Hypothetical case, the GOP right now today does this in Texas or something. What happens?

Edit: assuming your reading of constitutional precedent works

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

GreyjoyBastard posted:

Hypothetical case, the GOP right now today does this in Texas or something. What happens?

It works. But they're not going to do that. We should do it when we have power. Its such an absurd abuse of the system that the only reaction is to demand a change of the system itself. Or to copy the move tactically, but good luck with that when we can add however many senators we want at any moment.

The goal, of course, would be to abolish the Senate.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Kokoro Wish posted:

Bully pulpit.

Trump uses that quite effectively. Just check his twitter feed.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

El Pollo Blanco posted:

How would fighting harder for his SC nomination actually gotten it through the Senate? The only way to bully pulpit was to campaign harder for Hillary Clinton in order to secure a Dem SC nomination, and that would have gone down like a lead balloon as well.

Are you saying obama wasn't a dem? What would hillary be able to do that obama couldn't?

:thunk:

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

WhiskeyJuvenile posted:

Obama should have offered to pardon whoever killed any Republican senator while under federal jurisdiction

he didn't even try!

:agreed:

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Calibanibal posted:

there are much, MUCH better reasons to loathe obama than his impotence in pushing that SC nom lol

Agreed, but what about his term from March 2016 to January 20th 2017 specifically ?

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Are you saying obama wasn't a dem? What would hillary be able to do that obama couldn't?

:thunk:

Be president until 2020 or 2024, potentially during a democrat majority in Congress. Are you an absolute idiot or something?

Tarantula
Nov 4, 2009

No go ahead stand in the fire, the healer will love the shit out of you.
Crossposting from the D&D pics thread, man I wonder why American police have a bad reputation.
:nws: https://twitter.com/CharlieMBrownX/status/911334221519695872 :nws: cop shoots unarmed guy 7 times.

ate shit on live tv
Feb 15, 2004

by Azathoth

Captain Monkey posted:

Be president until 2020 or 2024, potentially during a democrat majority in Congress. Are you an absolute idiot or something?
Well bless your heart. A democrat majority is absolutely worthless unless they actually want to accomplish good things. And 2008-2010 indicates that they don't, so I'm not really sure why that is desirable to you.

Tarantula posted:

Crossposting from the D&D pics thread, man I wonder why American police have a bad reputation.
:nws: https://twitter.com/CharlieMBrownX/status/911334221519695872 :nws: cop shoots unarmed guy 7 times.

Sure would have been great if the 111th congress wanted to do something about those types of things, but they didn't. Maybe they just need another chance in 2020?

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Jesus, today, even as the GOP is trying to force an Obamacare repeal down the nation's throat despite such action having less than 20% approval rating, people are criticising Obama for being unable to appoint Garland.

I don't know what's wrong with you, because God, Country, and the Second Amendment stood between Garland and the Scalia seat, even despite his more moderate jurisprudence than successful appointments Sotomoyer and Kagan.

Obama's appointment notice was not going to be opened by the judicial committee, period, end of story. You cannot bully the
Christian Right into yielding on this such that 60 senatorial votes could provide necessary override. This was never going to happen. Senators would have to have been threatened violently or assassinated for Garland to fill a SCOTUS seat.

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Make DC, Guam, Puerto Rico, etc. states first then do that if you need more.

empty whippet box
Jun 9, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Tarantula posted:

Crossposting from the D&D pics thread, man I wonder why American police have a bad reputation.
:nws: https://twitter.com/CharlieMBrownX/status/911334221519695872 :nws: cop shoots unarmed guy 7 times.

I hope these cops get shot to death in the street next time they go outside.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

ate poo poo on live tv posted:

Well bless your heart. A democrat majority is absolutely worthless unless they actually want to accomplish good things. And 2008-2010 indicates that they don't, so I'm not really sure why that is desirable to you.


I don't even really disagree with you, but you asked a ridiculously stupid question if you paid even the slightest bit of attention to the context of what was being said.

Sulphagnist
Oct 10, 2006

WARNING! INTRUDERS DETECTED

Deteriorata posted:

Even if Garland had been recess appointed somehow, his term would have expired in January, 2017 and the Republicans would have gotten to pick the seat anyway.

And Trump would've been able to nominate for his vacant seat on the circuit court because Garland couldn't just magically take it back once his recess appointment lapsed.

There's a lot of poo poo Obama should get but there was literally nothing he could do about Garland absent the one suggestion of granting federal pardons to people assassinating obstructing Senators.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

SulphagneSocialist posted:

And Trump would've been able to nominate for his vacant seat on the circuit court because Garland couldn't just magically take it back once his recess appointment lapsed.

There's a lot of poo poo Obama should get but there was literally nothing he could do about Garland absent the one suggestion of granting federal pardons to people assassinating obstructing Senators.

Granted, Obama going on national TV demanding turtle soup would have been metal as gently caress.

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus

Tarantula posted:

Crossposting from the D&D pics thread, man I wonder why American police have a bad reputation.
:nws: https://twitter.com/CharlieMBrownX/status/911334221519695872 :nws: cop shoots unarmed guy 7 times.

Kill cops

this is a rereg
Sep 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Koalas March posted:

Name changes are a thing, buddy. Check the top of the forums.

Lmao no, you slanderous rear end in a top hat, that username has never been changed and was created more than a decade before anyone had ever heard of kek. Enjoy your D&D witchhunt.


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Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Don't worry folks, the EPA is on the case:

quote:

Fishery loses protection after EPA chief met a mining executive

Within hours of meeting with a mining company CEO, the new head of the US Environmental Protection Agency directed his staff to withdraw a plan to protect the watershed of Bristol Bay, Alaska, one of the most valuable wild salmon fisheries on Earth, according to interviews and government emails obtained by CNN.

The meeting between EPA Administrator Scott Pruitt and Tom Collier, CEO of Pebble Limited Partnership, took place on May 1, Collier and his staff confirmed in an interview with CNN.
At 10:36 a.m. that same day, the EPA's acting general counsel, Kevin Minoli, sent an email to agency staff saying the administrator had "directed" the agency to withdraw an Obama-era proposal to protect the ecologically valuable wetland in southwest Alaska from certain mining activities.
In 2014, after three years of peer-reviewed study, the Obama administration's EPA invoked a rarely used provision of the Clean Water Act to try to protect Bristol Bay after finding that a mine "would result in complete loss of fish habitat due to elimination, dewatering, and fragmentation of streams, wetlands, and other aquatic resources" in some areas of the bay.
"All of these losses would be irreversible," the agency said.
The area is regarded as one of the world's most important salmon fisheries, producing nearly half of the world's annual sockeye salmon catch. Its ecological resources also support 4,000-year-old indigenous cultures, as well as about 14,000 full- and part-time jobs, according to the EPA's 2014 report.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/22/politics/pebble-epa-bristol-bay-invs/index.html

this is a rereg
Sep 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Koalas March posted:


He used the word "closeted". He was implicitly defending racism.

No, the context was someone saying "boy i bet you guys sure aren't woke to your unconscious racism" and me saying, "no dude, we get that pointed out a lot here".

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

this is a rereg posted:

No, the context was someone saying "boy i bet you guys sure aren't woke to your unconscious racism" and me saying, "no dude, we get that pointed out a lot here".

lol you're logged into the wrong account buddy

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot
No he's actually talking about people calling out leftists as being secretly racist. Go back and check the context. This isn't hard.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

gently caress Whitey posted:

No he's actually talking about people calling out leftists as being secretly racist. Go back and check the context. This isn't hard.

this is a rereg didn't post about "no dude we get that pointed out a lot here" a different poster did. Check the post history it isn't long.

Edit: probably just Kekekela avoiding a probe, boring. I was hoping for something more entertaining.

Trabisnikof fucked around with this message at 09:44 on Sep 23, 2017

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot
Oh my bad I thought you were disputing what he was saying

Whatever I've stopped caring

this is a rereg
Sep 23, 2017

by FactsAreUseless

Trabisnikof posted:

lol you're logged into the wrong account buddy

the other one is probated for reporting a bunch of lovely gif posts


e:

quote:

probably just Kekekela avoiding a probe, boring. I was hoping for something more entertaining.

I was trying to make that clear w the username/posting combo :confused:

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

this is a rereg posted:

the other one is probated for reporting a bunch of lovely gif posts


e:


I was trying to make that clear w the username/posting combo :confused:

lol

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/911398115806023680

it's never the time for dems to take a strong stand on anything :negative:

well, not unless it's refusing to take a strong stand on anything that is...

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/911398115806023680

it's never the time for dems to take a strong stand on anything :negative:

well, not unless it's refusing to take a strong stand on anything that is...

Sir, that is a slander. Bad Dems take strong stands on the necessity of funneling money to the rich and bombing people in the third world.

90s Solo Cup
Feb 22, 2011

To understand the cup
He must become the cup



Your Boy Fancy posted:

I was really hoping someone was gonna answer that guy's question about St Louis. I'd like to know too.


Thirded. I realize that going on and on about Hillary and how she drank Bernie's milkshake and how she's horrible for it is DnD's favorite pasttime, but gently caress...I'd like to hear about what's going down in St. Louis, too.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Trabisnikof posted:

Seeing how defensive self-described leftists get when you ask how a leftist policy implemented in (racist) America won't end up racist, it isn't really that weird at all.

why are people so concerned about racism ruining singlepayer, but they weren't concerned about racism ruining ppaca? why is america's racism suddenly a reason to stop trying to improve things now? yeah we need to fight back against racism, but pushing for singlepayer doesn't stop that

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



this is a rereg posted:

No, the context was someone saying "boy i bet you guys sure aren't woke to your unconscious racism" and me saying, "no dude, we get that pointed out a lot here".

you're really avoiding your prob to poo poo on the black mod about how not racist you are with posts from how long ago.. 2 days?

Stop being a thinned skinned prick and gtfo before you get banned for avoiding your probation

You weren't even smart enough to pretend to be someone else hahaha

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Condiv posted:

https://twitter.com/davidsirota/status/911398115806023680

it's never the time for dems to take a strong stand on anything :negative:

well, not unless it's refusing to take a strong stand on anything that is...

To be fair, Sen Duckworth does not take very strong stands these days.

WrenP-Complete
Jul 27, 2012

Mustached Demon posted:

To be fair, Sen Duckworth does not take very strong stands these days.

To be fair, I think she takes awfully strong stands for the first female double amputee of the Iraq War.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

WrenP-Complete posted:

To be fair, I think she takes awfully strong stands for the first female double amputee of the Iraq War.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

oddly enough, rated worse than hated neolib Kamala Harris

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


WrenP-Complete posted:

To be fair, I think she takes awfully strong stands for the first female double amputee of the Iraq War.

https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/congress-trump-score/

I can't understand this chart what's going on here.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

The Kingfish posted:

I can't understand this chart what's going on here.

voting for or against things trump wants.

it counts raising the debt ceiling/harvey relief as pro trump so :shrug:

The Kingfish
Oct 21, 2015


Oh I figured it out. Had to press the percent column at the top of the chart. That is an insanely bad way to evaluate democratic politicians.

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Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Koalas March posted:

you're really avoiding your prob to poo poo on the black mod about how not racist you are with posts from how long ago.. 2 days?

Stop being a thinned skinned prick and gtfo before you get banned for avoiding your probation

You weren't even smart enough to pretend to be someone else hahaha

Ten dollars worth of white fragility.

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