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Ventana posted:Not that I disagree with this assessment, but were there any good legal shows or representations on TV back by 66-69 when TOS was airing? There are some good movies that I think did this pretty well by then, but I don't know about TV shows that did to at the time. I mean, "good" is a matter of taste but there were definitely courtroom dramas on tv in the 60s. Perry Mason ended right about the time TOS was airing I think. Court Martial is just a mediocre episode that cares more about the point it wants to make than about making sense at all.
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I was going to say Perry Mason. You beat me to it. The unrealistic legal wrangling in that episode is distracting. I don't think it's necessarily a bad episode, but Cogley is definitely no Matlock or Jack McCoy.
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I don't think Measure of a Man was ever intended as a 'remake', it just happened to be another courtroom episode (in large part because the writer had worked in law previously).
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Big Mean Jerk posted:This thread is busier than you think, especially when Jeb! posts his TNG reactions, and it seemed right to give Discovery its own thread so that people who watch the show but don't usually post here won't have to wade through dozens of posts concerning shows they've never watched. It also prevents this thread from becoming page after page of black-barred posts, which I guarantee someone would have complained about since there are multiple posters who won't be watching Discovery anytime soon or ever. This thread will be fine. Not to mention there's been times recently we had as many as 3 Doctor Who threads... It will be interessting to see what thread gets more posts each week, ST:D or Orville.
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Astroman posted:It will be interessting to see what thread gets more posts each week, ST:D or Orville. I'm choosing to read that abbreviation as "Star Trek  "
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MisterBibs posted:I might've said this before, but the Federation is a tech-focused faction in a 4X game that researched all the weapons technologies as prereqs for the +1 Energy Per Tile technology they really wanted. Don't make them think "Hey, we've got this stuff lying around, maybe we should use it?". Yes, yes, wrong sci-fi series but The Culture is basically the Federation turned up to 11 anyway.
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Itzena posted:"You might call them soft, because they’re very reluctant to kill, and they might agree with you, but they’re soft the way the ocean is soft, and, well; ask any sea captain how harmless and puny the ocean can be."
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Baronjutter posted:I was at a dino exhibit recently and they were saying the new theory is that they were both, or neither. They could generate their own body heat when needed, but they also had aspects of cold-blooded animals where they'd need sun to supplement this. They weren't 100% sure how it worked but they were pretty sure dino's almost didn't fit into the hot/cold blooded binary and were sort of their own thing that we don't see anymore. Neat!
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Mister Kingdom posted:I knew it! David Byrne is a Romulan! Stop making sense.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:I don't think Measure of a Man was ever intended as a 'remake', it just happened to be another courtroom episode (in large part because the writer had worked in law previously).
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Sep 24, 2017 01:11
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Watching Hero Worship. Some kind of weird space thing seems to have happened to the ship they found.
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Sep 24, 2017 03:24
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The scene where they're looking around the derelict ship kind of reminds me of the episode where Troi tried to stop everyone's space madness with her dreams. I think they still haven't said what possible causes where for all the crew deaths. Oh poo poo a survivor
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Sep 24, 2017 03:27
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So the boy's for sure gonna idolize someone on the Enterprise, but is it gonna be Data since he saved him? Data's sitting in for the counseling session when he probably wouldn't otherwise so I'm guessing yes.
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Sep 24, 2017 03:34
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The blocking is really weird for this scene, Geordi just walked farther away from Data to dilvulge this personal thing so he'd have to talk louder and let everybody in the engineering section hear it
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Sep 24, 2017 03:39
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Sep 24, 2017 03:40
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Is Troi ever more useful than just a particularly empathetic and perceptive human would be
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The young actor and the writing around him are good though Holy poo poo Data's lack of tact is a lot more apparent with a kid
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Sep 24, 2017 03:45
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The moment where Data goes back to finish the model before he leaves is so sweet
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Is Troi ever more useful than just a particularly empathetic and perceptive human would be Is she even that useful
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Sep 24, 2017 03:49
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"I am functioning within established parameters" Lol oh god 
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cheetah7071 posted:Is she even that useful I'm sensing hostility from this post.
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Sep 24, 2017 03:52
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 This shot's supposed to be showing how tempting the food is and I've gotta say, it's effective. I want all that stuff badly now
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Sep 24, 2017 03:53
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I have a feeling this psychology is bunk
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Sep 24, 2017 03:55
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Jeb! Repetition posted:
It's recycled poop filled with vitamins
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Sep 24, 2017 03:55
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Data trying to brush his hair is one of the funniest things I've ever seen
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Sep 24, 2017 03:56
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Drink-Mix Man posted:It's recycled poop filled with vitamins So's our current food if you think about it.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:So's our current food if you think about it. vegetables are sunbeams and poop
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Troi would have been a lot better if they had an actual psychologist on the writing staff for her, but she is decent dealing with kids. This episode and Worf/Alexander. Generally she is bunko supreme and even gets freudian at least once
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Wow the shields even deflect gravity itself
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Sep 24, 2017 04:09
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Dammit I think I missed them explaining what a black cluster is.
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Sep 24, 2017 04:11
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Wow the shields even deflect gravity itself lol I mean, I guess the could. They have total anti-grav and artificial gravity. I can usually figure out what you are talking about easily but I'm not sure what you're on about here.
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Sep 24, 2017 04:11
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Having Data explain to the boy how he wants to be human is such a good idea, both from Troi and from the writers
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The Bloop posted:lol I mean, I guess the could. They have total anti-grav and artificial gravity. They put up the shields to protect the ship from gravity waves. I just never realized they could actually negate gravity before. Makes me wonder if they could go beyond a black hole's event horizon.
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Sep 24, 2017 04:20
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Oh the kid was just feeling guilty over nothing
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Jeb! Repetition posted:They put up the shields to protect the ship from gravity waves. I just never realized they could actually negate gravity before. Makes me wonder if they could go beyond a black hole's event horizon. Depends on the black hole. The supermassive ones in galactic cores you could theoretically enter even without gravity control, as the event horizon is out far enough that the tidal forces wouldn't shred you to subatomic particles. You might not even necessarily know you'd crossed it.
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Well the shields turned out to be centrally relevant to the plot. It's a weird coincidence that the fact that they could interact with gravity made me pay extra attention to them. Although it turns out they can't "negate" it after all
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Is Troi ever more useful than just a particularly empathetic and perceptive human would be never, really there were moments where she says "he seems angry, Captain" after the guy on screen smashes a coffee cup, but I liked Troi best in the later seasons when she had more scenes in a consular's room
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That was a cute episode.
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