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Burkion posted:Iron Fist should have been what Luke Cage sort of tried to be If only Lee van Cleef was still alive. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DAZp_wbv0h4
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Paolomania posted:You are projecting. Nothing in my observation of how these conflicts are present says that they are a bad thing that must be banned. Rather they are exactly the right thing for maximal masturbatory enjoyment (in the same way as the madonna/whore motif) by a cenrtain audience that is themselves steeped in these contradictions of Protestantism and Liberalism (as Snyder certainly is). To assert that simply by making these observations I am expressing opposition is to presume that there is something intrinsically wrong with either masturbation (not likely) or contradiction (an excusable mistake for a Marxist). I did not write anything about banning. I wrote the opposite: that you cannot ban the film, leaving your only recourse mere complaint about morality/'taste'. The trouble with your 'observation' is that your "cenrtain audience" of orthodox masturbators does not exist. It is a fictive other - a subject supposed to enjoy. When you observe something that doesn't actually exist, that's called fantasy. Again, instead of an basic ideological critique of the film, you are concerned solely with the mysterious figure of Zack Snyder - imagining his deep inner feelings, imagining his erect penis, imagining that he is 'trolling you', etc. So even though the film is not liberal, is a straightforward satire of liberalism, you can imagine that Snyder is secretly a liberal 'deep inside', beneath his actions. This is all very familiar. By the same operation, the Snyder-figure can be a secret fascist, a secret objectivist, a secret 'jock', secret 'goth', and so-on. Superman let those people die because he secretly wanted to.
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Iron Fist being a ridiculous, spoiled fuckup is easily the best thing in any of the Marvel Netflix shows. Like, if the other shows had good action I'd get the complaints, but at this point you should know what you're in for.
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The IF gif of his fight in an evidence room (or is just a file room?) where it loops almost perfectly into an endless lovely fight cracks me up. I didn't watch the show, but in Defenders he got constantly made fun of by the others and I thought that was funny.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Iron Fist being a ridiculous, spoiled fuckup is easily the best thing in any of the Marvel Netflix shows. Like, if the other shows had good action I'd get the complaints, but at this point you should know what you're in for. The thing is, Daredevil DID have good fights. And Defenders seems to go out of its way to show how much better Daredevil is at fighting than Iron Fist, the man literally raised to be a kung fu god When your entire show is built around martial arts it might help if you had some
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MacheteZombie posted:The IF gif of his fight in an evidence room (or is just a file room?) where it loops almost perfectly into an endless lovely fight cracks me up. Do you have it? The most disappointing part of doing an image search for "bad iron fist fight" is that "bad" didn't affect the results and just shows me spectacular panels and pages from good Iron Fist comics. In the run-up to the show being released I went on an Iron Fist comic binge. Never ended up watching the show from hearing so much poo poo about it. So much wasted potential. Just that first story arc in the comics where he comes to New York and ends up working his way up through the trap- and enemy-filled floors of the skyscraper like a superhero take on Game of Death would have made for a fantastic episode.
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IF lacked the one thing both seasons of DD did have which was a big showpiece fight like the hallways fight from DD season 1 or the stairwell fight from season 2. The closest was the drunken master fight but that didn't have the epic feel of either of those. Although neither of those in DD came at the end of the season either, and both of the final fights in both DD seasons were trash. The second season finale being bad enough to nearly tank the rest of the season with how sloppy and hastily thrown together it was. Sir Kodiak posted:Iron Fist being a ridiculous, spoiled fuckup is easily the best thing in any of the Marvel Netflix shows. I do totally agree with this and was about to post something similar. His character is hilarious and a refreshing change from the stoic badass with a heart of gold that most of these other heroes are (more or less). In any case, the problem is not at all on Finn Jones' acting. He is playing the naive 12 year old with arrested development returning to modern civilization incredibly well. He is not a "likable protagonist" in the traditional sense but this doesn't translate to acting/writing gently caress ups.
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Yeah, exactly, he's a spoiled rich kid in the fights as well. His magic fist is the martial arts equivalent of being born on third base and thinking he hit a triple.Burkion posted:The thing is, Daredevil DID have good fights. Nah. It had fights that were technically proficient enough to not be entertainingly odd without ever rising to the level of actually good. Sir Kodiak fucked around with this message at 19:29 on Sep 22, 2017 |
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Guy A. Person posted:IF lacked the one thing both seasons of DD did have which was a big showpiece fight like the hallways fight from DD season 1 or the stairwell fight from season 2. The closest was the drunken master fight but that didn't have the epic feel of either of those. Yeah, the hallway scene was clearly meant to go viral as soon as possible after the show dropped. And it worked.
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Lobok posted:Do you have it? Not sure how to embed this https://streamable.com/cmctg
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I think this is sort of relevant given all the recent Watchmen talk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jFwhIjlR5g
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MonsieurChoc posted:If only Lee van Cleef was still alive. Watched the first ep of that show, pretty cheesy but gently caress if Van Cleef couldn't sell a badass master ninja. Just by voice and body movements (I mean it was obvious there was a stunt double swathed in the ninja clothing). But he was good enough for me to almost believe that he was a loving ninja. That's good acting, and that's good enough to make that show worth watching. Too bad about Iron Fist tho. e: Lobok posted:Do you have it? I think googling 50 Iron Fist cuts in one fight might do the trick.
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Shageletic posted:e: I also linked it a few posts up  Van Cleef was a badass.
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Shageletic posted:Watched the first ep of that show, pretty cheesy but gently caress if Van Cleef couldn't sell a badass master ninja. Just by voice and body movements (I mean it was obvious there was a stunt double swathed in the ninja clothing). That show is FINALLY coming to DVD! MonsieurChoc posted:If only Lee van Cleef was still alive. And they better not edit out this theme tune!
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MacheteZombie posted:I also linked it a few posts up Yeah I was so beat I didn't even try to e;fb it. Nice job.
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what if dying just warped superman into permanent unshakable optimism to the point of insanity dying is probably pretty traumatic
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Jesus was pretty down before he died, but seemed pretty chill after
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I hope Batman won't have to punch Superman to death while crying.
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Sir Kodiak posted:Iron Fist being a ridiculous, spoiled fuckup is easily the best thing in any of the Marvel Netflix shows. Like, if the other shows had good action I'd get the complaints, but at this point you should know what you're in for. The best thing about the show was the early episodes where it's not quite clear if he is really a Kun-Lun Kung Fu man or just a crazy homeless dude spouting nonsense.
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Actually, they should get the Ninja the Mission Force guys to do season 2 of Iron Fist. They'd do it for cheap too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bx2WsVbKdzU
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Haha, those changes to Justice League, if true, are terrible. Whedon is the god drat worst, holy poo poo. It just un-does everything BvS was setting up. No wonder DC just wants to scrap all of it and just do one-off stories featuring new actors. I'm also now convinced Affleck is out after JL.
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JL definitely seems like a case of waiting for the director's cut. Funny that they made a big enough deal about bringing Whedon in to make it all happy and bright like Marvel movies and then whoops, he's a creepy philanderer who's lost all cache.
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Crows Turn Off posted:Haha, those changes to Justice League, if true, are terrible. Whedon is the god drat worst, holy poo poo. It just un-does everything BvS was setting up. All BvS was setting up was Superman dead, and there's something bad coming.
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Yeah, Flash/Aquaman/Cyborg were all left specifically vague enough to not touch on whoever picked up the solo movies to have a bunch of leeway with the characters. Although Luthor supposedly being vanished from the film when he's the only man on the planet who knows about Steppenwolf and the importance of the Mother Boxes and all that stuff is unfortunate since there's no greater excuse to have our first peek at Arkham than Batman deciding to pay Lex a visit and is a great way to quickly explain what the gently caress Steppenwolf is and why he's a threat. Of course there's a lot of "hey this might all be bullshit" going around about that synopsis, too. So who the gently caress knows until opening night or at least critic screenings.
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The Cameo posted:Yeah, Flash/Aquaman/Cyborg were all left specifically vague enough to not touch on whoever picked up the solo movies to have a bunch of leeway with the characters. Well, supposedly Cyborg is part mother box, so I'm sure it's easier to just have him "access" that info than having to shoot additional scenes at Arkham
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Yeah, but that's much more boring. Although it does keep the cast list from swelling, I suppose. Saves a few hundred thousand dollars (that disappears into the ether of FX houses as one of them renders Cyborg accessing the box).
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The Cameo posted:Yeah, but that's much more boring. It would also cut down on runtime, set building, casting as you pointed out. euphronius posted:Is the mother box basically an infinity gem ? It's a semi intelligent computer/transporter. Basically, Siri, with no access to porn
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Davros1 posted:It's a semi intelligent computer/transporter. Even the most advanced technology has its limitations. I guess this is why Darkseid kept Sleez around, up until that whole 'mind control Superman and Big Barda to make porn I can sell to raise an army to overthrow Darkseid' thing fell apart.
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MacheteZombie posted:Not sure how to embed this Why are all the boxes empty?
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[quote="“The Cameo”" post="“476679567”"] Although Luthor supposedly being vanished from the film when he's the only man on the planet who knows about Steppenwolf and the importance of the Mother Boxes and all that stuff is unfortunate since there's no greater excuse to have our first peek at Arkham than Batman deciding to pay Lex a visit and is a great way to quickly explain what the gently caress Steppenwolf is and why he's a threat. [/quote]In the beginning of the SDCC trailer for JL when they're talking about the death of Superman being mourned around the world, there's a brief audio clip of a German newscast. The person says something to the effect of "It was reported today that Lex Luthor has escaped from Arkham Asylum."
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Davros1 posted:
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The motherboxes are literally :technobabble: brought to life. In the comics, they are computers that figure out how to revive the dead, go back in time, make people immortal, tereaform planets, turn people into robots, turn robots into people, have access to information about time periods when no life existed, and basically "whatever the writer really needs it to do."
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https://twitter.com/RevistaEmpire/status/911678095891091456 Henry 
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euphronius posted:So infinity stones ok. That's what I thought . There's no notion of gathering them or increasing their power through having several of them. They don't really have any of the DNA of the One Ring in them like the infinity stones do. They're both pseudo-technological magic plot devices though - and Justice League's mother boxes might be closer to the MCU's infinity stones given both that audiences will be much more familiar with that concept and also it's ripe for some deconstruction - what would it mean to be touched by the technology of the gods etc.
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Well, I can see why they didn't want him to shave off that mustache. It's glorious!
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MacheteZombie posted:Not sure how to embed this My favourite part is that the guy just keeps stabbing the book in front of his chest. The book that the hero makes no effort to move at all. SolidSnakesBandana posted:I have a trailer here with some dope rear end gunplay in it. I must have blinked. Serf posted:This is absolutely true. There's not enough meat on them bones to go for 13 episodes. I think only Daredevil S1 justified every episode, and even then I think you could trim it down to 10. Daredevil still had two or threee episodes that were almost entirely flashbacks. Burkion posted:The thing is, Daredevil DID have good fights. Daredevil had good fights for a TV show. The most impressive fight (the long take, obviously) killed its own energy with its gimmick, as you watched the stuntmen lie down, recover and stand up again. This isn't unique to Daredevil. I always thought long, single take fight scenes were actually kind of overrated.
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I rewatched Guardians 2 last night. I forgot how much Ego's planet resembled the Land of Oz. Nice allusion that suggests not everything is as it seems.
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