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I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

those are both art, you loving Philistine.

on the internet plus side, some of them are probably getting into Wagner and opera these days.

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Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

business hammocks posted:

on the internet plus side, some of them are probably getting into Wagner and opera these days.

That's way worse than anime.

Darkman Fanpage
Jul 4, 2012
wagner is garbage. opera is garbage.

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
opera is just live action anime

Crazycryodude
Aug 15, 2015

Lets get our X tons of Duranium back!

....Is that still a valid thing to jingoistically blow out of proportion?


Admiral Ray posted:

opera is just live action anime

It's disturbing how accurate this is

JUICY HAMBUGAR
Nov 10, 2010

Eating, America's pastime.
Pro wrestling is opera's apotheosis.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Darkman Fanpage posted:

wagner is garbage. opera is garbage.

gently caress yeah i goddamn hate wagner

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

That's way worse than anime.

white nationalists love opera and classical music

ergo, i hate opera and classical music :v:

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Race Realists posted:

white nationalists love opera and classical music

ergo, i hate opera and classical music :v:

The correct line on Wagner was set by Looney Tunes.
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1atzuy

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

I saw an alt-right guy argue once that Americans' embrace of parody and taking high art unseriously was the downfall of Western Civilization, and that Looney Tunes was a degenerate cultural force.

Fuck Whitey
Nov 9, 2016

by SA Support Robot

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

I saw an alt-right guy argue once that Americans' embrace of parody and taking high art unseriously was the downfall of Western Civilization, and that Looney Tunes was a degenerate cultural force.

Apostate

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

JUICY HAMBUGAR posted:

Pro wrestling is opera's apotheosis.

Pro Wrestling is America's greatest art form.

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Montasque posted:

Pro Wrestling is America's greatest art form.

Jazz would like a word.

SunAndSpring
Dec 4, 2013
It's odd how much alt-right people claim to loathe post-modernism and yet their (and really all fascism in general) modus operandi is basically the active rejection and mockery of hundreds of years of tradition in Western thought that led up to such stunning claims as "maybe you should treat people equally" and "hierarchical societies loving blow" so that they can indulge their innate sadism and treat people terribly. You'll hear Pepes go "Marxism is post-modernist bullshit!", which is odd considering Marxism came about in the early days of modernism, and also most Marxists are deathly serious about their claims. Even the more ironic and jokey leftists are never coy about what they want to achieve and have optimistic and constructive goals, unlike every loving Nazi who will invent a brand new ideology on the spot to avoid getting called a Nazi and basically at the deepest depths of their heart wants to live in some eternally warring hellworld where everything bends to their whim.

temple
Jul 29, 2006

I have actual skeletons in my closet

SunAndSpring posted:

It's odd how much alt-right people claim to loathe post-modernism and yet their (and really all fascism in general) modus operandi is basically the active rejection and mockery of hundreds of years of tradition in Western thought that led up to such stunning claims as "maybe you should treat people equally" and "hierarchical societies loving blow" so that they can indulge their innate sadism and treat people terribly. You'll hear Pepes go "Marxism is post-modernist bullshit!", which is odd considering Marxism came about in the early days of modernism, and also most Marxists are deathly serious about their claims. Even the more ironic and jokey leftists are never coy about what they want to achieve and have optimistic and constructive goals, unlike every loving Nazi who will invent a brand new ideology on the spot to avoid getting called a Nazi and basically at the deepest depths of their heart wants to live in some eternally warring hellworld where everything bends to their whim.

Anyone that makes up a political identifier usually a broke brain/closet conservative. It never fails.

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

SunAndSpring posted:

It's odd how much alt-right people claim to loathe post-modernism and yet their (and really all fascism in general) modus operandi is basically the active rejection and mockery of hundreds of years of tradition in Western thought that led up to such stunning claims as "maybe you should treat people equally" and "hierarchical societies loving blow" so that they can indulge their innate sadism and treat people terribly. You'll hear Pepes go "Marxism is post-modernist bullshit!", which is odd considering Marxism came about in the early days of modernism, and also most Marxists are deathly serious about their claims. Even the more ironic and jokey leftists are never coy about what they want to achieve and have optimistic and constructive goals, unlike every loving Nazi who will invent a brand new ideology on the spot to avoid getting called a Nazi and basically at the deepest depths of their heart wants to live in some eternally warring hellworld where everything bends to their whim.

Since Andrew Breitbart they REALLY adopted post-modernism, cultural marxism, and Alinsky tactics.

They are, and always will be, everything that they hate. Basic bitch motherfuckers.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

SunAndSpring posted:

It's odd how much alt-right people claim to loathe post-modernism and yet their (and really all fascism in general) modus operandi is basically the active rejection and mockery of hundreds of years of tradition in Western thought that led up to such stunning claims as "maybe you should treat people equally" and "hierarchical societies loving blow" so that they can indulge their innate sadism and treat people terribly. You'll hear Pepes go "Marxism is post-modernist bullshit!", which is odd considering Marxism came about in the early days of modernism, and also most Marxists are deathly serious about their claims. Even the more ironic and jokey leftists are never coy about what they want to achieve and have optimistic and constructive goals, unlike every loving Nazi who will invent a brand new ideology on the spot to avoid getting called a Nazi and basically at the deepest depths of their heart wants to live in some eternally warring hellworld where everything bends to their whim.

An essential element of fascism is its fetishization of commodities and the modern technologies that enable their production. Fascists reject European traditions of liberalism and socialism because - on the one hand liberals grant that access to commodities should be dependent only on the material means of an individual acquired through a free society, and on the other hand socialists want to destroy the commodity form altogether and grant people access to goods due to a natural right as human beings to a materially secure life. Fascists reject both of these approaches to commodities, because they believe that access to material goods should be dependent on one's service to the state and the nation. Great servants to the nation will be duly rewarded, and degenerates will be immiserated. To punish the corrosive elements of society is essential to their world view.

That's why Fascism is a reactionary ideology despite being explicitly modernistic. Fascists reject the liberationist trends of European philosophy in favor of a vulgar technologism.

Fascists and Nazis today may be expressing - unwittingly - postmodernist thought because they're unfamiliar with the subject to begin with, but fascism is a decisively modernistic ideology. Fascists believe that they alone can objectively define the truth of the world, and that this truth is reinforced by reason and scientific evidence. Homosexuality isn't degenerate because God says it is, but because it's dysgenic to the health of the nation by suppressing birthrates, and so on and so on. They're obsessed with the notion of their own rational certitude, while postmodernists question the value of reason to begin with. They don't merely question liberal hegemony, but insist that their reactionary alternative is objectively true and good.

Bilirubin
Feb 16, 2014

The sanctioned action is to CHUG


Montasque posted:

Since Andrew Breitbart they REALLY adopted post-modernism, cultural marxism, and Alinsky tactics.

They are, and always will be, everything that they hate. Basic bitch motherfuckers.

You tell 'em E

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Race Realists posted:

white nationalists love opera and classical music

ergo, i hate opera and classical music :v:

lol if anyone thinks modern US white nationalists have the attention span for 5 hour long operas in languages they don't understand

even most AfD voters probably don't

Doctor Spaceman
Jul 6, 2010

"Everyone's entitled to their point of view, but that's seriously a weird one."

El Pollo Blanco posted:

lol if anyone thinks modern US white nationalists have the attention span for 5 hour long operas in languages they don't understand

even most AfD voters probably don't

Rossini made the joke that Wagner has "good moments, but awful quarters of an hour!" over 150 years ago

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Doctor Spaceman posted:

Rossini made the joke that Wagner has "good moments, but awful quarters of an hour!" over 150 years ago

A joke which applies more accurately to Rossini than it does Wagner, ironically.

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

El Pollo Blanco posted:

lol if anyone thinks modern US white nationalists have the attention span for 5 hour long operas in languages they don't understand

even most AfD voters probably don't

but why do all the Blood And Soil dipshits i see on twitter have Classical avatars? :-(





https://twitter.com/FriendlyJMC/status/739120672446676992



EDIT:

http://www.gameobjective.com/about/


BornAPoorBlkChild has issued a correction as of 03:58 on Sep 25, 2017

Arcteryx Anarchist
Sep 15, 2007

Fun Shoe

SunAndSpring posted:

It's odd how much alt-right people claim to loathe post-modernism and yet their (and really all fascism in general) modus operandi is basically the active rejection and mockery of hundreds of years of tradition in Western thought that led up to such stunning claims as "maybe you should treat people equally" and "hierarchical societies loving blow" so that they can indulge their innate sadism and treat people terribly. You'll hear Pepes go "Marxism is post-modernist bullshit!", which is odd considering Marxism came about in the early days of modernism, and also most Marxists are deathly serious about their claims. Even the more ironic and jokey leftists are never coy about what they want to achieve and have optimistic and constructive goals, unlike every loving Nazi who will invent a brand new ideology on the spot to avoid getting called a Nazi and basically at the deepest depths of their heart wants to live in some eternally warring hellworld where everything bends to their whim.

They scream about postmodernism because Jordan Peterson told them to

Montasque
Jul 18, 2003

Living in a hateful world sending me straight to Heaven

lancemantis posted:

They scream about postmodernism because Jordan Peterson told them to

Peterson got them mad about Postmoderism like Breitbart got them upset about Cultural Marxism and Saul Alinsky.

I can almost guarantee more far-righties own a copy of RULES FOR RADICALS than lefties do.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Re: opera vs. anime

https://twitter.com/omegaro/status/911688433269182464

NickRoweFillea
Sep 27, 2012

doin thangs

Zeroisanumber posted:

Jazz would like a word.

Jazz can have three words: Hustle, Loyalty, Respect

viral spiral
Sep 19, 2017

by R. Guyovich

Montasque posted:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezbmC4ZkncU

Look at those chompers. I bet they glow in the dark. At least we know where those Mercer bucks went.

Yeah, I noticed the blatant uncanny look of his teeth in that video. What the gently caress did he do? He looks like a horse with those.

El Pollo Blanco
Jun 12, 2013

by sebmojo

Zeroisanumber posted:

Jazz would like a word.

If anyone thinks that Jazz , and by extension, Hip-hop aren't the greatest genuinely American artforms then lol

Lawrence Gilchrist
Mar 31, 2010

The Boys In The Band 2 off to a great start

Eela6
May 25, 2007
Shredded Hen

business hammocks posted:

They don't understand what art is. They think it's anime and painted covers for novels about wizards.

A painting of a wizard is only art if it's on the side of a sweet van.

The greatest American art form is Detroit Techno.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


JUICY HAMBUGAR posted:

Pro wrestling is opera's apotheosis.

pro wrestling is... anime???

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
pro wrestling is operanime

Al!
Apr 2, 2010

:coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot::coolspot:

Admiral Ray posted:

pro wrestling is operanime

is a piledriver a sandwich?

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy
no, only things like hot dogs and pop tarts are sandwiches.

Crowsbeak
Oct 9, 2012

by Azathoth
Lipstick Apathy
I listen to opera. Classical MPR always has it on the weekend. :(

Admiral Ray
May 17, 2014

Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Crowsbeak posted:

I listen to opera. Classical MPR always has it on the weekend. :(

then you're already an opera weeb. one short step from here and you'll be wearing naruto headbands and running with your arms behind you.

Grand Prize Winner
Feb 19, 2007


Admiral Ray posted:

then you're already an opera weeb. one short step from here and you'll be wearing naruto headbands and running with your arms behind you.

just like lizst

Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻



There's vid of BakedAlaska getting his phone broken by a bunch of women than whining about it like a... I dunno, a whiner. It's funny!

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
lol

https://twitter.com/ali/status/9105...ageid%3D6597648

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BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy
I can pretty much watch Baked Alaska getting clowned on all day.

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