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sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth

ham_sanitizer posted:

do you just consider the press a superior exercise? what do you do for chest?

A properly done overhead press is vastly superior, yes. Big shoulders are more important than big boobs, healthy shoulders are more important than big boobs, and you can eyefuck yourself in the mirror while doing it.

I used to bench once a week and do lots of cable presses for chest, but I haven't trained it directly in maybe two years now.

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Comfy Fleece Sweater
Apr 2, 2013

You see, but you do not observe.

Uhhhh

Ok...

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

Please exercise your chest and dont listen to this guy. It's like a guy listened to bodybuilders saying they dont do flat barbell bench because of shoulder and elbow impinging and instead do decline barbell or flat dumbbell. But instead made an autistic leap of faith and was like welp guess i never have to train chest again *laughs when he sees someone doing dips* look at this novice.

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009
i loving love training with someone newer to lifting and see them lift the weight they're stalling on when i put two fingers from each hand under the bar and act like I'm helping when I'm doing nothing. It's interesting psychologically but it's great seeing someone reach a new max without realizing it at first.

Paper Diamonds
Sep 2, 2011

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

i loving love training with someone newer to lifting and see them lift the weight they're stalling on when i put two fingers from each hand under the bar and act like I'm helping when I'm doing nothing. It's interesting psychologically but it's great seeing someone reach a new max without realizing it at first.
The real trick is to NOT use a spotter with a weight heavy enough to kill you if you get pinned.

You either finish the rep, or you die. :kheldragar:

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

i loving love training with someone newer to lifting and see them lift the weight they're stalling on when i put two fingers from each hand under the bar and act like I'm helping when I'm doing nothing. It's interesting psychologically but it's great seeing someone reach a new max without realizing it at first.

I did that today with my friend.

It's a good feeling.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005

Constipated posted:

Only benching for 3 sets just seems.. like not enough to make any difference in terms of strength gains. Doing that 3 times a week doesn't make sense to me. That's like lubing up your dick, watching porn for exactly one minute and stopping when you're hard and putting your pants back on. I'd like to bench twice a week but mostly ever manage once with a couple sets of pushups on the weekend, I never go to my gym on the weekend.

It was just an example of "here is a way in which you can bench 3x a week without tearing up your shoulder". Personally I'm doing 5/3/1 with 5x3@90%BBB on opposite lift day, and my 3rd bench session is just close grip bench as an accessory because my arms are small. All I know is my strength is going back up again. Maybe it'll hit a wall soon, maybe not, if it does I'll worry about it then. And I'm doing my face pulls and general pulling, everything is going good in terms of body not breaking down. I just felt like I was being unnecessarily shat on and not in the sexy way.

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
I will never poo poo on you DDD.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
i just can't catch a break

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

We love you DDD

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
thank you. i feel like the mr bean of working out.

I think I enjoy OHP more than Bench now though. I'll probably hit 1 plate on OHP before I hit 2 on bench and I'm good with that. I'm very excited for OHP day tomorrow. It's only 5s day but maybe I'll get a nice rep PR

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
Welcome to GBS, I love you.

e:f;b

I haven't hit one plate with OHP yet, but dammit I'm trying. I can strict press 125 for 2 or 3 reps, for like one set. Then I have to start using leg drive. I'm just now getting over a number of small nagging injuries, so hopefully 1 plate isn't too far away.

Constipated fucked around with this message at 10:52 on Sep 23, 2017

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

This might be controversial but I do OHP and Bench on the same day

Bench for focusing on my titties and OHP for focusing on those things next to my head, that my arms are attached to

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
yeah me too. I do my 5/3/1 Bench, then maybe a heavier set or maybe a pyramid down instead, then I do 5 sets of 3 reps for 90% training max of OHP. I reverse it on OHP day and it's working out great so far at least. For whatever reason doing sets of heavier weights at 3 reps is easier on my body than a lot of high rep stuff plus it's just more fun.

edit: I've never tested max or near max for my OHP. one rep max calculators put me at 118-120 though and my bench one rep is probably around 190.

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
Paging Dr. Zzulu. What is your expert diagnosis?

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
You can do bench

Thumbs up for bench. Zzulu approved

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
I would love to bench more and build dem titties up, but my triceps get a little sore from the repetitive bullshit I do at work, and I'd only be inviting more pain and discomfort into my life. Actually its probably the triceps tendon right above the elbow joint, not really sure.

Zzulu
May 15, 2009

(▰˘v˘▰)
Simply remove your triceps

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
I would sign up for the Ghost in the Shell treatment in a split second. As long as I had a penis that worked and felt natural.

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
I don't recommend not training chest at all I had to stop because of elbow pain. Which is much better than it was 12 months ago so maybe I should start again.

But I haven't really missed it and I can max out on press every week now without igniting my previously torn shoulder bits like this.

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

The moobs are coming

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
Showed my friend how to deadlift.
Best thing I've said all week:
"I'm sorry, you're gonna have to look at my butt."

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

Showed my friend how to deadlift.
Best thing I've said all week:
"I'm sorry, you're gonna have to look at my butt."

Did you just quote yourself? That's a baller move

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
I did.

That's how good the quote was.

Data Graham
Dec 28, 2009

📈📊🍪😋



I think you just owned your own butt tho

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
Of course i own my butt.
I own it all the time.

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009
6 full extension/pause widegrip pullups with two 45's hanging off my waist


I WILL BE THE VILLAIN IN MIGHTY DUCKS 4 IF IT KILLS ME

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Calvin Johnson Jr. posted:

6 full extension/pause widegrip pullups with two 45's hanging off my waist


I WILL BE THE VILLAIN IN MIGHTY DUCKS 4 IF IT KILLS ME

sir this is the thread for salami gains not steroid gains

Calvin Johnson Jr.
Dec 8, 2009

Chief McHeath posted:

sir this is the thread for salami gains not steroid gains

sir, salami is a PED

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
Okay apparently 2 weeks no lifting + 1 week no deadlifting wasn't sufficient.

My back hurt brushing my teeth and walking out of the shower.

I'm getting...

old.

It was only 315 :qq:

Rodenthar Drothman fucked around with this message at 02:00 on Sep 25, 2017

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
I lean over my sink to get close to my bathroom mirror alot, and that's enough to irritate my lower back sometimes :(

Spinal.

Drunk Driver Dad
Feb 18, 2005
haha, you guys are more injured than me. After I've been standing a while at work my lower back gets tight but just sort of bending over and rounding it out while letting my arms dangle fixes it right up. I even get a satisfying pop somewhere around there, maybe my SI joint but it feels good and has been doing it for a while with no ill effect

edit: to be more constructive, do you guys stretch your rear end muscles and lacrosse ball it? also the legs up the wall hamstring stretch helps too. I also jam a foam roller into my QL by tilting to the side and sort of do tiny little massaging motions with it which also feels good. I don't think you're supposed to roll up and down over your lower spine, I'm not sure if it's actually bad but it doesn't really hit anything that way. That's why I do the little tilt thing

I may not be strong yet, but I know some ways to work around injuries by now so there's that

Drunk Driver Dad fucked around with this message at 09:50 on Sep 25, 2017

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
Yes, "toe touches" and dangly arm thing is good to do, I do that alot at work also. I stretch almost everything before any workout, definitely need to get a lacrosse ball for my rear end but I foam roll my rear end and hams pretty much every day. Jeff of Athlean-x says you shouldn't foam roll your lower back, but as long as you're keeping yourself stable and not jerking around like a tard I think it's safe.. I do it every single night before I lift unless my spinal erectors are feeling good. I even hold it at the lowest part of my back and use it to pop that last lumbar vertebrae, which I can do standing. But, if my spinal erectors are roasted, I foam roll it a bit and just use that to pop it.

I will say that I have hurt my lower back foam rolling it before, but I learned from that and luckily I'm not made of glass so all is well. You just have to control your core, and keep thoracic extension, and really just do it enough to know when too much is too much. Practice makes perfect and all that. Foam roll the poo poo out of everything everyday.

Constipated
Nov 25, 2009

Gotta make that money man its still the same now
I bought some Hemavol for the first time in well over a year, had a scoop and a half and the results were underwhelming :flaccid:

Going to use 2 scoops next time, I also took my usual ephedrine/caffeine combo. I swear I used to get insane pumps off that stuff, did they neuter the formula???

teen phone cutie
Jun 18, 2012

last year i rewrote something awful from scratch because i hate myself
Just tied to max out my squat today at 300 and failed HARD holy poo poo. :cripes:

Who knew the difference between 275 and 300 was that big?

Fartbox
Apr 27, 2017
What's happening? Dri fu an only two? what is this?
Is this an avatar? I don't know rm dunk

Rodenthar Drothman posted:

Okay apparently 2 weeks no lifting + 1 week no deadlifting wasn't sufficient.

My back hurt brushing my teeth and walking out of the shower.

I'm getting...

old.

It was only 315 :qq:

If you got a legit back injury we're talking a long recovery time mate. If you got disc problems and stuff it could be bad. Probably go to a doctor if it persists so they can figure it out

The back is stronk but once it gets injured stuff gets complicated

Chief McHeath
Apr 23, 2002

Grump posted:

Just tied to max out my squat today at 300 and failed HARD holy poo poo. :cripes:

Who knew the difference between 275 and 300 was that big?

Well it's almost ten percent. Seems pretty big.

Rodenthar Drothman
May 14, 2013

I think I will continue
watching this twilight world
as long as time flows.
I do stretch a lot, and i foam roll whenever i go to the gym (i should really buy one). (And i do pop my back with the roller, i let it roll up my lower back while I'm rolling my rear end once or twice)
But i literally can't stretch right now sitting up on the floor hurts. I was able to stretch right a little, but not left. I think i might have to drive the mile in to my office. poo poo's bad, yo.

Fartbox posted:

If you got a legit back injury we're talking a long recovery time mate. If you got disc problems and stuff it could be bad. Probably go to a doctor if it persists so they can figure it out

The back is stronk but once it gets injured stuff gets complicated

Yeah, if it lasts as long as it did last time I'm gonna head to the doctor.

E_P
Feb 22, 2003

I had a back injury and I could only get out of bed by rolling off and kind of backing away from the bed. I went to the doc and got some muscle relaxers. Took a week off and I was already back to deadlifting the next week.

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nooneofconsequence
Oct 30, 2012

she had tiny Italian boobs.
Well that's my story.

Y'all make me scared to deadlift heavier.

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