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ThndrShk2k posted:Technically, according to D&D Alignment structure, it is not wrong. Only bad DMs allow this Paladins are good guys. That's the point of the Good alignment, if your church says "kill all these heathens" and they're not literal demons from literal hell the paladin's conflict then becomes between his conscience and his duty, and the archetype demands the realization that his duty is to his conscience I did always wonder what a schizophrenic who grew up with D&D books would look like, though, Good to finally know Grondoth has issued a correction as of 19:44 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Inescapable Duck posted:Can someone give me the lowdown on Huma? I think I missed that political saga. Huma is Gary Walsh from Veep if he was born a woman.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:44
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alignment is dumb and paladins can do whatever they want. they're zealots
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Sep 25, 2017 19:46
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are there people who insert Actual Jesus Christ into dnd like their paladins say the lords prayer or something
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Sep 25, 2017 19:47
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Al! posted:are there people who insert Actual Jesus Christ into dnd like their paladins say the lords prayer or something I think most of those people think D&D is actual satanist occultism or something
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Sep 25, 2017 19:50
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loquacius posted:They're already doing this, to some extent anyway. My wife uses the public library to borrow Kindle ebooks all the time. Many of them also have integrated access to Project Gutenberg for free public domain ebooks, but if not you can alway use the wifi to manually get them from their website https://www.gutenberg.org/
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Sep 25, 2017 19:55
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Al! posted:are there people who insert Actual Jesus Christ into dnd like their paladins say the lords prayer or something Lol if you don't play your paladin as a mormon
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gradenko_2000 posted:this Zach Carter guy dumps a lot of info about US interventionism. Here's his new piece on post-Soviet Russia and Yeltsin What is the good book on this? I am interested in post-Soviet Russia going batshit insane on neoliberalism because of how it comes back to bite America in the rear end.
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ThndrShk2k posted:Yeah libraries are swank if funded. Incidentally Project Gutenberg is a good example of why current copyright protections are way way too strong.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:58
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Grondoth posted:Only bad DMs allow this Yes but... have you met most DMs? Also lol the whole D&D alignment thing is just extra clutter to try and hide its base assertion that ideologically liberals=evil republicans=good
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Sep 25, 2017 20:05
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docbeard posted:I'm not sure what Huma herself has done that's so bad, other than marrying poorly, I guess. *snaps fingers*
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Sep 25, 2017 20:08
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Grondoth posted:Only bad DMs allow this Paladins are not always just 'good' guys, they often can be zealots and a firm structure of belief, and such uncompromising belief can lead to lawfully good actions that another good agent of a different disposition may not see as good. The problem here is good is subjective, much as to a character's conscience, and usually presented in relation to the world narrative
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Sep 25, 2017 20:09
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Reverend Dr posted:Yes but... have you met most DMs? Republicans and Liberals are the Lawful-Chaotic axis, and Socialists & Capitalists are the Good-Evil axis.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:11
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ThndrShk2k posted:The problem here is good is subjective, much as to a character's conscience, and usually presented in relation to the world narrative "If good does not exist, then how can we even have a discussion about good?" -centrist neutral
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Sep 25, 2017 20:15
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alignment was an easy way to paint the "savage" races as evil and therefore totally cool to butcher without thought or consequence.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:17
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Reverend Dr posted:"If good does not exist, then how can we even have a discussion about good?" all of my true neutral characters have ended up as free market imperialists so this checks out
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Sep 25, 2017 20:17
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Serf posted:alignment was an easy way to paint the "savage" races as evil and therefore totally cool to butcher without thought or consequence. unironically
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Sep 25, 2017 20:29
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ThndrShk2k posted:Green Lives Matter this but unironically
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Also here's an image to make fun of that chart that I forgot to post while arguing about why video game alignment systems are gonna be terrible forever:  
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Sep 25, 2017 20:33
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Grondoth posted:Only bad DMs allow this
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Sep 25, 2017 20:34
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ThndrShk2k posted:Also here's an image to make fun of that chart that I forgot to post while arguing about why video game alignment systems are gonna be terrible forever: lmao antifa as chaotic evil. revealing
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Sep 25, 2017 20:35
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Grondoth posted:Only bad DMs allow this wrong. the heathens must convert or die. I'm playing a literal campaign on that right now, mopping up the one area that escaped the historical Imposition of the Faith DM has given us a ton of clues that we are 100% in the wrong to do this as well which owns even more . my guys main contribution is spreading bloody pox among said heathens booya going all in on d&d alignment/religion stuff like this is the best
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mastershakeman posted:wrong. the heathens must convert or die. I'm playing a literal campaign on that right now, mopping up the one area that escaped the historical Imposition of the Faith utterly unsurprising that a maga chud would play in this campaign
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Serf posted:utterly unsurprising that a maga chud would play in this campaign I'm actually playing a character damned to hell no matter what he does too, it's cool (unless I buy an indulgence before I die, which the church will happily sell me for an exorbitant price) wootles it's too bad the literal Catholic priest in our friend group had to quit playing when he moved to another parish
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mastershakeman posted:I'm actually playing a character damned to hell no matter what he does too, it's cool (unless I buy an indulgence before I die, which the church will happily sell me for an exorbitant price) yep, yep, checks out. sounds like your kind of scene
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everyone would be much happier if they played role-playing games as an escape from real life . it should be mandatory after the equally mandatory church service on Sundays
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Sep 25, 2017 20:48
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yeah, that's why in my rpgs we smash capitalism
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Reverend Dr posted:Yes but... have you met most DMs? It's a bit weird because in essence it's saying everything else is bad. The first image is more nuanced but still roughly the same system. I haven't even begun to decipher the 4th image lol In general storytelling usage an alignment system is just something to calibrate world narrative.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:52
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Serf posted:yeah, that's why in my rpgs we smash capitalism I hope the player characters get to be comintern and then have a few sessions of killing each other off
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Sep 25, 2017 20:53
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I'm gonna create an rpg playing game where I go online and dunk on dumb internet nerds who post about rpg playing games. I write meta remarks about how everyone is a nerd but me and then rpg playing games nerds cry and cry.
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docbeard posted:I'm not sure what Huma herself has done that's so bad, other than marrying poorly, I guess. 2016 much?
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Frijolero posted:I'm gonna create an rpg playing game where I go online and dunk on dumb internet nerds who post about rpg playing games. I write meta remarks about how everyone is a nerd but me and then rpg playing games nerds cry and cry. I absolutely guarantee you that this game already exists somewhere.
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ThndrShk2k posted:The charts posted earlier are saying Chaotic Good is the best good. alignment remains one of the dumber things in rpgs, and i'm glad most modern games ditch it for better mechanics or just no mechanic at all. even in middle school i was like "this poo poo is dumb as hell"
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Jazerus posted:paladins are fascists yes, all lawful <x> are to some degree more like chaotic 
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Serf posted:alignment remains one of the dumber things in rpgs, and i'm glad most modern games ditch it for better mechanics or just no mechanic at all. even in middle school i was like "this poo poo is dumb as hell" The sole purpose of alignment appears to be to start arguments about alignment.
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docbeard posted:The sole purpose of alignment appears to be to start arguments about alignment. yeah, at this point they should just ditch it. poo poo never made any sense
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Serf posted:yeah, at this point they should just ditch it. poo poo never made any sense as opposed to the rest of d&d
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:as opposed to the rest of d&d All of D&D makes perfect sense and is completely internally consistent and I am definitely not lying about this.
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mrbradlymrmartin posted:as opposed to the rest of d&d i mean it holds together pretty well as a game. i ran 4e for years and never had any issues
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