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If 3/4 of your quickmatches are toxic I'm willing to bet good money you yourself aren't nearly as chill or diplomatic as you think you are.
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If Blizz wanted people who aren't trying to dogshit their way through games for lootboxes to play something other than QM, they really need to incentivize UD, HL, and TL better.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:17
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I'd put the QM toxicity at maybe 20-30% of games. Much lower than any other MOBA, regardless. I can't recall seeing anyone intentionally feeding there, ever. Hero League, on the other hand, by all accounts is a dumpster fire. With that said, playing AI's fine - completely stomping the AI is a blast; though with the XP curve changes from 2.0 it's become a lot more of a grind, especially without stimpacks. MisterZimbu fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Sep 25, 2017 |
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Sep 25, 2017 15:19
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The issue imo is that most people don't want to play support and even fewer want to play tank. I'd rather play an assassin in a 5v5 specialist/assassin game than a tank in a balanced 5v5.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:22
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MisterZimbu posted:I'd put the QM toxicity at maybe 20-30% of games. Much lower than any other MOBA, regardless. I can't recall seeing anyone intentionally feeding there, ever. This post is all kinds of correct.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:23
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MisterZimbu posted:I'd put the QM toxicity at maybe 20-30% of games. Much lower than any other MOBA, regardless. I can't recall seeing anyone intentionally feeding there, ever. Define the threshold for "intentionally feeding". Is it: (A) Walking into tower over and over. or (B) Constantly diving enemy teams when down people/levels and then whining when everyone else doesn't do exactly the same. Because, for me, B sure happens a lot and counts.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:26
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Toshimo posted:(B) Constantly diving enemy teams when down people/levels and then whining when everyone else doesn't do exactly the same. If they were intentionally feeding why would they complain about the lack of backup?
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Sep 25, 2017 15:28
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B isn't intentionally feeding or being toxic (until they start yelling at the rest of the team), it's just being bad at the game. But yeah, it happens all the time in QM. And AI, Unranked, and Ranked.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:33
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Goddamn Diablo is such a good hero. I went Devil's Due and it basically makes you immortal. Just drink some welljuice and head on in, because you're slowly healing your entire healthbar.
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Sep 25, 2017 15:38
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Fuzz posted:and a stupid Tyrande who thought Shadowstalk would be a smart move. It is, 95% of the time. I'd still take it even vs. a Tassadar, especially since Zera + Tyrande can 100-0 anyone and still get away. All Tyrande has to do is drop a mark + stun, then use the shadow stalk movespeed to GTFO while Zeratul blows person up. I don't know the rest of the teams but that's not why you won imo.
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Sep 25, 2017 16:05
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Toshimo posted:If Blizz wanted people who aren't trying to dogshit their way through games for lootboxes to play something other than QM, they really need to incentivize UD, HL, and TL better. TL's not that bad if you're playing with people you'd hang out with outside of game, and it has a significant XP bonus to boot. (Plus you get the season's mount just for showing up and doing 10 placements  )
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Kyrosiris posted:TL's not that bad if you're playing with people you'd hang out with outside of game, and it has a significant XP bonus to boot. QM is way better than TL for xp/hr even with 5 friends. The horrible TL queues and the fact that only QM has a bonus for wins because :blizzdowns: means that QM is the place to be for MAXIMUM LEWTZ which is why everyone plays it which is why TL has poo poo queues which is why everyone plays QM... ad infinitum. Dear Blizz, pls implement the win bonus in non-QM modes. Sincerely, loving EVERYONE.
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Sep 25, 2017 16:19
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Heres a tip Pinging an ally once -> "Come help me do a thing"/"This person may be afk?" Pinging an ally multiple times -> I am a manchild with no control over my emotions
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Sep 25, 2017 16:19
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BrianBoitano posted:*as long as they don't have stuns, silences, or displacement abilities Perhaps, but it's negated entirely by the fact that you're playing as D.va
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Sep 25, 2017 16:56
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Ya know I'm sitting here eating lunch wondering why HOTS doesn't have a "make me team captain" button like WoW has for dungeons. Too many retards have 0 game knowledge and it would let the good players establish dominance early and prevent things like letting the other team getting garrosh. It would also let the weaker players opt out of taking the job from the hardworking good players. I'd also like a feature like dota's single draft where someone can suggest 3 heroes and another gets to pick them just like brawl.
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Sep 25, 2017 17:19
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Is toxicity like people flaming and such? I just don't speak to anyone myself, and the moment someone else does they go on mute so this is never a problem.
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Sep 25, 2017 17:50
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Jimbo please
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tcjimbo posted:why HOTS doesn't have a "make me team captain" button like WoW has for dungeons. If you think the guide flag means practically anything to anyone you're dumber than you usually look. Also hot tip, you're very likely the shitter causing your team breakdowns.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:06
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tcjimbo posted:Ya know I'm sitting here eating lunch wondering why HOTS doesn't have a "make me team captain" button like WoW has for dungeons. Too many retards have 0 game knowledge and it would let the good players establish dominance early and prevent things like letting the other team getting garrosh. It would also let the weaker players opt out of taking the job from the hardworking good players. 
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Sep 25, 2017 19:22
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But... tcjimbo, you're not a good player?
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Sep 25, 2017 19:24
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Hey quick question if team A is level 9 and team B is level 10 and a lane is empty am I wrong in thinking that someone from team A should be soakin the hell out of that empty lane assuming there's no objective up or teamfight going on? Like I think this is the right thing to do but some pub valla screamed at me for doing it and now having read the last page of posts I feel like that pub valla was actually tcjimbo in disguise
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Sep 25, 2017 19:34
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Kazinsal posted:Hey quick question if team A is level 9 and team B is level 10 and a lane is empty am I wrong in thinking that someone from team A should be soakin the hell out of that empty lane assuming there's no objective up or teamfight going on? Yeah, basically if you try to contest the objective the enemy team will beat you on the teamfight + win the objective instead of just winning the objective while you pick up your heroics. The former is usually something you can't recover from unless the other team decides to throw as hard as possible.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:50
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Kazinsal posted:Hey quick question if team A is level 9 and team B is level 10 and a lane is empty am I wrong in thinking that someone from team A should be soakin the hell out of that empty lane assuming there's no objective up or teamfight going on? Nope, you're right.
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Sep 25, 2017 19:56
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In general people seem to be allergic to soaking lanes.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:12
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John Murdoch posted:In general people seem to be bad
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John Murdoch posted:In general
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Sep 25, 2017 20:18
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Is "General" what we call Goon chat now?
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It's funny how Bad Player Problem #1 is "people ignore objectives" and Bad Player Problem #2 is "people contest objectives at the worst possible time". Had two games last night, the first one was a loss that had people rushing to objectives despite being down 12-16. The other one we won as we kept the enemy occupied at the Tribute while minions destroyed their core. The tribute score was 0-0.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:29
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Haunted Mines triggers something in peoples' brains to contest the final golem no matter what. You can win 90% of haunted mines games by just getting all the small skulls, soaking lanes, and delaying the enemy team at the big golem during the first spawn while you get a three level advantage 6 minutes into the game. Suddenly, all the bad people realize that you "have to get golem" and everyone needs to leave lanes NOW!
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Sep 25, 2017 20:42
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People get absurd objective-blindness sometimes. What I've noticed is people have no awareness of when to back off an objective. A 5v5 will turn into a 3v5 and still those 3 people will keep sticking their noses in until there's nobody left and now the other team not only has the objective but is up 2 levels on us. Jesus christ, guys, we can afford to lose a tribute. It isn't the end of the world.
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Sep 25, 2017 20:45
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People love to snowball losing games by contesting objectives while 4v5, no ults vs ults, etc. It's a really good way to make sure you lose the game. Most early game objectives are weaker in terms of siege damage than your team standing in the lanes for 1:00 wailing on the enemy structures uncontested so you can actually come out ahead if you don't all feed into their advantage and hand them 5 kills for dessert on top of the objective. Late game objectives are more important and it might sometimes be correct to take the risk of fighting while disadvantaged, but the first tribute/punisher/spiders whatever of the game is really not that impactful.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:Haunted Mines triggers something in peoples' brains to contest the final golem no matter what. This is literally how you win Mines about 80% of the time. Or in ranked both teams realize this and no one hits the golem, then after a random team fight the winning side blitzes the golden to finally finish the objective and add pressure.
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Most aggravating Haunted Mines QM game recently: Kerrigan (me) Valeera Kel Thuzad Tychus Murky vs Sylvanas Azmodan Nazeebo Samuro Cassia I didn't even pay attention to the enemy comp until we lost a fort 1:30 into the game. Somehow we ended up winning the 30 minute game thanks to our Valeera getting 25 kills and our Murky 100-0ing every objective after level 20. But holy crap classic Haunted Mines issues.
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Had a haunted mines match last night where we didn't get the big golem at all, both teams cleared up the small skulls then we proceeded to never go down there until one of the cores died A Good Map, lol
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PantsBandit posted:People get absurd objective-blindness sometimes. What I've noticed is people have no awareness of when to back off an objective. A 5v5 will turn into a 3v5 and still those 3 people will keep sticking their noses in until there's nobody left and now the other team not only has the objective but is up 2 levels on us. No, you see, with one of our guys dead it's a brilliant time to fight 2v5 and blame the 2 people who didn't want to suicide.
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McTimmy posted:No, you see, with one of our guys dead it's a brilliant time to fight 2v5 and blame the 2 people who didn't want to suicide. WHY DIDNT YOU HEAL ME
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Sep 25, 2017 22:01
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Toshimo posted:QM is way better than TL for xp/hr even with 5 friends. Have you done the math? 75% bonus exp over QM. Are queues for you lasting >10 minutes (And 5 minutes for draft) consistently? That's only ever the case in TL for me if I'm playing from 4 AM - 10 AM EST, or if my team is all GM/M with no bronzes to even them out. Takes another 5 minutes max (usually 1-2) for me to form a 5-person group on Discord. Queues are even shorter for 3-man. Don't 2-man.
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BrianBoitano posted:Have you done the math? 75% bonus exp over QM. Are queues for you lasting >10 minutes (And 5 minutes for draft) consistently? https://www.reddit.com/r/heroesofthestorm/comments/6cw246/comparing_xphour_values/
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Sep 25, 2017 23:06
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But then you're playing QM so why even bother playing if you're not going to have fun?
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Welp immediately ranked down to Silver 4 due to people picking zero assassin's and a lucio flaming over people not "playing the meta". Is having any wave clear like, bad on spider queen? I thought it was good to have at least 1 assassin + people that can kill the spiders quick?
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