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LogisticEarth posted:I got that, and it was funny at first, but it's a one-note joke, that I don't think could keep me interested for eight episodes. Maybe I'll go back and watch the first episode and see if it does anything for me. I don't even know if one-note is a valid criticism, is Spinal Tap one-note because it's essentially "what if a band, but stupid?" I don't think it's spoiling much to say that American Vandal is about the justice system and the presumption of guilt more than just who did the dicks. Obviously the dicks is a big part of that, but the dicks aren't what it is about in the end. American Vandal is four hours of good satire with an actual point (like good satire should have) and it's worth watching if you're someone who likes true crime documentaries, in m opinion.
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ONE YEAR LATER posted:I don't even know if one-note is a valid criticism, is Spinal Tap one-note because it's essentially "what if a band, but stupid?" I don't think it's spoiling much to say that American Vandal is about the justice system and the presumption of guilt more than just who did the dicks. Obviously the dicks is a big part of that, but the dicks aren't what it is about in the end. I mean, Spinal Tap is a bit of an unfair comparison because it's roughly half the length of American Vandal.
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The back half doesn't really work as satire because, if anything, it's less critical than the original works themselves. It doesn't really say much about the genre that Serial didn't already spend four navel-gazing hours on — and it basically follows that as a template without comment. It's a pretty close cousin to Documentary Now!, which also spends a lot of time nailing style and sometimes forgets to have a point or send things up, but that show at least keeps things fresh each episode.
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Ohvee posted:He's saying that it's similar to recommending two other movies without giving away the ending/key detail like, for "Sixth Sense" and "The Village," respectively. Ohhhhh. I didn't put that together because I guess I never really thought of The Blackcoat's Daughter as a gotcha! movie. In those above two movies, nothing in the movies themselves tells you to look out for the big reveal until it happens. In The Blackcoat's Daughter the director is stingy enough with the details that for a large portion of the movie you know you don't have the full picture and are waiting to see how it comes together.
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American Vandal was pretty funny, but it could have accomplished what it set out to do in well under 2 hours.
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I was pretty impressed by the new Lady Gaga documentary. I mean, I figure it's the kind of thing that you either might be into or are definitely not interested in at all, but I'd recommend it to people who like her.
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morestuff posted:The back half doesn't really work as satire because, if anything, it's less critical than the original works themselves. It doesn't really say much about the genre that Serial didn't already spend four navel-gazing hours on — and it basically follows that as a template without comment. It's a pretty close cousin to Documentary Now!, which also spends a lot of time nailing style and sometimes forgets to have a point or send things up, but that show at least keeps things fresh each episode. The Nanook of the North episode of Documentary Now! is loving hilarious.
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Sep 26, 2017 03:32
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That episode is great, but I think Al Capone Day is the funniest.
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I love the Nanook one because it drags them out of their comfort zone a bit and doesn't rely on style parody at all aside from the "archive footage" of Not Nanook. It's wall-to-wall unsubtle jokes, and they're all loving hilarious.
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That one and the Vice one are the best. The Vice one is still my favorite because it perfectly lampoons what was lingering in the back of my head for years about them, yet was never able to articulate.
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Documentary Now! is the best TV comedy of the decade
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it seems like i have to watch the original before the parody though. same problem with how did this get made
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A MIRACLE posted:it seems like i have to watch the original before the parody though. same problem with how did this get made
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Sep 26, 2017 07:12
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Did they ever do a Grizzly man episode?
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For anyone with Prime, I don't know when they added it but Lost City of Z is up on there and that's a really good one. It's slow but in a very engaging way, and it does the impossible by making Charlie Hunnam a good actor. Great performances from just about everyone in it. It's long and definitely feels its length, but I think it's worth the trip.
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Seconding lost city of Z. I think it's 3 hours long but it was a good movie. Don't expect any jump-scares or tons of exciting fight scenes outside of one fight iirc. Very nice to see Charlie Hunnam outside of his normal roles, it would be a shame to have him become Typecast. There is one real bastard you will love to hate though!
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In my opinion American Vandal is pretty light on the laughs and surprisingly heavy on the teen drama which is unfortunate. Good acting though, I love the "cool" teacher and Dylan. Just don't expect it to make you laugh more than once per episode.
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GonSmithe posted:For anyone with Prime, I don't know when they added it but Lost City of Z is up on there and that's a really good one. It's slow but in a very engaging way, and it does the impossible by making Charlie Hunnam a good actor. Great performances from just about everyone in it. It's long and definitely feels its length, but I think it's worth the trip. The performances were great, but the movie never made me a believer in his obsession. I think I found the movie dull overall (pacing and running time didn't help) and too by the numbers. Not a bad movie, but I'm thankful I didn't pay for it outright. Shame, because I agree with some of the things you are saying. It's close but no cigar for me.
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nate fisher posted:The performances were great, but the movie never made me a believer in his obsession. I think I found the movie dull overall (pacing and running time didn't help) and too by the numbers. Not a bad movie, but I'm thankful I didn't pay for it outright. Shame, because I agree with some of the things you are saying. It's close but no cigar for me. I think where it tripped itself up was in his motivation to go back to the Amazon after barely surviving the first trip. They're basically starving to death, but then he finds some pottery shards and a little statue thing in the mud and that alone sparks his curiosity so much that he just HAS to go back no matter what the cost.
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Rough Lobster posted:In my opinion American Vandal is pretty light on the laughs and surprisingly heavy on the teen drama which is unfortunate. If they had just stuck with the comedy parody side of it, it would have been great. But the last few episodes just DRAG because suddenly it's got a serious tone and acting like it's an actual documentary. It's at it's best with some of the subtlety. Like, I wish they had just shown the teacher that was fired briefly with "ex-teacher" as his description. I laughed so hard at that. But they had to go into more detail.
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david_a posted:Yeah, I haven't watched nearly enough documentaries to feel like I get all the jokes. I think I only watched the Vice and Gray Gardens spoofs. Definitely. It seems like it's almost required that you've seen the original source material, really. I hadn't seen The Thin Blue Line before I watched their spoof of it, and after having watched it (and then re-watched the spoof), it was hilarious. Is the show coming back next season?
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GonSmithe posted:it does the impossible by making Charlie Hunnam a good actor. Whoa. Now this I gotta see
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knows a black guy posted:Whoa. Now this I gotta see https://i.imgur.com/9JIJJ.gif
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I think I would've liked the Bad Batch on some level if the last scene was them eating the heroine instead of the bunny.
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I liked Lost City of Z a lot more before I did some fact-checking and found out it was probably mostly bullshit.
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graventy posted:I liked Lost City of Z a lot more before I did some fact-checking and found out it was probably mostly bullshit. Think of it as a nod to Herzog, who never missed an opportunity to change history if it served the film.
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River's Edge is on Amazon, which I'd never heard of. Keanu Reeves gets second billing to Crispin Glover, who waffles between amazing and terrible every scene. It's shot by one the go-to directors on the original Twin Peaks and has a similar vibe even if it doesn't go full Lynch.
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OH gently caress YES I've been wanting to rewatch River's Edge for a long time. It's fantastic
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Donald Cried is pre' dope and y'all should check it out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCIn6eYUwK0
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graventy posted:I liked Lost City of Z a lot more before I did some fact-checking and found out it was probably mostly bullshit. Movies not.... real???
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[quote="“morestuff”" post="“476802364”"] River’s Edge is on Amazon, which I’d never heard of. Keanu Reeves gets second billing to Crispin Glover, who waffles between amazing and terrible every scene. It’s shot by one the go-to directors on the original Twin Peaks and has a similar vibe even if it doesn’t go full Lynch. [/quote] I remember watching River's Edge on VHS back in the late 80's. It was such a blast.
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Toast of London is on Netflix now. It's absolute ridiculous and fantastic.
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Unmature posted:Toast of London is on Netflix now. It's absolute ridiculous and fantastic. does it have a laugh track? i hate those!
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eriddy posted:does it have a laugh track? i hate those! Nope.
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morestuff posted:River's Edge is on Amazon, which I'd never heard of. Keanu Reeves gets second billing to Crispin Glover, who waffles between amazing and terrible every scene. It's shot by one the go-to directors on the original Twin Peaks and has a similar vibe even if it doesn't go full Lynch. I think it's buried in the Hulu interface as well.
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River's Edge is pretty great, but something about Joshua Miller weirds me out in everything I see him in.
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Enos Cabell posted:River's Edge is pretty great, but something about Joshua Miller weirds me out in everything I see him in. Same here, and it is all because of River's Edge. I hated his character so much, that when I watched Near Dark a year later all I could see was his character from River's Edge. poo poo just saw his half-brother is Jason Patric (their dad was priest in the Exorcist).
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River's Edge is kind of weird in that it's this (really good) subdued drama film, and somehow that got Hunter the RoboCop 2 job. As I recall, he walked off the project when everyone took a look at the Corporate Wars script that Miner and Neumeier wrote and realized it was utter dogshit and he refused to make the movie on a rushed timeline that would be necessitated by a new script. Not that what Frank Miller and eventually Walon Green came up with was much better, but "Tim Hunter does RoboCop" is one of those great might-have-beens up there with "Phil Kaufman does Star Trek, with Mifune as the Klingon heavy." Timby fucked around with this message at 16:47 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Is that the movie where keanu reeves says "you just sit around and gently caress my mom and eat pancakes" ?
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Enos Cabell posted:River's Edge is pretty great, but something about Joshua Miller weirds me out in everything I see him in. See also: Teen Witch
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