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Why is it called the Triglav Protector when it doesn't have three heads?
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Sep 26, 2017 18:54
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Toshimo posted:The whining thread is where you go to air out your feelings about being a shitters. This thread is where we try to help you not be a shitter. Consider where you post next time. Maybe you should post in the whining thread about how people are posting in the wrong thread
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Sep 26, 2017 18:56
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Polio Vax Scene posted:Maybe you should post in the whining thread about how people are posting in the wrong thread No, that's for the meta thread.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:05
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SKULL.GIF posted:Kel'Thuzad has like 800x the depth Garrosh does and way better and more robustly designed talents. Ana's talents are similarly great, with lots of utility and options packed into every tier. What the gently caress happened with Garrosh? Anyway, I hope they take the Ana/Kel'Thuzad talent design philosophy and eventually (lol) rework the other heroes who need it.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:07
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Ana base skin recolors are also really, really good. A+ hero release all around.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:09
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SKULL.GIF posted:Ana's talents are similarly great, with lots of utility and options packed into every tier. What the gently caress happened with Garrosh? Power Bottom posted:It's much easier to work with a character who has a large repertoire of spells to choose from than it is to work with a character whose defining traits are "meathead" and "rear end in a top hat". find = "spells"; replace = "equipment"
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Sep 26, 2017 19:18
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Zhulik posted:Why is it called the Triglav Protector when it doesn't have three heads? Just lol if you're not putting Cho'Gall in there
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Sep 26, 2017 19:26
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Zotix posted:I'm so glad that this game has a PTR where no changes happen when the game goes to live. And then after you buy a hero, they change it 2 weeks later. I seriously wish I could loving charge back 2 years of purchases for this stupid loving game. Libertine posted:here's the patch notes: Patch notes posted:Note: * Orange Text and an Asterisk indicate a change or addition between PTR and live patch notes. 
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Sep 26, 2017 19:30
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I wish Medivh didnt have such a high skill cap because he is so good, everything i want in a hero: simple, effective kit with decent depth for situational stuff. His level 20 talents are all really good except maybe polymorph against a self aware team.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:41
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I mean if you play him enough you'll end up with a 50% win rate. I ran into a Medivh at my trash MMR who had a 55% winrate over a hundred games or so and it's not like he was a god or anything. He probably could have done even better with other heroes but whatever he liked the prophet.
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Sep 26, 2017 19:45
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Garrosh is fine just make all his talents into throw
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Sep 26, 2017 19:45
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Power Bottom posted:find = "spells"; replace = "equipment" I don't buy that line of thinking at all. They were able to take someone like Stukov's who's mostly a passive bystander with a hulk arm and give him a robust, deep kit. A big part of Garrosh's problem is mostly Bloodthirst being a bad, unsatisfying ability with very underwhelming talents. Some outside-the-box thinking could have helped here, instead we get "Bloodthirst creeps" "Bloodthirst more often" "Bloodthirst heals more". Why not a talent that heals you for a portion of the damage dealt by the victim over the next X seconds? A talent that removes the Bloodthirst heal when used at high health, but reduces the cooldown and hits harder? And so on.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:05
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It's weird too because Garrosh has an entirely separate active ability that you can pick up by talenting into it, which itself has upgrades you can talent into. It's not like they ran out of ideas for stuff to give him.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:11
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Garrosh's problem is that he's boring outside of his throw combo which he can only perform every like 12 seconds, and both the auto-targeting on the throw and the hitbox on the pull can be very frustrating. His ults are both pretty boring, his other skill is pretty boring, his optional active skill is pretty boring. He's boring.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:14
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One of Garrosh's big problems is that he's supposed to represent his WoW and Hearthstone incarnations, and so the Hearthstone representation limits him from doing anything really interesting (for example, getting hopped up on Sha and contracting Stage Niggurath Cancer). The other problem is that Blizzard is not really that good at making cool and interesting tanks because if they become too cool or interesting, they start doing multiple jobs at once and that's usually pretty bad for the meta.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:19
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I think Garrosh is really popular and a lot of people like playing as him a lot. He's the most popular tank in QM even though he sucks there. I mean he's also newish I guess but toss and friendly toss are crazy abilities.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:23
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Power Bottom posted:One of Garrosh's big problems is that he's supposed to represent his WoW and Hearthstone incarnations, and so the Hearthstone representation limits him from doing anything really interesting (for example, getting hopped up on Sha and contracting Stage Niggurath Cancer). In that vein, can we please get a better Muradin Ult? A glorified health boost and "punching a guy extra hard" are not that fun. Especially the health boost, they could give him extra resistances and attack and stuff, like he has in WC3, or like Tass does now.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:29
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Huh. Conveniently enough, my favorite Ana build seems to be easiest to remember: all the middle talents. Piercing Darts Sleep + Nade give shrike stacks Shrike stacks lower spell power Whichever (Nanaboost seems more fun) Whichever Shrike stacks empower healing dart Shrike stacks sleep enemies (okay, Nana infusion is better, but cmon)
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Sep 26, 2017 20:31
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von Metternich posted:In that vein, can we please get a better Muradin Ult? A glorified health boost and "punching a guy extra hard" are not that fun. Especially the health boost, they could give him extra resistances and attack and stuff, like he has in WC3, or like Tass does now. Punching a guy extra hard is flipping amazing what are you talking about?
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Sep 26, 2017 20:49
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The best part of Haymaker is the bowling pins sound effect it makes.
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Sep 26, 2017 20:56
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Bear Varian riding a war bear has the bear model clip his legs and it makes me SO SAD
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Sep 26, 2017 20:59
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It also makes me sad that the only way to get him sans shards is to buy the ana bundle. And that they didn't get his voice actor back to do a bunch of schlocky russian lines. Dude's got a loving lightsaber and an Ushanka on, why's he still screaming about stormwind?
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Sep 26, 2017 21:10
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von Metternich posted:In that vein, can we please get a better Muradin Ult? A glorified health boost and "punching a guy extra hard" are not that fun. Especially the health boost, they could give him extra resistances and attack and stuff, like he has in WC3, or like Tass does now. Power Bottom posted:The other problem is that Blizzard is not really that good at making cool and interesting tanks because if they become too cool or interesting, they start doing multiple jobs at once and that's usually pretty bad for the meta. Also you have supremely bad taste if you dislike Haymaker
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Sep 26, 2017 21:11
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Dietrich posted:Garrosh's problem is that he's boring outside of his throw combo which he can only perform every like 12 seconds, and both the auto-targeting on the throw and the hitbox on the pull can be very frustrating. His ults are both pretty boring, his other skill is pretty boring, his optional active skill is pretty boring. He's boring. Winning isn't boring, therefore Garrosh isn't boring. Real answer: he has 3 mini-games - positioning to combo (or just enemy throw), positioning to ally throw (engage or disengage/cleanse), and resetting your W on low-health targets. You can also use ally throw on a minion to demount + slow someone, walk up, and combo them, which is basically the opposite of boring. quote:His ults are both pretty boring Ehh I guess. He's a tank and he does tank ults pretty well. Old God Juice and Iron Star would be cool, but w/e.
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Sep 26, 2017 21:14
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But what is the point of body check and why does it exist? And then like 4 more talents supporting it.
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Sep 26, 2017 21:38
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No idea. Literally never tried it, but at least those talents are mostly (entirely?) on 4 talent tiers so not on their own contributing to "boring" imo What's the best Kael spray?
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Sep 26, 2017 21:56
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BrianBoitano posted:What's the best Kael spray?  Except on everyone.
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Sep 26, 2017 22:20
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Anas numbers seem...eh low. Considering how often your team will juke your own heals
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Sep 27, 2017 01:04
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banned from Starbucks posted:Anas numbers seem...eh low. Considering how often your team will juke your own heals and the fact that her self heal is nearly non-existant.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:22
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You're all loving nutcases, Garrosh is fun as gently caress to play, Bloodthirst is awesome, I've survived many a teamfight by the skin of my teeth with that ability and throwing over the gate loving kicks rear end. Throwing the enemy out of position kicks rear end, throwing your teammate and killing the enemy with your teammate's impact damage loving kicks rear end. Taunting idiots who think they can get the drop on me, or who try to use an ult or whatever kicks rear end. Garrosh kicks rear end. Sorry you all are terrible at one of the best characters ever added to the game.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:28
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Also, judging by how people behave when I boost them. Nano Boost doesn't actually buff them, it instead mind controls them and forces them to run away from combat and not use any abilities at all.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:42
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What's the best way to counter Garrosh? I feel like I end up getting owned by him all the time because he won't die and you can't get close or else you get nuked by the other team after the throw.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:43
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appropriatemetaphor posted:What's the best way to counter Garrosh? I feel like I end up getting owned by him all the time because he won't die and you can't get close or else you get nuked by the other team after the throw. Garrosh has loving GODAWFUL mobility. It's risky getting close to him, but if you can get HIM out of position, he's basically toast. Characters like Jaina or Nazeebo can be terrifying
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Sep 27, 2017 01:44
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Kurieg posted:Also, judging by how people behave when I boost them. Nano Boost doesn't actually buff them, it instead mind controls them and forces them to run away from combat and not use any abilities at all. Use it on your hard initiating warrior 
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Sep 27, 2017 01:48
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appropriatemetaphor posted:What's the best way to counter Garrosh? I feel like I end up getting owned by him all the time because he won't die and you can't get close or else you get nuked by the other team after the throw. Position better. He has low damage so he's not threatening unless he can throw you. His team shouldn't be able to get to you without being out of position themselves. Also, percent damage.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:52
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EdRush posted:Use it on your hard initiating warrior Yeah I had some dude rage on me when he boosted my Greymane like as I was walking over to clear a minion wave. It ran out by the time I got there too.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:53
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appropriatemetaphor posted:What's the best way to counter Garrosh? I feel like I end up getting owned by him all the time because he won't die and you can't get close or else you get nuked by the other team after the throw.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:59
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EdRush posted:Why is there no Young Ana skin. Does Blizzard hate money. Let the old lady be old for once Hell, make her cross-universe skin a Forsaken crossbow sniper, now she's EXTRA old
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Sep 27, 2017 02:06
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Kurieg posted:Also, judging by how people behave when I boost them. Nano Boost doesn't actually buff them, it instead mind controls them and forces them to run away from combat and not use any abilities at all. This has been my experience too. In one game I just decided nobody but Kerrigan is getting boosted at all (maybe the right decision anyway) because only when Kerrigan jumps in and ults can I be sure this won't happen.
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Sep 27, 2017 02:06
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Gobbeldygook posted:Play a hero that isn't owned if they're thrown like Anub. garthoneeye posted:Position better. He has low damage so he's not threatening unless he can throw you. His team shouldn't be able to get to you without being out of position themselves. the situation that usually happens is Garrosh just sorta walks into the team, and throws someone, then the team runs away. I don't know if it's the whole "don't focus the tank" thing where no one shoots the tank even though he's the only one in range or what.. It seems like everyone that has an escape uses it when Garrosh comes close, leaving people without them to get tossed because everyone that could bail bailed. better counter-picking is probably an issue, like having a % dmg person and some stun followup at least.
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