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I'm really pumped for Cadian rules, but I get the feeling they'll be saving them for last. I'm not sure what they might be, to be honest. Something to do with morale so they don't need Commissars? Better Conscripts as Whiteshields? No rules because the whole loving planet exploded?
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Sep 27, 2017 01:33
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BULBASAUR posted:+1 WS against stationary vehicles This will continue the trend of chapters I like getting poo poo rules. RIP Imperial fists.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:35
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It'd be neat to see Cadians have an option to take stormtroopers as kasrkin in their detachment and count them as part of the same regiment. Unless stormtroopers get a special rule for it, you won't be able to use them and normal guard in a detachment anymore and get your doctrine, which is unfortunate. I always loved having a squad of stormtroopers backing my guys up in 4th edition.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:36
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chutche2 posted:It'd be neat to see Cadians have an option to take stormtroopers as kasrkin in their detachment and count them as part of the same regiment. Unless stormtroopers get a special rule for it, you won't be able to use them and normal guard in a detachment anymore and get your doctrine, which is unfortunate. I always loved having a squad of stormtroopers backing my guys up in 4th edition. I kinda doubt they'll make you unable to take stormtrooper support, since that's like, the main idea of them. I do hope they do something to make putting them on the table instead of deep striking a useful choice.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:39
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BULBASAUR posted:How are the Death Korp rules? Well, they don’t take morale tests from losing models to shooting. At all. So yeah, not bad.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:40
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chutche2 posted:It'd be neat to see Cadians have an option to take stormtroopers as kasrkin in their detachment and count them as part of the same regiment. Unless stormtroopers get a special rule for it, you won't be able to use them and normal guard in a detachment anymore and get your doctrine, which is unfortunate. I always loved having a squad of stormtroopers backing my guys up in 4th edition. You can still take them as a secondary detachment, which could be as simple as a Command Squad + Prime patrol group.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:44
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Felime posted:I kinda doubt they'll make you unable to take stormtrooper support, since that's like, the main idea of them. I do hope they do something to make putting them on the table instead of deep striking a useful choice. I dunno. Stormtroopers have their own HQ, elites, troops, and transport. They're one of the 8 or so regiments named as getting their own doctrine and relic and such. It might be intended for you to field them as a patrol detachment alongside your main force. The Bee posted:You can still take them as a secondary detachment, which could be as simple as a Command Squad + Prime patrol group. Right but if you do that then they'll use all the Tempestus regiment abilities. I mean take them as true Keyword Cadian units.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:44
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They might just have access to Scions that can also take orders from Cadian Commanders. That would be sweet.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:51
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Yeah. Really I'm just annoyed at how strict they're being with the detachment stuff. Like Death Guard can't actually have the daemons in their codex in their detachment or else it's not a Death Guard detachment and they lose access to all their special rules. They have to summon them or field them in a separate detachment.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:56
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Felime posted:This will continue the trend of chapters I like getting poo poo rules. The amount of times I've gone to mention my opponents cover save, only for him to remind me, that my imperial fists ignore cover is... well more than twice.. Its far from irredeemable. Warlord trait and stratagem on the other hand. So niche they are essentially useless.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:59
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Bolter Drill should probably have 6s generate an extra hit rather than an extra shot. That'd make it a little better. A bunch of inceptors deep striked behind me and with bolter drill would've put my gravis captain in the ground if he didn't have the 2+ armor relic, so there's that. Got 3 or 4 extra hits on me from it. Also yeah I keep having to remind my Fists opponent that I don't get cover.
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Sep 27, 2017 02:01
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I don't mind it too badly. Battle forging is surprisingly easy and flexible to pull off, and otherwise special rules bloat for some factions would get ridiculous. Look at the crap Gulliman can pull in an all Imperium army, and imagine that extending to every minor Chaos warlord for your warband of three different Legions and demon support. Or imagine how minmaxed chapter tactics would be if you could only give them to the units who needed them. Suddenly every flamer would be a Salamander, ambush unit would be Raven Guard, and frontline skirmisher would be an Ultramarine. You can still make a fluffy army with support from other factions. It just takes a bit of HQ bloat and sacrifice to make up for the massive uptick in versatility.
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Safety Factor posted:https://victoriaminiatures.com/ Another option here- https://madrobotminiatures.com/ I used Victoria miniatures for my Mordian Rough Riders, but my vet squad is mad robot (I put them in carapace armor that matches their theme). *edit* Oops, didn't realize you were looking for lady squads. Still a good source of third party Mordians. Arven fucked around with this message at 02:08 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 02:05
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Yeast posted:Well, they don’t take morale tests from losing models to shooting. At all. Ah, the good half of wrack and ruin. They should've given them Wrecker on grenades too.
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chutche2 posted:Bolter Drill should probably have 6s generate an extra hit rather than an extra shot. That'd make it a little better. A bunch of inceptors deep striked behind me and with bolter drill would've put my gravis captain in the ground if he didn't have the 2+ armor relic, so there's that. Got 3 or 4 extra hits on me from it. I've only had one game with my inceptors so far. It wasn't until the last turn that i remembered bolter drill was a thing and i think i gained 2 extra hits from it. I think i would have been better off using my last command point on the dreadnought reroll bubble. That's one stratagem that i get a lot of mileage out of.
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Do assault cannons fire bolts? It would've been pretty legit if they'd let assault cannon terminators use bolter drill.
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Sep 27, 2017 02:13
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chutche2 posted:Do assault cannons fire bolts? It would've been pretty legit if they'd let assault cannon terminators use bolter drill. Has to have bolt in the name
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Speckled Jim posted:Has to have bolt in the name I know it does. I'm saying it'd be nice if bolter drill worked for them, not that it currently does.
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Sep 27, 2017 02:25
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dexefiend posted:You fuckers have me pricing out Death Korps of Krieg models. Finish those Howling Griffons first, you mad man!
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I like the IF/CF trait. I've gotten a lot of use out of denying the extra cover save. That said it proooobably depends on what your table looks like.
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Der Waffle Mous posted:I like the IF/CF trait. I've gotten a lot of use out of denying the extra cover save. We get more use of it at my store because we tend to treat pretty much everything on the table as cover if you're on it. So all the hills on our tables work as cover which means it's pretty plentiful.
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Soviet Commubot posted:Looks like Guard is the next book out and Conscripts are getting fixed. Looks like they're getting the Admech treatment rather than the full Death Guard, which is fine with me as long as they actually fix things like normal Leman Russes and such. Grinding Advance is already making me pretty happy. Endman posted:I'm really pumped for Cadian rules, but I get the feeling they'll be saving them for last. I was really hoping for Cadia to be the first regiment revealed like Mars was. I am hype.
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Soviet Commubot posted:Grinding Advance is already making me pretty happy. Plus a points drop! Drive me closer! I wish to drink the tears of the whiners.
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I've been hocking stuff on Reddit and discovered a 2:5 ratio of wonderful:terrible people. In any case, I have a ton of Orks and Dark Eldar left to sell if anyone wants. Most of the Orks Boyz and Lootas Looted Knight Drew Careys Most stuff is tabletop-ready; the converted Knight, MegaNobz, Flash Gitz, FW vehicles, Kanz, and SAG Big Mek are going to run nearer to NIB or above market price because goddamn, I think I painted them well enough. Too exhausted with the start of the school year to make another thread in SA Mart. In happier news, I finished Old One Eye!      
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Proletariat Beowulf posted:I've been hocking stuff on Reddit and discovered a 2:5 ratio of wonderful:terrible people. In any case, I have a ton of Orks and Dark Eldar left to sell if anyone wants. Aren't we at like a 1:10 ratio though
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chutche2 posted:Aren't we at like a 1:10 ratio though Man, I remember when I had never been on Reddit before too.
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Not gonna lie I am really hoping that Cadia's regiment tactic is something loving bonkers like "Transported models may dismount after the transport's movement instead of before" or something. Nothing like powersliding a Chimera around a corner and suddenly disgorging near a half dozen flamers from a Veteran unit. 
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Strobe posted:Not gonna lie I am really hoping that Cadia's regiment tactic is something loving bonkers like "Transported models may dismount after the transport's movement instead of before" or something. Nothing like powersliding a Chimera around a corner and suddenly disgorging near a half dozen flamers from a Veteran unit. That would make more sense for the Steel Legion though. They're the mechanised regiment. Cadians will probably get something insane like "any model with keyword Cadian who fires a lasgun or laspistol counts as having a 3+ to hit"
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You guys are going in the wrong direction, it's going to be something like "Whispers on the Wind - When facing a chaos opponent, if he whispers "CREED" like it's the wind, roll a D6 for each unit. On a 6+, your unit collapses in tears as their homeworld is destroyed and their beloved general is a pokemon."
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gently caress Cadians, 14 years of the same loving Guard armies on the table. I'm done. I'm glad their homeworld got microwaved.
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It's not a Steel Legion Armored Fist, it's a Cadian Armored Fist.  (You're totally right, but it could probably fit for either of them)Other fun possibilities for Steel Legion: - Infantry get +1 Attack the turn they dismount from a transport. - Vehicles get +1 to hit and to wound in close combat (lol this would be amazing)
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Friend of mine kept breaking one of his Valkyries and decided to turn it into terrain.
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 KNOW THE MUTANT; KILL THE MUTANT
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Zuul the Cat posted:Finish those Howling Griffons first, you mad man!  I am going as fast as I can!
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Strobe posted:Not gonna lie I am really hoping that Cadia's regiment tactic is something loving bonkers like "Transported models may dismount after the transport's movement instead of before" or something. Nothing like powersliding a Chimera around a corner and suddenly disgorging near a half dozen flamers from a Veteran unit. See I'm hoping for a "loving bonkers" in the direction of something like "VENGEANCE OF CADIA" where you spend a CP to make them go berserk and attack twice or just ignore LD because everyone and everything they've ever known is loving space ash. I want to model a bunch of new Necromunda gangers as "modern" Cadians who are just an insane Mad-Max esque scavenger regiment hellbent on revenge.
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So how long left do I have for badcast mission 2, 40k blood bowl sounds cool as gently caress
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Felime posted:This will continue the trend of chapters I like getting poo poo rules. I can't understand the attitude online that the Fists tactic is bad. Ignoring cover has been useful to me every game I've played. It's great. The stratagem sucks and the CF relic is overshadowed by the blender that is Teeth of Terra, but the IF one has uses and is very easy to fit in somewhere.
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Yeast posted:gently caress Cadians, 14 years of the same loving Guard armies on the table. I'm done. I'm glad their homeworld got microwaved. How does it feel to be WRONG
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Corrode posted:I can't understand the attitude online that the Fists tactic is bad. Ignoring cover has been useful to me every game I've played. It's great. The stratagem sucks and the CF relic is overshadowed by the blender that is Teeth of Terra, but the IF one has uses and is very easy to fit in somewhere. It is that the tactic is kinda useful and a lot of the rest of the package is useless, whereas the other chapters get stuff you can build an army around or is always useful. Generally if you're playing rules as written anything but infantry squads of 10 or less has a lot of trouble claiming cover.
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