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  Even ignoring detail for a second, just look at the difference in use of color. Even thumbnailed, K6BD pops right off the page, and communicates that it's showing you this vast, alien expanse. SFP dissolves into a sea of white with scribbles on it.
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Burkion posted:Dude, that's not cool
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I'm pretty sure the two comics have been running since around the same time, and both have pretty young artists. Their styles are obviously very different, but both have changed and matured technically. Abaddon actively seeks out and obsessively absorbs critical feedback, is one major difference.
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The use of colour in this page really is atrocious, yeah. It's a messy background but you could make it look really lurid and nightmarish with some stronger, starker contrasts.
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Sep 26, 2017 23:10
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actually i'm the partially occluded sign that says WANKING OF YOU
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Kill Six Billion Clevins
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Synthbuttrange posted:Kill Six Billion Clevins
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Reach Clevin Through Violence
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Piell posted:Reach Clevin Through Violence The C in CHIM is Clevin.
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Sep 27, 2017 01:38
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The real clevin was us all along.
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You know, I was going to joke that this page was going to look good in the collected print edition, but it won't! It's going to look terrible! The colors have been discussed before, but the line work is loving sloppy. It's like the artist gave up halfway through drawing it. But then, in the Dream Realm, reality is only that which is perceived! Is the Mind Fortress a city of infinite complexity or a featureless pile of garbage? Perhaps...it is both!
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To be fair, the artist has been busy drawing sexy catgirl comics to raise money for hurricane relief.
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I mean i might be wrong, but the symbolism of sexy cat girls might be less on the nose than "literal ivory tower in white city"
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he's just the huffiest little dog and he's got a deep voice which just makes it funnier. all night long it's like me: *moves half an inch* v: hrumph. me: *moves half an inch* v: hrumph. me: *moves a full inch* v: HRUMPH! *puff!*
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poo poo wrong thread
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hello, friends
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the old ceremony posted:poo poo wrong thread Are you sure?
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the old ceremony posted:he's just the huffiest little dog and he's got a deep voice which just makes it funnier. all night long it's like I see you met Clevin.
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Also, I feel like when you're drawing a character's mindscape, you're kind of obliged to really go heavy on the symbolism. I mean, obviously the tower is a focal point, which makes sense as Patrick looking out over everything, and I guess the other things that stand out to me are: stormy skies outside the city walls, the city is pristine and empty, and there's giant walls separating parts of the district. Which, I mean, those aren't bad elements, they're just not nearly strong enough for what you're trying to convey here. I really want to make it clear that the artist is clearly a good person based on the side work they're doing for charity, and they apparently sound really overworked, but this page just feels like a creative failure; a lot of that probably comes from the writing side, though.
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I'm going to throw out there, that I think the artist kind of has checked out on the project. With the focus on writing, and really, story going where she wasn't originally seeing it going, and it not being interesting to her, it would make sense. The drawing has dramatically changed since the start and that might be commitments and other things, but I think it might just be, that the writing has kind of just made her not give a poo poo. This is my standing theory. I still am going to rag on her for either doing the least effective underhanded complaint or feeble excuse.
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Axe-man posted:I'm going to throw out there, that I think the artist kind of has checked out on the project. With the focus on writing, and really, story going where she wasn't originally seeing it going, and it not being interesting to her, it would make sense. The drawing has dramatically changed since the start and that might be commitments and other things, but I think it might just be, that the writing has kind of just made her not give a poo poo. I wouldn't be surprised—Ostertag has a proper job for Disney(?) and is publishing her own book with Scholastic soon, so I can imagine that continuing SFP is part obligation, part friendship with the writer more than something she's truly invested in. Even if she's still interested, the first two would obviously take precedent anyway.
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Daphnaie posted:I wouldn't be surprised—Ostertag has a proper job for Disney(?) and is publishing her own book with Scholastic loving how?
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Nuebot posted:loving how? we're in an age of failing upwards
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I don't get how someone can go to a top-tier art school and not bother to learn basic perspective. And before someone tries to defend this page (lol) by saying she clearly knows how to do perspective but just chooses not to, this is a recurring problem with this comic - at no point does the artist bother with doing proper three-, two-, or even basic one-point perspective when making her backgrounds. How does that happen?
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the old ceremony posted:he's just the huffiest little dog and he's got a deep voice which just makes it funnier. all night long it's like I need pics and/or videos
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Axe-man posted:I'm going to throw out there, that I think the artist kind of has checked out on the project. With the focus on writing, and really, story going where she wasn't originally seeing it going, and it not being interesting to her, it would make sense. The drawing has dramatically changed since the start and that might be commitments and other things, but I think it might just be, that the writing has kind of just made her not give a poo poo. let's get idonotlikepeas back in here to give multiple page-long screeds on how it's actually good what does the artist's actual good work look like?
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DOWN JACKET FETISH posted:what does the artist's actual good work look like? Clevin
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Description for her upcoming book:quote:In thirteen-year-old Aster's family, all the girls are raised to be witches, while boys grow up to be shapeshifters. Anyone who dares cross those lines is exiled. Unfortunately for Aster, he still hasn't shifted . . . and he's still fascinated by witchery, no matter how forbidden it might be. 
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Is queerbaiting a term yet
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Wrist Watch posted:Is queerbaiting a term yet It ABSOLUTELY is.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Description for her upcoming book: As a trans woman can I make one request to all webcomic authors. If you wanna write a story about being queer or trans please just write that story. Please stop equating, however well meaning you are, who I am and how I struggle with literal monsters. Even if you're queer yourself just please stop. I'm looking at you Monsterkind. And Monster Pop! gently caress why are there so many of these and they're all the whitest most toothless stories. Thanks.
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The entire bee movie but its a metaphor for trans people
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Typical Pubbie posted:tbf its a book for kids Kids can read books about actual people. It's in fact cooler and better than books about monsters that really muddle their own message and don't really say much.
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More over It could be a story about a kid that fights monsters like this, WHILE ALSO BEING TRANS OR WHATEVER I'm not entirely sure what this is a metaphor FOR exactly. I thought it was just a 'he comes to terms with the fact that he's gay' metaphor but Zen does bring up an excellent point about it maybe being that he's trans. It's A very safe story to tell that may say nothing at all. Hopefully some one enjoys it or gets something from it.
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Burkion posted:More over I also agree, Goodbye to Halos! is a good webcomic Burkion.
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I don't know I learned that I liked to read and science as a young kid by learning about the monstrous troll that no one liked but read a lot then saved the town. If you read my 17 part fan fiction about that universe you will see-
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ZenMasterBullshit posted:I also agree, Goodbye to Halos! is a good webcomic Burkion. Okay look, it's mean to compare her artwork to Six Billion Demons It's down right cruel to bring it up next to Goodbye To Halos you want to talk about how lovely SFP's colors are compared to another comic, woof!
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Axe-man posted:I'm going to throw out there, that I think the artist kind of has checked out on the project. With the focus on writing, and really, story going where she wasn't originally seeing it going, and it not being interesting to her, it would make sense. The drawing has dramatically changed since the start and that might be commitments and other things, but I think it might just be, that the writing has kind of just made her not give a poo poo. I had a quick scrawl through her website and... kinda? It does currently look less effort than the rest of her stuff, but this is definitely still the "style" she's settled on and all the art I saw there would fit right into the comic. I didn't like any of her illustrations and she mostly draws people, probably because Falstaff is right and her perspective skills are absolutely garbage. I'm not even an artist and I've cringed at the pretty terrible mistakes in the past few SFP pages alone.
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Yeah I do not dig the art style and heavy stylization and level that she has settled. As for her book the story seems like extremely queerbating or would it be queerplotive? I don't know but it is a bit simplified and lends the question: what happens when you don't like or do both? The situation seems like an odd setup.
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