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Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Obfuscation posted:

Some team has also worked on a 3d Close Combat for like a decade now, right

I so badly want this to exist but there has been no official news on it has there? Maybe in 2030.

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AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

Popete posted:

I so badly want this to exist but there has been no official news on it has there? Maybe in 2030.

It exists in theory, but they switched engines at some point during development which set them back. They're now using whatever Battle Academy runs on.

The devs promised screenshots "next week" at one point and didn’t follow up for months later and after being pilloried for it. They eventually released two screenshot that looked pretty bad (imo) and they didn't look like anything different had been done with the series.

I think 2030 is a good bet on the release date.

corn in the bible
Jun 5, 2004

Oh no oh god it's all true!

Alchenar posted:

I'm suspicious because while it's nice to see a remake of Panzer General, PC doesn't really take the game in a new direction. I'm not going to say turn-based strategy doesn't belong on Unreal because XCOM, but 3d is not what will make the game worth buying.

Remember when Close Combat was gonna be in 3d

Panzeh
Nov 27, 2006

"..The high ground"

corn in the bible posted:

Remember when Close Combat was gonna be in 3d

Thats been a thing for 15 years now since eric young's squad assault.

StashAugustine
Mar 24, 2013

Do not trust in hope- it will betray you! Only faith and hatred sustain.

uPen posted:

While reading Caesar's Commentaries I get an overwhelming desire to play Alea Jacta Est right up until I actually start playing Alea Jacta Est. Anyone got another game to scratch that itch that is more... fun?

Falling Sky on Vassal

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Is the new TOAW out yet?

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011
What's a good ancients/bronze/classical battle game? preferably without a 90s ui

AARP LARPer
Feb 19, 2005

THE DARK SIDE OF SCIENCE BREEDS A WEAPON OF WAR

Buglord

gradenko_2000 posted:

Is the new TOAW out yet?

Not yet and no definitive date though things sort of suggest that it'll be out by the end of the year.

HannibalBarca
Sep 11, 2016

History shows, again and again, how nature points out the folly of man.

Ghost of Mussolini posted:

What's a good ancients/bronze/classical battle game? preferably without a 90s ui

Slitherine has a game coming out called Field of Glory 2, I believe, that looks like something you might be interested in

Squiggle
Sep 29, 2002

I don't think she likes the special sauce, Rick.


I am happy someone named HannibalBarca answered that question.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
Newish UBOOT gameplay video looks really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudjyAzvjTg

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Ehhh still doesn't look much better than SH3

HerpicleOmnicron5
May 31, 2013

How did this smug dummkopf ever make general?


if the world isn't stretched out wider than it actually is, then it's already better than SH3

also if it has an actual weather system and not "this week is a storm" then it'd be pretty swell

Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Looked worse than SH3+mods except for the graphics, and even those were kinda meh.

V for Vegas
Sep 1, 2004

THUNDERDOME LOSER

WAR DOGS OF SOCHI posted:

It exists in theory, but they switched engines at some point during development which set them back. They're now using whatever Battle Academy runs on.

The devs promised screenshots "next week" at one point and didn’t follow up for months later and after being pilloried for it. They eventually released two screenshot that looked pretty bad (imo) and they didn't look like anything different had been done with the series.

I think 2030 is a good bet on the release date.

At least it is being worked on, albeit very, very slowly by just one guy. They have released some more screenshots recently.



Bold Robot
Jan 6, 2009

Be brave.



Popete posted:

Newish UBOOT gameplay video looks really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cudjyAzvjTg

I admittedly haven't read anything about this game but the amount of micro looks pretty insane.

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Is it super hard to get into Graviteam? I feel like I tried to do the tutorial once and got super bogged down.

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Taintrunner posted:

Is it super hard to get into Graviteam? I feel like I tried to do the tutorial once and got super bogged down.

Well you see the UI is actually very intuitive and...

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
No but really Graviteam games are great and not all that hard to get the basics of. The UI mostly sucks but it's passable. The game plays more cinematic so don't expect to be micromanaging your troops and who they fire at. It's meant to be a broad/big picture game where you are commanding platoons to defend/attack areas.

It's biggest fault is the incomprehensible reenforcement​/reserve system of the campaign map. I never figured it out.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Quality of troops and morale matters a lot. The game plays more traditionally as an RTS with average+ troops. Unfortunately many scenarios give USSR troops dismal morale, poor command, and poo poo quality

Ghost of Mussolini
Jun 26, 2011

HannibalBarca posted:

Slitherine has a game coming out called Field of Glory 2, I believe, that looks like something you might be interested in

Thank you! Seems to be built on a pike and shot base, which is promising.

Dimitris
Apr 11, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
Miguel Molina has released the updated version of the Command community scenario pack. The new release includes a breathtaking twenty new scenarios:

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Northern Fury #13.4 - Hammer (1994): Bart Gauvin's WW3 epic continues. You are commanding the USAF’s 336th Fighter Squadron – The Rocketeers, and your mission is to sever the only ground link through central Norway – the E6 Highway. Several elements of 25th Air Force will be supporting you, in particular SEAD and OCA support from 81st Tactical Fighter Wing and some of the heavies from Scotland, but this is your time to show what your F-15Es can do.

Northern Fury #12.4 - Sneak & Peek (1994): As the Soviet ground and air campaign moves south, consuming massive amounts of supplies and resources, the Rear Services group for Archangel Corps struggles to keep pace. For much of Norway’s coastline there is a single two-lane road connecting from the Arctic border near Murmansk all the way to Trondheim, over 2000 Km including an 8Km ferry SW of Narvik. In order to speed the delivery of supplies, coastal shipping is in fairly heavy usage. But that is vulnerable – and your job is to prove just how vulnerable that is.

One Ship, One Country (2017): The capabilities of the F-35 and LHA as a light carrier are to be put to the test in this wargame where a single amphibious ship is quickly diverted to attack a fictional nation comprised of highly skilled Aggressors. For many of the newly trained pilots, it will be their first big "battle". The hypothetical AEW-Osprey joins the Lightning II in the scenario. For the commander, it will also be a big battle-of how to deal with the 'rationing' of limited ammunition and many targets.

Confrontation near Tartus (2017): This scenario assumes the attack on Syria by U.S. forces in 2017 was quickly followed by another strike. By this time, however, Russia has a surface action group (SAG) in the area and it is not clear how they will respond.

Baltic Ballet (2019): The "Gotland Independence Front", a group suspiciously similar to Ukraine's "Little Green Men", has occupied the island of Gotland and its rich natural resources. How will the Swedish government respond?

Deter, Detect, Defend - CF-105 variant (1962): Chris Comars' already-classic nuclear air defence scenario gets spiced up with the addition of Canada's interceptor that never was, the mighty CF-105 Arrow. (And you thought TSR.2 buffs were bad)

Desperate Measures (2016): Bolivia and Chile are at war, and the Bolivian Air Force plots a desperation mission with its remaining strength.

String of Pearls - Lance the Boil (2020): Following months of negotiations, the Chinese military base in Sri Lanka is to be eliminated before it can be further developed. The USN Combined Task Force 151 (CTF-151) is ordered to destroy the facilities located at Port Hambantota on the southern coast. The attack must be a lean quick strike to send a firm message that any moves toward the Diego Garcia US base will not be tolerated.

Yankee Team (1966): Operation Rolling Thunder continues apace for the US Navy. For the next 24 hours, you will be overseeing air operations for Task Force 77, on station at Yankee Point and conducting strikes on North Vietnam. The targets for today, located in the USN's area of air operations at Route Packages 2, 3, 4 and 6B, have just been assigned with direct oversight from the White House. It is sure to be a long day.

Korean Crisis (1994): The Korean crisis of 1994 is a seldom studied incident the in timeline of US efforts to halt North Korea’s nuclear and ballistic missile programs. Realistically, the ’94 crisis was the starting point. In June of that year the United States found itself dangerously close to war with North Korea. It was becoming evident that North Korea was committed to developing nuclear weapons. The primary concern in Washington at the time was that any action the US might take could result in war on the Korean peninsula. The North Korean government had made it clear that even an act such as the implementation of sanctions would be regarded as an act of war. Tensions were rising and the possibility of war was quite real.

Duke of York Never Gives Up (1950): During the early days of the Korean crisis, the United Kingdom decided to send two large warships into the Sea of Okhtosk as an intelligence-gathering and show-of-force mission. They did not expect the Soviet Union to respond with open hostilities.

Khasab Helicopter Strike (2017): The turmoil of Middle Eastern politics has turned to Oman, and the UAE attempts a daring helicopter hop across the mountains to seize Khasab.

Cocos Islands (1978): The Cocos (Keeling) Islands in the Indian ocean occupy an important strategic location, allowing extension of regional force projection, surveillance and secure lines of communication. They are also located close to IO and South China Sea shipping lanes. This strategic importance is further boosted by the airfield that was constructed there in WWII. In 1978, due to the very poor treatment of the islanders and the feudal system of governance by the then owners, the Clunies-Ross family, the Australian government forced the islands owners to sell the island to them using the threat of compulsory acquisition. This scenario explores what may have happened if the disgruntled Clunies-Ross family instead sold the island to India.

Northern Fury #13.5 - Anvil (1994): Strike Fleet Atlantic (STRIKFLTLANT) is now in the second phase of its counter attack in the Atlantic. Fighting on Iceland continues but 2 MEF believes that they will have the island clear within the week. A massive NATO attack three days ago halted Soviet plans to seize Oslo but with Berlin and Copenhagen in Russian hands, the situation is not yet assured. Commander STRIKFLTLANT has set in motion a series of attacks designed set up the conditions for upcoming amphibious operations in central Norway – Operation Thor’s Lightning. This is one of those actions.

Arctic Tsunami (2019): Following a massive cyber attack, "Little Green Men" units feature prominently in erupting riots accross all three Baltic states. At the same time the Russian Northern fleet is performing a major sortie centered around its strategic missile submarines and the upgraded flagship Admiral Nakhimov. To counter this, the RN carrier Queen Elizabeth embarks with a squadron of F-35Bs and the shut-down airbase at Keflavik in Iceland is hastily reactivated.

Indian Fury #2 - Mozambique Madness (1994): The chaos of WW3 fought in Europe (as chronicled in the "Northern Fury" series) now spills over into the Indian Ocean. A depleted battle group steaming into the IO after a visit to Cape Town is caught in the emerging maelstrom. Indian Fury #3 – Socotra Scramble (1994): Commanding the USS Nimitz CVBG, you have been tasked to steam at maximum possible speed north to join the 6th Fleet in the Mediterranean. Things are "interesting" in the Indian Ocean but positively frantic in the Med. You will need to assemble your Battle Group, neutralize several layers of enemy defences, and proceed through restricted, hazard-laden waters to enter the Red Sea on your journey to the main theater of operations.

Blood Diamonds (2018): On August 2018 an alleged coup d'état was attempted in Angola against state institutions, including (but not limited to) the government and President Jose Eduardo dos Santos. The attempt was carried out by a faction within the Angolan Armed Forces that organized themselves as the FNLA (Frente Nacional de Libertação de Angola). On August 5th, the ruling MPLA party, considering its strong economic relations with China (Angola is China's second biggest trading partner in Africa), appealed to the Chinese government with the request to help stabilize the situation in country.

Between Ascension and San Carlos (1982): Argentina's navy was quite powerful by South America standards, but never tried to attack the British lines of communication in the Atlantic between Ascension Islands and the Falklands. This hypothetical scenario depicts an aggressive Argentine blue water navy formation trying to attack escorted Royal Navy replenishment ships, carrying much needed fuel and spares to the British task force to the South.

Between Ascension and San Carlos - The carrier duel (1982): This hypothetical scenario depicts aggressive moves by Argentinian task forces, including the Venticinco de Mayo carrier, trying to attack escorted Royal Navy replenishment ships, carrying much needed fuel and spares to the British task force to the South. The Royal Navy, discovering the plan, calls the Invincible carrier with escorts and a SSN for help from the south, trying to stop the Argentine formation and save the replenishment ships.

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As always, the community scenario pack is available for download from the Command downloads page: http://www.warfaresims.com/?page_id=1876 . Most of the scenarios are also available for individual download on the Command workshop on Steam.

Vahakyla
May 3, 2013

Nuramor posted:

What mods would you recommend?

Like it was mentioned for Rome 2: Emperor Edition, I like to use "Divide et Impera" for historic poo poo. It is available on the game's Steam Workshop, making it pretty easy to setup. It groggifies the game very well.
http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=294694062

It overhauls pretty much, uhh, everything and takes it to grog-town, but not quite to the dark side of the railroad tracks, just the main street.

If you don't want to go for DEI right away, here's more basic ones.

-Veni Vidi Vici UI mod from workshop.
-Four Turns Per year mod allows families to exist way longer, and the game to proceed at a more acceptable pace. DO NOT USE if you use Divide et Impera.
-Season Effects for Main Campaign adds more pronounced seasons with various effects. Use only if you use 4tpy mod. DO NOT USE i Divide et Impera.

I'd start with that and see what you like. After you play one Grand Campaign through, you'll have a way better understanding what you miss and what you don't want in the game. The game's steam workshop is active, expansive, and offers a poo poo ton of solutions to problems you didn't even know existed. After your initiation, you might be interested in the Family Tree mods that add more diverse family members, influence decisions, options for adopting all kids of people, incest, etc etc to preserve faction. But even the vanilla family tree is pretty decent.

I also like mods that buff the Mob-unit that acts as chaff in cities, especially Death By Stoning that allows them to toss rocks and thus harass wall-climbers. Always Capture Artillery allows you to get the siege machines to the campaign that seize on the battlefield. Huge fan, seems like a minor mod, but is a good way to get siege equipment in far away campaigns if you chase the dudes away instead of destroying the machines.

The game is good. Really good.


Caesar In Gaul mini campaign DLC also owns bones.

Vahakyla fucked around with this message at 11:01 on Sep 22, 2017

fuf
Sep 12, 2004

haha

Vahakyla posted:


The game is good. Really good.

I hadn't played for a long time but I just played a bit of Divide et Impera. How do you avoid every battle just turning into a clusterfuck? It seems like the AI loves to just pile all its units into one place. It's always like 10 enemy melee units against my poor single hastati. I'm trying to be strategic with my awesome triplex acies and slowly feeding in reserves to the front line, but it kinda seems like it's better to just throw everything in at once?

I wish there was some kind of "frontage" mechanic where units couldn't all occupy the same space at once.

Phi230
Feb 2, 2016

by Fluffdaddy
Roma Surrectum 2.6 is better (for R1)

Jobbo_Fett
Mar 7, 2014

Slava Ukrayini

Clapping Larry

fuf posted:

I hadn't played for a long time but I just played a bit of Divide et Impera. How do you avoid every battle just turning into a clusterfuck? It seems like the AI loves to just pile all its units into one place. It's always like 10 enemy melee units against my poor single hastati. I'm trying to be strategic with my awesome triplex acies and slowly feeding in reserves to the front line, but it kinda seems like it's better to just throw everything in at once?

I wish there was some kind of "frontage" mechanic where units couldn't all occupy the same space at once.

Flank the gently caress out of them if they try to concentrate in one area.

Also, always have archers/slingers + cavalry. A large group that all focuses on one point makes for a great charge target and, if done correctly, morale breaks can spread quickly against a dense grouping

Velius
Feb 27, 2001

Dimitris posted:


Blood Diamonds (2018): On August 2018 an alleged coup d'état was attempted in Angola against state institutions, including (but not limited to) the government and President Jose Eduardo dos Santos. The attempt was carried out by a faction within the Angolan Armed Forces that organized themselves as the FNLA (Frente Nacional de Libertação de Angola). On August 5th, the ruling MPLA party, considering its strong economic relations with China (Angola is China's second biggest trading partner in Africa), appealed to the Chinese government with the request to help stabilize the situation in country.

This seems familiar somehow...

cxp
Mar 27, 2010
Fun Shoe

Abongination posted:

I've been stuck in hospital recently and am probs here for another two weeks. My laptop is a mac book air that I use for design stuff so it can't handle any new grog games.

Any suggestions? Just recently rediscovered Rule the waves and the patches for it so been having some fun with that but that's literally the only thing I can think of with some depth that will run.

Save me from actually doing any work while I'm in here grog thread, you're my only hope.

From a few pages back, but are you running Rule The Waves through wine? I've been looking to pick it up, but I wasn't sure how well it would work on a mac.

ZombieLenin
Sep 6, 2009

"Democracy for the insignificant minority, democracy for the rich--that is the democracy of capitalist society." VI Lenin


[/quote]

cxp posted:

From a few pages back, but are you running Rule The Waves through wine? I've been looking to pick it up, but I wasn't sure how well it would work on a mac.

I can't imagine you'd have problems. I mean, the game is almost exclusively a number cruncher with two dimensional display/GUI so you don't have to worry too much about poo poo like Direct X calls, which from my recollection is the type of thing that can give WINE fits.

Best solution though--stop overpaying for apple's OS. Not only is the OS not worth the incredibly huge premium you have pay, but it prevents you from playing frog games. :colbert:

I men don't get me wrong, it's a good OS, but not worth paying literally double for the hardware in some cases.

Okay, I will stop :catholic: the merits of PC ownership now...

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:



Just Bootcamp into Windows when you want to play a game, screw fiddling around with hacky as poo poo Wine setups.

Yooper
Apr 30, 2012


Speaking of Mac, here's my AAR for running Aurora 4X in Wineskin.

Meh.

It works. Then you open research, just like you did five minutes ago, and get a cascade of errors. Exit. Restart. No issues. Fast forward 10 more minutes and the same thing. Or the game suddenly goes to 10 second mode for no real reason. Then it crashes. Again.

Once I source another laptop for work it's back to a PC.

Dimitris
Apr 11, 2017

by Fluffdaddy
Command: Shifting Sands is announced!

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
Playing the Case Blue scenario on WITE, I pocket and liquidate about a dozen Soviet divisions and four Corps, and have a completely empty Don River between Voronezh and Boguchar.

I hit end turn ... and come back to a fully manned line. I say "where did all these divisions come from?!" out loud, pause, and laugh at the bitter irony of it all.


Heck yes this is gonna be good

xthetenth
Dec 30, 2012

Mario wasn't sure if this Jeb guy was a good influence on Yoshi.

Given the timeframe, is this going to unify the databases?

Abongination
Aug 18, 2010

Life, it's the shit that happens while you're waiting for moments that never come.
Pillbug

cxp posted:

From a few pages back, but are you running Rule The Waves through wine? I've been looking to pick it up, but I wasn't sure how well it would work on a mac.

Yep, runs great through wine. Had to move the dashboard to the right side to get the window large enough to see the end turn button but a-ok!

Stago Lego
Sep 3, 2011

Nice, me like! :discourse:
Are there going to be any new features like Chains of War?

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.
Do the changes end up in the regular game in CMANO?

Dimitris
Apr 11, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

xthetenth posted:

Given the timeframe, is this going to unify the databases?

No.

Dimitris
Apr 11, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

Stago Lego posted:

Nice, me like! :discourse:
Are there going to be any new features like Chains of War?

This is a more content-focused expansion, like Northern Inferno.

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Dimitris
Apr 11, 2017

by Fluffdaddy

skooma512 posted:

Do the changes end up in the regular game in CMANO?

As a rule, yes. There are currently a number of features that are exclusive to CoW, but the rest are all included in the base game.

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