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I'm surprised how many people are still unfamiliar with league cadence.
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Sep 27, 2017 20:45
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J posted:Do you have vaal pact yet? Cloaked in savagery+Vaal pact is what makes berserker so good right now. You want to have a cast on damage taken + bladefall + a fast hitting spell (firestorm, blade vortex, something like that) setup, with the cast on damage taken gem being leveled to the point where it activates at 15% of your HP, aka every savage hit. Berserker's already got good leech so you don't need warlord's mark. The main things that can kill you are 1 shots and damage over time effects that don't trigger cloaked in savagery. Or lots of little hits that also don't trigger cloaked in savagery. If cloaked in savagery is active, then your cwdt setup will heal you for a ton by itself, nevermind the healing from actually hitting stuff with dark pact yourself. Thanks for the write-up.  I basically have most of these things done, but I am fairly sure it's a combination of: - Low'ish damage - No Savage Hit - Reduced leech on bosses If you combine them, they amplify eachother, which might explain it? I just did some mini-boss with Atziri's flask, a life leech gem (so even lower damage) and it was at least doable with a portal or two. I probably need to get a lot more damage (maybe already invest in a 6L), levels (picking more chaos damage nodes) and then gem levels as well.
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Sep 27, 2017 20:46
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cinci zoo sniper posted:I'm surprised how many people are still unfamiliar with league cadence. Could you elaborate on this? I've only played this league, so I don't really have any context.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:16
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Soothing Vapors posted:sometimes I wonder if Mathil quietly stockpiles uniques he knows he's about to blow up and then unloads them for huge profits. he'd almost be stupid not to Yeah I used to think that, but in reality the truth is much more grim. He actually posted about this on Reddit not to long ago, and reading it definitely made me feel for him. He literally hates the "Mathil effect" and despises the people who knowingly seek profit from it. He even goes as far as downplaying certain uniques so that people don't automatically jack the prices. Thinking about it though, it makes sense. His viewer base is new players who don't understand how to properly balance resists/damages across your entire gear set, so that you can get all the things you need for the cheapest possible amount. Instead, they just look at his guides piece by piece and try to copy what he has EXACTLY. when they can't find what he has, their first reaction is to spam chat/forums aboht how it's just another multi-exalt build. I noticed the same thing with a lot of wanders, trying to copy the guides EXACTLY. that's how I managed to sell a few lovely flakes for 25-50c.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:18
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NofrikinfuN posted:Could you elaborate on this? I've only played this league, so I don't really have any context. Leagues last about 3 months with ~2 weeks before the next league, possibly with some filler race league during that break. Harbinger end on Nov 27, so next league should be mid-December. vvv Oh, that. Yeah, good point. whypick1 fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 21:21
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NofrikinfuN posted:Could you elaborate on this? I've only played this league, so I don't really have any context. With this expansion being extremely large, and targeting fresh players such as yourself, it was especially predictable that the league will be calm and will not significantly interfere with the base game. Still though, imagining average redditor, there are going to be mountains of salt next league too. Lots of people want another Breach, Legacy, or Perandus league, and GGG are far from stupid enough to repeat those mistakes. cinci zoo sniper fucked around with this message at 21:27 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 21:22
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whypick1 posted:Leagues last about 3 months with ~2 weeks before the next league, possibly with some filler race league during that break. Harbinger end on Nov 27, so next league should be mid-December. Oh, thanks. I gotta admit, if my life wasn't currently a shambles, I might be flaming out about now. I hit 24 challenges and there's not much chance I will be able to do Uber Atziri or Shaper, so aside from trying new builds, I'm low on goals. On the other hand, these Facebreakers are totally my jam, so I might build a Berserker or Slayer next. 
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Sep 27, 2017 21:27
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Would like an invite to the guild if there is any room currently. Character Name: BigLogDog
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Sep 27, 2017 21:27
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cinci zoo sniper posted:Big expansions get calm leagues so the attention is on the expansion, and not the league. Following updates are minor, so they get an in your face league to generate influx of content. This time should be even more fun since GGG have promised another expansion for December (likely lost cuts of Oriath). yes, clearly the leagues that people enjoyed the most were the mistakes. more ambush and talisman tier leagues are the only answer
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Sep 27, 2017 21:29
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I guess I'm curious to hear the argument for those leagues being bad.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:39
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Jazerus posted:yes, clearly the leagues that people enjoyed the most were the mistakes. more ambush and talisman tier leagues are the only answer People are dumb, news at 11. Perandus killed economy almost instantly, and Breach/Legacy were so dense with mobs and loot that GGG are now biting themselves in the dick due to people getting so used to it. Pushing more of the same or beyond will just generate more long term problems, so they will be scaling down and enduring backlash from the average player in the process.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:41
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10bux posted:Yeah I used to think that, but in reality the truth is much more grim. He actually posted about this on Reddit not to long ago, and reading it definitely made me feel for him. He literally hates the "Mathil effect" and despises the people who knowingly seek profit from it. He even goes as far as downplaying certain uniques so that people don't automatically jack the prices. Aww, that's kind of a bummer. That could explain why he usually tries to give alternative uniques and whatnot in his builds.
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Sep 27, 2017 21:44
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Has GGG ever entertained the possibility of a numbered sequel or clean slate? As a new player one thing that struck me is how many remnants of past leagues and expansions there are. Speaking of Perandus, is it worth turning that mod on from time to time, or would you have to hit the lottery to get anything worthwhile out of Cadiro?
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Sep 27, 2017 22:06
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cinci zoo sniper posted:People are dumb, news at 11. Perandus killed economy almost instantly, and Breach/Legacy were so dense with mobs and loot that GGG are now biting themselves in the dick due to people getting so used to it. Pushing more of the same or beyond will just generate more long term problems, so they will be scaling down and enduring backlash from the average player in the process. drat poors need to know their place! One can not truly have without the not haves.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:08
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crank up the mobs to breach-era levels permanently and make leagues change mechanics but not change mob densityNofrikinfuN posted:Has GGG ever entertained the possibility of a numbered sequel or clean slate? As a new player one thing that struck me is how many remnants of past leagues and expansions there are. its far far far too late for perandus unless you're a lotto winner early in the league (first 1-2 weeks) you can get league specific items and walk away with a ton of ex lmao @ numbered sequel or clean slate, no they haven't and they won't Duck and Cover posted:drat poors need to know their place! One can not truly have without the not haves. you sure are dumb it really sucks having items worth anything, I wish every unique cost 1c that's the key to a really FUN game
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Sep 27, 2017 22:17
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NofrikinfuN posted:Has GGG ever entertained the possibility of a numbered sequel or clean slate? As a new player one thing that struck me is how many remnants of past leagues and expansions there are. I'm guessing they wont, since they make their money off of MTX instead of selling a new release and cutting off people from their previously bought MTX would be suicide. Also it would make them far more money to just release new expansions instead of a sequel. The crazy feature bloat is the case with most games that are F2P (team fortress 2 anyone?). At most what I could see them doing is continuing to retire underused mechanics like Rampage and Tempest and continuing to clean up the systems under the hood, as well as continue with graphical upgrades.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:21
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:crank up the mobs to breach-era levels permanently and make leagues change mechanics but not change mob density Yeah Perandus was awful people having stuff that they didn't earn gently caress man! At least it had wealth distributors making sure people with good Cadiro deals didn't waste them.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:25
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I wonder how they're going to do expansions now that the main storyline is complete? Multiple endgame epilogues? Like you can do maps, OR this other area with quests in it?
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Sep 27, 2017 22:28
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Duck and Cover posted:Yeah Perandus was awful people having stuff that they didn't earn gently caress man! At least it had wealth distributors making sure people with good Cadiro deals didn't waste them. if you don't understand why uniques being rare is a good thing then I can't help you man what is the motivation to keep grinding
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Sep 27, 2017 22:49
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:if you don't understand why uniques being rare is a good thing then I can't help you man If you don't understand why people enjoy leagues where uniques are less rare then I can't help you.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:56
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ye4y5noik deadanddoom just killed izaro in less than 1 hour (ssf race)Duck and Cover posted:Yeah Perandus was awful Correct.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:01
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McFrugal posted:I wonder how they're going to do expansions now that the main storyline is complete? Multiple endgame epilogues? Like you can do maps, OR this other area with quests in it? I'd guess the December expansion is mostly going to be new and/or revamped maps incorporating versions of the bosses they added in 3.0 After that there'll be an expansion where you have to grind to get four things to put in your map device.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:29
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Meyers-Briggs Testicle posted:if you don't understand why uniques being rare is a good thing then I can't help you man Lol if you don't ignore everything he says, hes just a grumpy troll. Like literally, put that ignore list to use, makes things a lot better.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:33
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i think it would be fun if for one league i could have a headhunter. the everyone gets a hh league.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:39
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Duck and Cover posted:drat poors need to know their place! One can not truly have without the not haves. Duck and Cover posted:Yeah Perandus was awful people having stuff that they didn't earn gently caress man! At least it had wealth distributors making sure people with good Cadiro deals didn't waste them. Duck and Cover posted:If you don't understand why people enjoy leagues where uniques are less rare then I can't help you. :iamafag:
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Sep 27, 2017 23:41
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Breach was a blast, but it had the downside where it made you feel awful if while leveling you were too weak to handle breachs without dying and sorta forced you to play the kind of build that was min/maxed speed to the max to kill everything in a breach and still open the chests, those were my favorite builds, but I imagine it would of sucked for people who liked a slower pace.
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Sep 28, 2017 00:11
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Qwertycoatl posted:I'd guess the December expansion is mostly going to be new and/or revamped maps incorporating versions of the bosses they added in 3.0
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Sep 28, 2017 00:40
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Twinned ghosted kitava will be fun and good
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Sep 28, 2017 00:53
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Awesome! posted:i think it would be fun if for one league i could have a headhunter. the everyone gets a hh league. This is what I thought legacy league was going to be. Big loving letdown.
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Sep 28, 2017 01:00
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Yeah, I imagine that next league will be some assortment of previous ones, with an introduction of a bunch of new maps using the new assets from 3.0, and maybe a couple of new extended end game pieces of content that revolve around said maps. One idea that I think would be cool would be maps inside of maps that stack the modifiers. Sort of like when you meet Zana in a map, it would be possible to have a map device spawn within a map and pop a new one in there that would add the current mods of you map, to the 'next level' map. It would also only be possible to to reach certain end game content by going X levels deep into maps.
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Sep 28, 2017 01:02
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Mr. Despair posted:Twinned ghosted kitava will be fun and good Go gently caress yourself for even putting that thought into my head 
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Sep 28, 2017 01:03
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I think I want to resell my Magma Orb specific gear (I've had my fun with it) and convert my inquisitor to using ele converted BV instead. They'd use (more or less) the same sort of passive pathing, I assume?
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Sep 28, 2017 01:16
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J posted:This is what I thought legacy league was going to be. Big loving letdown. same
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Sep 28, 2017 03:04
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I want new masters for crafting mods on maps, jewels, and even gems.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:09
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Uh, Zana? Being able to apply mods you want onto maps seems like  And what would you craft on gems? A Jewel crafter would be nice though.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:15
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whypick1 posted:Uh, Zana? Being able to apply mods you want onto maps seems like You want to talk a , add a unique crafter.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:19
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Mr. Despair posted:Lol if you don't ignore everything he says, hes just a grumpy troll. While this might be very true, he's right in this case.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:19
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whypick1 posted:Uh, Zana? Being able to apply mods you want onto maps seems like put mods on gems 
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Sep 28, 2017 03:28
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Mr. Despair posted:Lol if you don't ignore everything he says, hes just a grumpy troll. I hate people telling me the obvious faults in the game I play, thus they must be a troll. gently caress off just cause someone has an opinion you do not share does not mean they're trolling. People (possibly the majority who knows) enjoy leagues where things are more attainable, it isn't strange. Duck and Cover fucked around with this message at 03:59 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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Sep 28, 2017 03:33
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Worst league for me was Legacy, I didn't even stick it out for more than a few days before just totally losing interest in the mechanic. It didn't help that reliquary keys were super rare and the chances of actually getting something desirable from them were terribly low.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:49
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