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Mans posted:Goons be like "The AI is retarded and barely a challenge" in one post and immediately after go "I don't care about MP". To be fair I have certainly encountered people who were worse than the AI at this game. In shogun 2 60% of my wins were people ignoring the extremely obvious group of yari cavalry flanking them while simultaneously leaving their general completely unprotected. Carcer fucked around with this message at 22:24 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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I ride bikes all day posted:This same discussion came up right before War of the Chosen dropped for XCOM 2. Is this like a thing now? Wasn't there for that but did no performance or UI or other non-expansion improvements make their way into a patch for the base game? I come from Paradox where that poo poo happens with every single DLC drop.
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Vlex posted:You got a source for that? Asking out of genuine curiosity. http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/04/22/total-war-warhammer-officially-revealed-with-trailer
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Dark_Swordmaster posted:Wasn't there for that but did no performance or UI or other non-expansion improvements make their way into a patch for the base game? yeah, Paradox can pull it off mostly because they design around doing that from moment one, with the miiinor side effect that as in Victoria eventually you reach a point where you've piled enough tweaks on top of other tweaks everyone's terrified of touching any subsystem for fear they'll blow the whole thing up
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Regarding the title, the judges would have also accepted "Come on the Slann, and Skaven kill-kill Mann"
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Carcer posted:To be fair I have certainly encountered people who were worse than the AI at this game. In shogun 2 60% of my wins were people ignoring the extremely obvious group of yari cavalry flanking them while simultaneously leaving their general completely unprotected. Sounds like we already have human level battle AI then.
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GuardianOfAsgaard posted:http://uk.ign.com/articles/2015/04/22/total-war-warhammer-officially-revealed-with-trailer Well then
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Nanomashoes posted:Sounds like we already have human level battle AI then. I'd agree, except the AI at least makes a token effort to intercept with spearmen or cavalry or something.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:45
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Carcer posted:I'd agree, except the AI at least makes a token effort to intercept with spearmen or cavalry or something. The AI has the advantage of always being able to see all it's troops, it has awareness of the battlefield that far surpasses that of a human (this makes Ai's really good at micro in general), it's just generally less capable of making a good decision with that information than a human would. So, an AI is more likely to notice you pulling such a maneuver, but a human if they notice it is more likely to properly counter it. I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:49
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Carcer posted:I'd agree, except the AI at least makes a token effort to intercept with spearmen or cavalry or something. Yeah, honestly the thing that holds up the battle AI the most is that the campaign AI is often too bad to give them a decent army composition so they run too archer-heavy, making fast units disproportionately good at killing them even if they do try to flank. Things like the quest battles (when you select them from the menu so your comp is also set) you can see that the AI isn't bad at all. This is also why the few times I jumped into MP I got a really big lesson in the importance of an adequately sized front line: the AI usually doesn't have one so you don't really need one either.
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Making genius level AI would be completely useless to most players, of which I estimate 95% would reload if they ever lost a battle. The current AI actually performs quite well even vs a player when it can take advantage of its strengths (controlling an unlimited # of units at one instant). 40 vs 40 battles are great if your computer can handle them, and I wish the series would crack the 20 unit limit armies have had for a long time. Captain Beans fucked around with this message at 23:06 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Sep 27, 2017 23:03
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Third World Reggin posted:Gork is the god of tactical strategy Mork will flank you when you not looking and Gork will flank you twice as hard when you are. Sedisp fucked around with this message at 23:11 on Sep 27, 2017 |
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Third World Reggin posted:Gork is the god of tactical strategy Sedisp posted:Mork will flank you when you not looking and Gork will flank you twice as hard when you are. 
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Can we use a VPN to launch early?
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Sep 27, 2017 23:30
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It will never not be funny to me that GW got so sick of writing fluff where the orks didn't know which one was Gork or Mork, that they just picked
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Tenzarin posted:Can we use a VPN to launch early? No, it's unlocking the same time everywhere.
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Sep 27, 2017 23:42
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2:30 am CST here. 
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Safety Factor posted:2:30 am CST here. Hey middle US buddy
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Safety Factor posted:2:30 am CST here. same, but I have no obligations and plenty of caffeine.
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Sep 28, 2017 00:09
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Railing coke and pretending its Warpstone powder.
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Tardcore posted:same, but I have no obligations and plenty of caffeine. I'm telling myself this is a really bad idea
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Dandywalken posted:Railing coke and pretending its Warpstone powder. Be careful, don't want to summon a SWAT team
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StashAugustine posted:I'm telling myself this is a really bad idea I'm CST too. One 8am class tomorrow then I'm free, I can make it right? I have a coffee machine, 24 coke zeros, and an undying love for elves.
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Yvonmukluk posted:It's the other way round, ya Zoggin' gits! Mork Boyz 4 Lyfe has Declared war on you
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I have so much stuff going on Thursday, but at least most of it involves actually interacting with friends so it'll be almost as good
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StashAugustine posted:I have so much stuff going on Thursday, but at least most of it involves actually interacting with friends so it'll be almost as good hah, look at this nerd!
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:hah, look at this nerd! Hey, I'm going to hanging out with friends tomorrow too. The Lizardmen are real, and strong, and my friends.
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Sep 28, 2017 00:36
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Part of it is for a boardgame night so I clearly just need to bring Warhammer Diskwars
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Sep 28, 2017 00:38
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StashAugustine posted:Part of it is for a boardgame night so I clearly just need to bring Warhammer Diskwars better yet, bust out actual whfb 
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This game will be ready to play when I get home from the gym tonight. Do you even lift ratman?
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My allegiance is to skaven but I want more gunpowder units for them... I'm conflicted. Lizardmen will probably be much easier for a first campaign and they also own hard.
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I'm going with poncy elves first and no-one can stop me except for the fact that I don't play much total war and I'm poo poo at it So I will probably get a shitload of elves killed
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someone roll a dice for me and make me choose high elf dark elf skaven which one first
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I'm going to hit Skaven first, because I like new and different things but I'm pretty sure they play kinda like Skarsnik gobbos, one of my least favorite factions. Lizard men is next. gently caress all elves
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Everyone should remember that you'll have to wait a while for the pre-loaded game files to be encrypted and unpacked and stuff. This will be totally forgotten once the game unlocks and the thread will be flooded with complaints of install and such taking forever even though they pre-loaded.
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Third World Reggin posted:someone roll a dice for me and make me choose rats1, emos2, chads3: 1d3 2
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emos it is
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it seems like skrolk will be the best LL for skaven to start cause he gets those great skaven spawning powers
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nopantsjack posted:it seems like skrolk will be the best LL for skaven to start cause he gets those great skaven spawning powers Honestly Skrolk just looks a lot better in general. Skrolk is this crazy strong Magic Rat with a bunch of unique powers and items and crap who's also kinda decent in melee, while Queek is just your extra-stabby generic Rat Lord except he can't ride any bigger rats. Not to say Queek isn't worth taking for a spin but I don't think he'll get much play even in MP. Life is tough out there for melee duelist lords without a mount.
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