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ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."
Is the two-jumpstart ff6 event bugged or working as intended? I need those Bravery motes and if it's not supposed to be there I should probably do it now.

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Books On Tape
Dec 26, 2003

Future of the franchise
6/22 so far on Phase 2

Locke BSB - Thief Knife
Bartz BSB - Great Sword
Relm BSB - Magical Brush
Golbez BSB - Zeromus Shard
Krile SSB - Fire Lash
Beatrix SSB - Ragnarok

Still trying to figure out which characters/relics are worth using. Seems like Bartz is going into my main party. May pull again trying for a chicken knife.

Alxprit
Feb 7, 2015

<click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!

ceaselessfuture posted:

Is the two-jumpstart ff6 event bugged or working as intended? I need those Bravery motes and if it's not supposed to be there I should probably do it now.

It is supposed to be there. It recurred from the last FF6 event that also had a Jump Start.

ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."
Well that's just awesome then! Halfway through diving Fran and want to get started on other characters :D

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Is there any indication at all of what's actually going to be on the Crystal Tower banner? I know not to expect the same stuff JP had, but do we know if it's SSB+ or what kind of pool it's going to have? Is it just going to be a giant pile of like every random SB?

ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."
afaik it's something like a pool of 500 with 50%+ being SSBs and then diminishing percentages for USBs, CSBs, LMRs, and OSBs.

e: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/114492-final-fantasy-record-keeper/75808922

iamsosmrt
Jun 14, 2008

Aside from the selection options, the Crystal Tower and Gem only draws are basically the same pool of relics right?

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



Ugh, that pool is pretty gross. Seems like really high odds of just getting trash SSBs. I do want Lulu's + ice armor really bad, though.

Also there's another dungeon lucky draw before that banner, right?

iPodschun
Dec 29, 2004

Sherlock House

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

Also there's another dungeon lucky draw before that banner, right?
There's a DU lucky on 10/10 with III, V, and VII relics. Crystal Tower draw is on the 4th. Relic selection for both tonight's gem draw ends on the 12th so the Crystal Tower selection might be the same way. You can do the gem draw, Crystal Tower draw, and the DU lucky draw before selecting your relics.

To update my earlier post: The datamined announcement got changed, according to https://www.reddit.com/r/FFRecordKeeper/comments/72pgd3/gemonly_draw_starts_927_600pm_pdt/

"The select Relics in this 11x Relic Draw will only include those that have appeared in the game up to the challenge event, Scouring the Depths (June 2017)." is what the announcement now says so I think we're going to end up with the same list that JP got.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!
Reddit reminded me that JP had a twitter campaign going on during their 30th fest, where you'd get a stamina refill once per day just for clicking on a link (not actually having to tweet). So we had thousands more stamina during the fest with which to grind, and I still baaarely cleared out the casino. At the rate I'm getting chips I'll have to spend like 50 mythril to get everything. Game's really pissing me off lately.

Pander
Oct 9, 2007

Fear is the glue that holds society together. It's what makes people suppress their worst impulses. Fear is power.

And at the end of fear, oblivion.



I don't value clearing out the casino (or the fest rewards) enough to throw myth refreshes at it.

Myth is for relics alone.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Pander posted:

I don't value clearing out the casino (or the fest rewards) enough to throw myth refreshes at it.

Myth is for relics alone.

Most of the stuff I don't care about, but the MC3s are pretty limited and valuable, the 6* accessory is one-of-a-kind, and Divine Cross is the equivalent of 22 major orbs, which, god drat that's a lot to waste on not pulling it.

Essentially, DeNA screwed over global again. JP didn't have to use mythrils for refreshes.

Schwartzcough fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Sep 28, 2017

Kumog
Dec 28, 2006
Am I your god?
2/11 on the gem draw. Rinoa CSB, Gladiolus SSB.

suck it DeNA, you remove chains and I GET ONE I NEEDED ANYWAY.

And VoF picked up finally.

KPC_Mammon
Jan 23, 2004

Ready for the fashy circle jerk

Pander posted:

I don't value clearing out the casino (or the fest rewards) enough to throw myth refreshes at it.

Myth is for relics alone.

I'd agree with you if the casino didn't have 5* motes and if we didn't have the ability to go tiny bee/11 on what was one of the biggest banners of the year.

Considering how valuable characters like Shadow can be without any relics at all once you legend dive them I'm all for using mythril to get those motes.

Prav
Oct 29, 2011

they really hosed us with this festival

rabidsquid
Oct 11, 2004

LOVES THE KOG


thats true, since they gave out free stuff them not accounting for a change that will make it impossible to get some rewards is good

pichupal
Mar 23, 2013

Poochy ain't Stupid.
I might be.
With the Gem Draw Selection announced, we might have an idea of what we'll have available on our Crystal Tower Selection (The Mythril pick coming later). Bolded changed relics.

Missing from Gem Draw Selection:

FFI: Sarah (replacing Echo)
FFII: Minwu (replacing Leila)
FFIII: CoD
FFIV: Kain (replacing Porom)
FFV: Krile
FFVI: Terra (replacing Edgar)
FFVII: Aerith
FFVIII: Fujin (replacing Seifer)
FFIX: Beatrix (replacing Freya)
FFX: Nothing? (replacing Lulu; Missing bursts are BSB2s for Yuna and Auron which aren't included, and Braska which was released after the Gogo V Event)
FFXI: Curilla and Prishe.
FFXII: Larsa (replacing Penelo)
FFXIII: Vanille
FFXIV: Y'shtola (replacing Thancred 1)
FFT: Orlandeau

Some surprising swaps - Sarah, Larsa, Y'shtola are all amazing healing bursts for the Mblink, Astra and Bubble respectively. Fujin has a nice support/wind magic BSB and Beatriz is a nice Imperil Holy user on someone with a dualcast knight LM2. Not sure what's happening with FFX and FFXI, whether XI is getting two picks or if FFX is getting Yuna 2, Auron 2 or Braska.

Honestly surprised about Y'shtola not being on the Gem Draw. I'd imagine a few people would've paid to pick her.

pichupal fucked around with this message at 03:00 on Sep 28, 2017

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Schwartzcough posted:

Reddit reminded me that JP had a twitter campaign going on during their 30th fest, where you'd get a stamina refill once per day just for clicking on a link (not actually having to tweet). So we had thousands more stamina during the fest with which to grind, and I still baaarely cleared out the casino. At the rate I'm getting chips I'll have to spend like 50 mythril to get everything. Game's really pissing me off lately.

Also apparently the gold knights are supposed to always drop chips, but they don't.

bilperkins2
Nov 22, 2004

Fashion for Dogz
:france:

pichupal posted:

Honestly surprised about Y'shtola not being on the Gem Draw. I'd imagine a few people would've paid to pick her.

The image they used for the FFXIV banner when selecting relics has Y'shtola on it, but no Y'sh relic in there.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

pichupal posted:

With the Gem Draw Selection announced, we might have an idea of what we'll have available on our Crystal Tower Selection (The Mythril pick coming later). Bolded changed relics.

Missing from Gem Draw Selection:

FFI: Sarah (replacing Echo)
FFII: Minwu (replacing Leila)
FFIII: CoD
FFIV: Kain (replacing Porom)
FFV: Krile
FFVI: Terra (replacing Edgar)
FFVII: Aerith
FFVIII: Fujin (replacing Seifer)
FFIX: Beatrix (replacing Freya)
FFX: Nothing? (Missing bursts are BSB2s for Yuna and Auron which aren't included, and Braska which was released after the Gogo V Event)
FFXI: Curilla and Prishe.
FFXII: Larsa (replacing Penelo)
FFXIII: Vanille
FFXIV: Y'shtola (replacing Thancred 1)
FFT: Orlandeau

Some surprising swaps - Sarah, Larsa, Y'shtola are all amazing healing bursts for the Mblink, Astra and Bubble respectively. Fujin has a nice support/wind magic BSB and Beatriz is a nice Imperil Holy user on someone with a dualcast knight LM2. Not sure what's happening with FFX and FFXI, whether XI is getting two picks or if FFX is getting Yuna 2, Auron 2 or Braska.

Honestly surprised about Y'shtola not being on the Gem Draw. I'd imagine a few people would've paid to pick her.

The only one I was planning on picking was Porom BSB for a faithga medica, and of course they removed all those. I went from having 3 dupes to:
Sarah, Minwu, Desch (dupe), Kain (dupe), Krile, Terra (dupe), Aerith (dupe), Fujin (dupe), Beatrix (dupe), ???, Curilla, Larsa, Vanille (dupe), Y'shtola (dupe), TG Cid (dupe)

9 God-drat dupes! On the whole the banner is better, but somehow they managed to gently caress me personally right in the rear end. Everything I hear about this game lately is just making me angry.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Fister Roboto posted:

Also apparently the gold knights are supposed to always drop chips, but they don't.

In my experience, the top two always do and the bottom two never do. It's so regular that I assumed it was the intended behavior.

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

Prism posted:

In my experience, the top two always do and the bottom two never do. It's so regular I assumed that was intended behavior.

I've definitely seen them not drop any chips at all.

Zurai
Feb 13, 2012


Wait -- I haven't even voted in this game yet!

Fister Roboto posted:

Also apparently the gold knights are supposed to always drop chips, but they don't.

Nope. Not at all. That's completely false, whoever told you that didn't know what they were talking about.

Also, I completely forgot about the twitter refresh for like 90% of this fest in JP and still cleared out the casino with several days left.

Grizzled Patriarch
Mar 27, 2014

These dentures won't stop me from tearing out jugulars in Thunderdome.



I thought X was Lulu's BSB? I kinda wanted that +ice armor, that blows if they replaced it. They actually put some better stuff on there overall, but I have a lot of them.

Terra's BSB sucks, right?

Slightly tempted by Fujin since I have her OSB and her BSB would probably be nice to have for Golem, but eh.

Schwartzcough
Aug 12, 2009

Don't tease the Octopus, kids!

Zurai posted:

Nope. Not at all. That's completely false, whoever told you that didn't know what they were talking about.

Also, I completely forgot about the twitter refresh for like 90% of this fest in JP and still cleared out the casino with several days left.

And some lucky people might do that. Unlucky fucks like me, however, barely cleared it in JP using every refresh, and so far in global I've pulled 180/1032 prizes after spending every stamina on the fest. I'm not going to be even close to clearing it. I'd need like 30 stamina refreshes.

Edit: And the upper right knight always drops chips, so each GROUP of knight will always drop chips. However, the other 3 rarely do (I've gotten two drops from the same group twice so far). This is the same as it was in JP.

Mischalaniouse
Nov 7, 2009

*ribbit*
My pull was kinda disappointing, Steiner BSB, Sabin SSB, and duplicate Mog BSB . I chose Onion Knight BSB because a lot of people were recommending it and it seems useful.

Prism
Dec 22, 2007

yospos

Fister Roboto posted:

I've definitely seen them not drop any chips at all.

Huh. Weird. I actually kept track when I saw that I was only getting chips from half of them, and that's been true 100% of the time I've seen gold knights, with no variation.

Sesq
Nov 8, 2002

I wish I could tear him apart!
I got 3/11, Dupe Aphmau Burst and kinda sucky status ailment supers for Irvine and Thancred.

I haven't made my selection yet. Top of the list is Ayame's Burst, but I'm also gunning for that (among others) on Banner 4. If I get it, I'll pick either Bartz's water BSB, or maybe Bio Chainsaw for funsies and FF6 synergy.

Chillgamesh
Jul 29, 2014

bilperkins2 posted:

The image they used for the FFXIV banner when selecting relics has Y'shtola on it, but no Y'sh relic in there.

No Terra on the big "FFVI, featuring Terra" banner either :shepicide: meanwhile the FF5 one features not one but two butts

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




So it sounds like I can not worry about dropping real money on this banner, huh?

Bahumaut
Apr 6, 2009
Yeah, this whole issue with the chips is going to really annoy me. I sent a message to DENA, because it really is stupid that we have to rely on luck to get golden knights to even show up, and then more luck that they will drop more than one set of chips. I'm actually under 20k and other than doing the crystal tower and the Multiplayer fights, all my stamina has been going into getting orbs. I'll probably start using those chips and then start using stamina to refresh near the end and once I get all top prizes just be done. I can live without some 3* motes, but 4* and above are just too important to miss out on.

Hogama
Sep 3, 2011
My gem pull netted me a dupe Sephiroth OSB (had just picked that up from the Luckies, too), but also Vivi BSB2 and Cyan USB.
Not sure exactly what I want from the selection, though I may lean towards Maria since I've missed that every time.
Actually kind of wanted Freya's BSB from Crystal Tower (knowing full well it's not optimal) to go with her enWind SSB but I guess it wasn't meant to be. :smith:

Benthalus
Jul 5, 2002

Gem-only 2/11: Lann OSB and Porom SSB. Underwhelming.

Since there aren't any insta-cast healer BSBs on the selection, my next need is any Earth damage. My only sources right now are Bartz USB with R2 Quake Strike and Guy SSB. Maria has a stellar BSB or I have Rinoa's en-earth SSB and could grab her BSB, but I'm thinking it might just be easiest to go with Bartz BSB1 for the earth command since my teams are focused on physical damage. I can wait until the last day but I doubt I'll pull anything else as useful.

Anyone else having trouble deciding on a BSB selection?

pichupal
Mar 23, 2013

Poochy ain't Stupid.
I might be.

Grizzled Patriarch posted:

I thought X was Lulu's BSB? I kinda wanted that +ice armor, that blows if they replaced it. They actually put some better stuff on there overall, but I have a lot of them.

Terra's BSB sucks, right?

Slightly tempted by Fujin since I have her OSB and her BSB would probably be nice to have for Golem, but eh.

The way it worked in Japan was that all the relics not included on the Gem Selection list were on the Crystal Tower list. So Lulu was moved to the Gem selection list, but nothing was actually moved out of the FFX list, so all of the bursts are available. Braska's BSB is likely, although it breaks the rule a bit since it's debut event was after the Scouring the Depths FFV event.

And yes, Terra BSB sucks.

Infidel Castro posted:

So it sounds like I can not worry about dropping real money on this banner, huh?

I mean, if this is more a decision based on if you have the money and want to spend. There are still pretty god picks here like Onion or Raines BSB, it's just lacking the chase worthy Healing BSBs now.

Benthalus posted:

Gem-only 2/11: Lann OSB and Porom SSB. Underwhelming.

Since there aren't any insta-cast healer BSBs on the selection, my next need is any Earth damage. My only sources right now are Bartz USB with R2 Quake Strike and Guy SSB. Maria has a stellar BSB or I have Rinoa's en-earth SSB and could grab her BSB, but I'm thinking it might just be easiest to go with Bartz BSB1 for the earth command since my teams are focused on physical damage. I can wait until the last day but I doubt I'll pull anything else as useful.

Anyone else having trouble deciding on a BSB selection?

Maria is the best magic Earth Burst, and Yang is the best Physical Earth Burst (for DPS with burst commands, at least. Ingus will come ahead once Earthbringer arrives in a few months). I strongly recommend against Rinoa 1 and Bartz 1.

I'm personally not sure what to pick either. Golem and Living Flame were the toughest for me, so I've considered Edge and Alphinaud for my picks but I'm not sure if I want to spend the gems yet. I'm lucky enough to have some of the favourites like OK and Raines. Also considered Edea and Ayame - my Ice team isn't great either and I heard the worst 4* Magicite boss is the Ice-weak Tiamat. Also considered Firion for the Instant Mblink, but I might hold off on making the draw (and selection) until after seeing how fest banners go.

pichupal fucked around with this message at 03:34 on Sep 28, 2017

ceaselessfuture
Apr 9, 2005

"I'm thirty," I said. "I'm five years too old to lie to myself and call it honor."
Uh holy poo poo, Larsa BSB? Even though I got Iris', I'm still extremely interested in a wrathable healer. Bonus points for me already having both his SSBs.

The only other interesting one for me now remains CoD, but I will probably pass it up honestly.

Alxprit
Feb 7, 2015

<click> <click> What is it with this dancing?! Bouncing around like fools... I would have thought my own kind at least would understand the seriousness of our Adventurer's Guild!

I like how the last time the Roulette was around, people complained about the Knights because they easily maxed out the roulette and didn't want them when they wanted orbs, and now we have the opposite problem. Theoretically, anyway. I still don't know how the rest of the fest will go, but I won't make claims until we're actually at the end.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




pichupal posted:

I mean, if this is more a decision based on if you have the money and want to spend. There are still pretty god picks here like Onion or Raines BSB, it's just lacking the chase worthy Healing BSBs now.


Thankfully I got both of those during the 2nd Anniversary event so I'm good!

Fister Roboto
Feb 21, 2008

I've got 15 days to decide whether a guaranteed Agrias BSB is worth $30 or not.

Infidel Castro
Jun 8, 2010

Again and again
Your face reminds me of a bleak future
Despite the absence of hope
I give you this sacrifice




Fister Roboto posted:

I've got 15 days to decide whether a guaranteed Agrias BSB is worth $30 or not.

It's nice to have for an AoE Holy Imperil but I don't think I'd plop $30 for it.

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pichupal
Mar 23, 2013

Poochy ain't Stupid.
I might be.

Fister Roboto posted:

I've got 15 days to decide whether a guaranteed Agrias BSB is worth $30 or not.

If you want it for the Imperil Holy, Beatrix is likely going to be on the Crystal Tower Draw.

If you want it for Agrias, it appears on the next two Tactics events on really good banners along with her LMR and USB.

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