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Duke Chin posted:what does $1.09 get me these days after being adjusted for inflation? The freedom to blink in a slightly asynchronous fashion.
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Good poo poo from Aaron Rodgers. https://www.instagram.com/p/BZjpUNpF7iA/
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facialimpediment posted:Good poo poo from Aaron Rodgers. That's outstanding
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Counterpoint: Lee was a highly intelligent and aggressive general who was an expert at identifying the psychology of his opponent, and only very rarely made truly disastrous decisions (Picket's Charge). He was hands off, but that was because he knew how to delegate to his typically subordinates, particularly Stonewall Jackson and Longstreet (Though obviously this was far less effective after Jackson died and Longstreet was transfered west). Counter counter point. His aggression hastened the destruction of his army, particularly in genius moves like deciding to invade Maryland. He demonstrates tactical prowess at Chancellorsville but if he had any operational or strategic knowledge he could have done even better by doing basic things such as conducting reconnaissance and making maps or establishing worthwhile staffs. Despite his engineering experience, his army had no engineer corps to speak of, weak artillery and negligible comm, logistics, and Intel. For four months before Chancellorsville he and his generals sat idle instead of scouting or doing much of anything. Jackson even died, shot by his own men, while on a night time recon, because he had maps and no knowledge of the terrain. Chancellorsville may have demonstrated some brilliant maneuvering but he came out worse overall then the federals; he could afford his casualties far less than they could. He was not delegative, he was hand cuffed by his own concept of gentlemanly conduct. There was a serious hesitation to hold generals accountable for poor performance, as not to offend their honor. After Gettysburg he wrote "I hope the official reports will protect the reputation of every officer." At Malvern Hill he gave the responsibility for assessing the effects of confederate artillery and thus signaling the general assault to the brigadier general located on the far right of his army; who could neither observe it nor communicate the order to the rest the army effectively. When Hood was arrested by Evans, Lee did not interfere or rule on what his subordinates were doing. When Antietam started, he asked Hood to apologize to Evans so that he could be released to lead his men. When Hood refused, Lee compromised by having the arrest temporarily suspended.
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Still better than McClellan.
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MRC48B posted:Still better than McClellan. Well if he had only had more men...
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MRC48B posted:Still better than McClellan. McClellan was an excellent raiser and trainer of Armies. But that was about it. Grant/Sherman knew how to both appear to be the approachable and humane commanders while making the necessary calls to USE those Armies on the field.
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The only good Civil War general was ShermanGeneral Sherman posted:War is cruelty. There is no use trying to reform it. The crueler it is, the sooner it will be over That dude hosed
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milk milk lemonade posted:That dude hosed That was a good quote, but you really can't quote that without the rest quote:You cannot qualify war in harsher terms than I will. War is cruelty, and you cannot refine it; and those who brought war into our country deserve all the curses and maledictions a people can pour out. I know I had no hand in making this war, and I know I will make more sacrifices today than any of you to secure peace. But you cannot have peace and a division of our country. If the United States submits to a division now, it will not stop, but will go on until we reap the fate of Mexico, which is eternal war. The United States does and must assert its authority, wherever it once had power; for, if it relaxes one bit to pressure, it is gone, and I believe that such is the national feeling. He was responding to criticism from the citizens of Atlanta who were (naturally) very upset that he planned to burn the city, and he basically said "You helped pursue this war, you helped supply the armies wrecked and burning in the North, and now that it is turned upon you, you cannot take it? Please."
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CommieGIR posted:That was a good quote, but you really can't quote that without the rest God if wasn't for his treatment of native Americans he would be the Saint of War.
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MRC48B posted:Still better than McClellan. Yea you right. Like I said, not saying he's the worst general ever or the worst general of the ACW, but that, his military legacy is an aspect that is embellished and deified like everything else about him in the context of the Lost Cause and l that
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CommieGIR posted:That was a good quote, but you really can't quote that without the rest https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman Nickname(s) "Cump" "Uncle Billy" (by his troops)
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Mr. Mambold posted:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Tecumseh_Sherman Yup, his guys loved him.
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LingcodKilla posted:God if wasn't for his treatment of native Americans he would be the Saint of War. I mean... isn't he still?
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good ol' cump
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Chichevache posted:I mean... isn't he still? The best Saint of War: The one who realized it was an evil tool that brought only misery and pain, and didn't glorify it.
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He's the God of War. Who are we to question his deeds?
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CommieGIR posted:That was a good quote, but you really can't quote that without the rest Out of all the major players in the American civil war, he's the only one I'd like to meet. Probably call me an idiot.
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FastestGunAlive posted:Counter counter point. His aggression hastened the destruction of his army, particularly in genius moves like deciding to invade Maryland. He demonstrates tactical prowess at Chancellorsville but if he had any operational or strategic knowledge he could have done even better by doing basic things such as conducting reconnaissance and making maps or establishing worthwhile staffs. Despite his engineering experience, his army had no engineer corps to speak of, weak artillery and negligible comm, logistics, and Intel. For four months before Chancellorsville he and his generals sat idle instead of scouting or doing much of anything. Jackson even died, shot by his own men, while on a night time recon, because he had maps and no knowledge of the terrain. Chancellorsville may have demonstrated some brilliant maneuvering but he came out worse overall then the federals; he could afford his casualties far less than they could. Fair enough, you're clearly more well-read on the subject than I am, and I'll defer to your expertise (though I still think Lee was pretty good, though certainly a far less strategic thinker than someone like Grant) You know who never gets enough respect though? George Thomas. He was a Virginian, like Lee, who could have easily fought for the Confederacy. But he stayed with the Union, fought under Grant in the West, and was one of the only commanders in the entire war to destroy an opposing army in the field at Nashville. Dude owned.
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He'd call all of us idiots, accurately.
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I think Bragg was a cool dude and great general.
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John Schofield is my beard idol, but makes me glad I still have a full head of hair.
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General Thomas is criminally underrated.
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Apologies for the lateness of this particular reply... Immanentized posted:Effort post from hotel bar: RE: OSCP: That is flattering, but also true. It took me a year of "I'll study this material when i'm bored" followed by 4 month's worth of active lab time where my mindset was "I will dedicate every second of my free time to pwning these boxes in this lab so I can pass on the first try." to pass the test and earn an OSCP designation... If I had a wife, she'd hate me for the amount of time I spent on this. I feel like I should mention for the GiP crowd that all of the lab fees were billed from Gibraltar, and that my actual physical certification letter / package was mailed to me from a lady in Israel. I'm probably on some sort of list now. Immanentized, how do you feel about the OSCE and OSWE certs that offsec also offers? OSCP doesn't go nearly deep enough into true greybeard exploit development like I've heard OSCE does... quote:The best thing the US has going for it is that the world tech backbone goes through us. Those backdoors aren't going anywhere and we are capable of working up some scary rear end poo poo on short notice when we call our allies in to help. Most other actors operate in a vacuum completely unaware of each other's ability, and mutually distrustful of anyone else, this allows for complex and impactful hits, but no real ability to carry out coordinated moves. Agreed. Tiny fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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Tiny posted:Apologies for the lateness of this particular reply... I'm disappointed that OSWE isn't Offensive Security Weaponized Expert
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Hugh Hefner is dead.
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I'm from new Zealand and I say Sherman owned like gently caress
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shyduck posted:Hugh Hefner is dead. dammit, I was coming to post this https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/27/hugh-hefner-iconic-founder-of-playboy-has-died-at-age-91.html
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shyduck posted:Hugh Hefner is dead. He led an insanely disgusting life and most of those bitches were dime store hookers Rest in piss
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milk milk lemonade posted:He led an insanely disgusting life and most of those bitches were dime store hookers Someone's gotta to do it.
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shyduck posted:Hugh Hefner is dead. For all intents and purposes he outlived his empire, too.
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Larry Flynt is the true print smut hero
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All pants are to be flown half mast.
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Tiny posted:Apologies for the lateness of this particular reply... I feel that anything organized and issued by that consortium is leaps and bounds above the competition, and I cannot speak comprehensively to the other two, as I've only had interaction with a few OSCP duders. From what I remember reading the OSCE is a civilian capstone sort of program, and OSWE is only useful if you're in the field to begin with as a professional and corporate boost to previously established street cred. The individuals that succeed in this level of operation and knowledge are the people that have access to a regional-class lab, a home lab, or a really diverse professional and personal network in the field. I DO appreciate how OffSec doesn't get as hung up on prior experience or clearance as the other issuers. In my experience, I've become pretty jaded about the way certifications are implemented and used to pull the ladder up behind people these days, sort of like an unofficial union barrier. I think SANS is a definite exception in that they walk the walk and talk the talk, but the entry level in terms of cost and pre-established ability is really, really high. Basically, your Joe Blow from NetOps normally won''t be able to get his CISSP, CISA, CEH, CISM, COMPTIA+ and be able to operate effectively in anything beyond intermediate blue team/ 2LoD activities. In my current assurance role, I'm sick of veterans and ex-FBI getting shooed into management and executive spots on bravado and impressive-seeming credentials, but with 0 time behind a console. Honestly, it's probably why the state of cybersecurity is so lovely, as we're putting dudes with organizational aversion to admitting fault or exposure into sensitive roles that require huge amounts of collaboration and bridge-building. I left the hands on field about 2 years back, but I'm slowly coming back around to it. I'm considering a white-glove service for executives, surgeons, and public accountant firms that provide eye-opening information about just how vulnerable they are based on publicly accessible info, offer training that comes to people, rather than the other way around seems like it might be the way to go..
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CommieGIR posted:That was a good quote, but you really can't quote that without the rest Where's the letter he wrote to an acquaintance down there when said acquaintance was getting real gung-ho about the war and he was like "WE HAVE TRAINS ALL THE gently caress OVER AND YOU DUMB HICKS DONT EVEN HAVE SHOES"
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I got you, fam.quote:You people of the South don't know what you are doing. This country will be drenched in blood, and God only knows how it will end. It is all folly, madness, a crime against civilization! You people speak so lightly of war; you don't know what you're talking about. War is a terrible thing! You mistake, too, the people of the North. They are a peaceable people but an earnest people, and they will fight, too. They are not going to let this country be destroyed without a mighty effort to save it … Besides, where are your men and appliances of war to contend against them? The North can make a steam engine, locomotive, or railway car; hardly a yard of cloth or pair of shoes can you make. You are rushing into war with one of the most powerful, ingeniously mechanical, and determined people on Earth — right at your doors. You are bound to fail. Only in your spirit and determination are you prepared for war. In all else you are totally unprepared, with a bad cause to start with. At first you will make headway, but as your limited resources begin to fail, shut out from the markets of Europe as you will be, your cause will begin to wane. If your people will but stop and think, they must see in the end that you will surely fail.
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lol your country is so hosed https://twitter.com/CNN/status/913217537218957312
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Acebuckeye13 posted:Fair enough, you're clearly more well-read on the subject than I am, and I'll defer to your expertise (though I still think Lee was pretty good, though certainly a far less strategic thinker than someone like Grant) Nah I'm fairly new to studying the war in depth. Some of the poo poo that's gone down the last few months has inspired me to start reading up on it to counter all the lost cause trash. Your arguments are valid and we could go back and forth forever on it. Totally agree with you on Thomas, that dude is a bad rear end. I had never heard of him before these past few months. Definitely years ahead of anyone else in his ability to lead, equip, train, and organize. I intend to find some books focused on him and learn even more.
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Hot Karl Marx posted:lol your country is so hosed The bar is so insanely low now. A loving reality TV personality is in the White House. He used to call reporters and pretend to be a PR manager who didn't exist. What the gently caress
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