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ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632
Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

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Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Office Pig posted:

Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

As an Objectivist, he's willing to stand tall and proud as an individual... so he can reach Trump's chocolate starfish with his tongue a bit better.

Zil
Jun 4, 2011

Satanically Summoned Citrus


Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632
Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

Ryan must have a pee tape as well.

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632
Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

I think the leadership he is referring to is Trump's ability to steer the media narrative away from the horrible and unpopular poo poo that his insane ideology requires he force through into law.

He'll pass a huge giveaway to the rich that explodes the deficit before anyone notices because Trump called for firebombing of mosques or something.

Taerkar
Dec 7, 2002

kind of into it, really

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632
Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

Is anyone really surprised that Paul Ryan is an accelerationist? Gotta collect all of the bankrupt ideas.

Mustached Demon
Nov 12, 2016

Taerkar posted:

Is anyone really surprised that Paul Ryan is an accelerationist? Gotta collect all of the bankrupt ideas.

If a Koch told him to piss on Ayn Rands grave he would.

His spine is a bunch of nylon wrapped around rolls of cash.

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Pembroke Fuse posted:

(Is this a good post? I can't tell.)

three stars

SpaceDrake
Dec 22, 2006

I can't avoid filling a game with awful memes, even if I want to. It's in my bones...!
Look at this.

https://twitter.com/CBSNews/status/912689727513513985

Look at it. Don't avert your eyes. Look at it.

Puerto Rico should be the focus of the biggest humanitarian and development effort since the Dust Bowl & New Deal, and instead this is happening. I keep having to bite back some choice words since the Internet remembers everything.



So many people in Puerto Rico are going to die and there is nothing we as citizens can do about it. This feeling is singular.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

R. Guyovich posted:

three stars

Out of what? Like, three stars out of all the stars in the observable universe? The range man, what's the range?

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Pembroke Fuse posted:

Out of what? Like, three stars out of all the stars in the observable universe? The range man, what's the range?

They'll never tell.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Office Pig posted:

https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/913224469019205632
Basically passing the buck off onto the senate but goddamn how much of an asslicking dog do you have to be to continue on with this farce.

Republicans in Congress have lost a lot of what little credibility they had left among their base over the past couple months. Ryan's desperately grasping for whatever wreckage will keep him afloat.

shrike82
Jun 11, 2005

Mischalaniouse
Nov 7, 2009

*ribbit*

Something? What could it be? :allears:

RuanGacho
Jun 20, 2002

"You're gunna break it!"

Mischalaniouse posted:

Something? What could it be? :allears:

Goblins.

Sent by Obama.

In the Study.

plogo
Jan 20, 2009
happy birthday manoli!

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

lol

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

It rhymes with fapitalism.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Pembroke Fuse posted:

It rhymes with fapitalism.

Finally an explanation redditors will understand

WhiskeyJuvenile
Feb 15, 2002

by Nyc_Tattoo
https://twitter.com/samstein/status/913365876187045888

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

Flake is gonna lose his primary right?

Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Badger of Basra posted:

Flake is gonna lose his primary right?

Depends how much republicans are tired of Trump.

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


apparently fox news has been whining that jimmy kimmel has been slagging the graham-cassidy bill on his show with facts courtesy of schumer

quote:

"Think about this. For months, a network evening show has been talking to one side of the aisle to get their talking points on a bill. If you want confirmation that the so-called mainstream media is actually the opposition party in bed with the Democrats, there you have it," the Fox News host said.

:ironicat:

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Pembroke Fuse posted:

It rhymes with fapitalism.

Are Norway, Sweden, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, and New Zealand no longer capitalist countries?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Are Norway, Sweden, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, and New Zealand no longer capitalist countries?

Are you implying income inequality doesn't exist in those countries?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

MizPiz posted:

Are you implying income inequality doesn't exist in those countries?

The article quoted specifically mentions most Western economies and excludes those.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

The article quoted specifically mentions most Western economies and excludes those.

They also excluded Greece, Poland, and various other Eastern European and Balkan states.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

Are Norway, Sweden, Japan, Korea, Taiwan, Canada, Denmark, Iceland, and New Zealand no longer capitalist countries?

Countries with strong welfare states tend to have lower Gini coefficients. This isn't always the case, but tends to be the general trend (although I see that he does mention France).

Capitalism and its political allies do work to erode the welfare state over time however (see defunding of NHS in the UK, attempts to privatize education in Sweden, privatization of parts of the energy sector in Canada, etc).

I found the article, but can't seem to find the original data it's based on, though.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

MizPiz posted:

They also excluded Greece, Poland, and various other Eastern European and Balkan states.

And they are also capitalist states...?

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Pembroke Fuse posted:

Countries with strong welfare states tend to have lower Gini coefficients. This isn't always the case, but tends to be the general trend (although I see that he does mention France).

Capitalism and its political allies do work to erode the welfare state over time however (see defunding of NHS in the UK, attempts to privatize education in Sweden, privatization of parts of the energy sector in Canada, etc).

I found the article, but can't seem to find the original data it's based on, though.

Agreed, but I was just making fun of the guy who was quoting the Professor saying, "Most Western economies lead to large wealth inequalities. But we haven't been able to identify a single factor that is present in all of them that has statistically significant impacts on their different performance." and responding to him with, "Lol, it's capitalism you moron."

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

I know your entire gimmick is 'willfully dense trolling' but countries with stronger welfare states don't tend to have as many problems with income inequality as those that don't do as much for their citizens. In modern political rhetoric, at least in the US, those states are often considered 'more socialist' due to the stronger social safety net.

I could certainly be wrong, but this is a very simple and surface level reading of the single quote you decided to post like 6 or so times arguing against trying to score cool points or whatever it is you do when you decide to misinterpret something on a technicality.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Captain Monkey posted:

I know your entire gimmick is 'willfully dense trolling' but countries with stronger welfare states don't tend to have as many problems with income inequality as those that don't do as much for their citizens. In modern political rhetoric, at least in the US, those states are often considered 'more socialist' due to the stronger social safety net.

I could certainly be wrong, but this is a very simple and surface level reading of the single quote you decided to post like 6 or so times arguing against trying to score cool points or whatever it is you do when you decide to misinterpret something on a technicality.

It's not a technicality. Read the paper.

Literally no economist in the world would call Japan, Canada, or Taiwan a "socialist economy."

Words mean things and in an academic study trying to identify international economic common threads with statistical impacts on inequality, they are not using "political rhetoric that is often considered accurate in the United States."

Saying, "What an idiot this professor is! The common thread is capitalism." is surface level reading and not understanding the actual problems being discussed.

You can never make an effective change if you don't even know what is being discussed.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's not a technicality. Read the paper.

Literally no economist in the world would call Japan, Canada, or Taiwan a "socialist economy."

Saying, "What an idiot this professor is! The common thread is capitalism." is surface level reading and not understanding the actual problems being discussed.

You can never make an effective change if you don't even know what is being discussed.

The study was specifically focusing on European countries. You clearly don't care about the data as much as you pretend to.

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

MizPiz posted:

The study was specifically focusing on European countries. You clearly don't care about the data as much as you pretend to.

It was examining why most Western Countries have different performances. The answer is not capitalism, because capitalism exists in non-western countries and some Western countries don't see GINI coefficients as high as others.

Calling the Professor an idiot for not saying capitalism is very silly and implies a surface-level understanding.

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

It's not a technicality. Read the paper.

Literally no economist in the world would call Japan, Canada, or Taiwan a "socialist economy."

Words mean things and in an academic study trying to identify international economic common threads with statistical impacts on inequality, they are not using "political rhetoric that is often considered accurate in the United States."

Saying, "What an idiot this professor is! The common thread is capitalism." is surface level reading and not understanding the actual problems being discussed.

You can never make an effective change if you don't even know what is being discussed.

it is a good thing you were here to police a throwaway post on somethingawful.com, the international economic community would never survive without your policing of this thread.

thank for your service leon trotsky 2012

Badger of Basra
Jul 26, 2007

I don't think even the most hardcore tankie would say it's impossible to reduce inequality in a capitalist economy so I'm not sure what your point is. They would say it's impossible to eliminate it, because inequality is inherent in capitalism!

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Captain Monkey posted:

it is a good thing you were here to police a throwaway post on somethingawful.com, the international economic community would never survive without your policing of this thread.

thank for your service leon trotsky 2012

"I was wrong and didn't understand, but perhaps you were more wrong for noticing? Hmmm...?"

Yngwie Mangosteen
Aug 23, 2007

Badger of Basra posted:

I don't think even the most hardcore tankie would say it's impossible to reduce inequality in a capitalist economy so I'm not sure what your point is. They would say it's impossible to eliminate it, because inequality is inherent in capitalism!

Yeah, this is the reading literally any functional human being would've gotten from the post.


Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:

"I was wrong and didn't understand, but perhaps you were more wrong for noticing? Hmmm...?"

please re-read the posts calling you an idiot by me and other posters and you might figure out where you are wrong here. Probably not though.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
isnt arguments like this the whole point of the thunderdome thread

Motto
Aug 3, 2013

I hadn't realized that Janus was from Illinois, because ofc.

e: misread something

Motto fucked around with this message at 15:22 on Sep 28, 2017

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Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Thank you both for this story and quote, but also the presentation. Post is 10/10, would read again.

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