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If I wake the screen on my iOS 11 6S, the text messages notifications go away afterwards. This is irritating because I do have lift to wake enabled, and so it's very possible that I will receive notifications that end up not on the lock screen next time I look at my phone, just because my phone was inadvertently woken in the meantime. It doesn't happen if it was woken by another notification, though.
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Nostalgia4Dogges posted:If you wanna use a case and or screen protector then do so. If you don't want to, then don't. At the same time, you can wear a fanny pack if you want to, or not wear a fanny pack if you don't want to, but we'll still make fun of you if you choose to do so.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:02
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Protocol7 posted:Messages share option is also still there for me. Share me that cat.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:03
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A thought I had after using a couple older iPhones with the oleophobic coating gone: Do screen protectors remove/damage the oleophobic coating?
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Sep 27, 2017 22:04
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Phthisis posted:If I wake the screen on my iOS 11 6S, the text messages notifications go away afterwards. This is irritating because I do have lift to wake enabled, and so it's very possible that I will receive notifications that end up not on the lock screen next time I look at my phone, just because my phone was inadvertently woken in the meantime. It doesn't happen if it was woken by another notification, though. You can drag the lock screen up to pop out "older notifications" but I agree, notifications just keep getting worse and worse in iOS. Another fun bug: using Control Center to resume a podcast in Overcast doesn't seem to trigger the lock screen playback controls, and required a restart of Overcast for it to show up. Only happened once, so far...
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Sep 27, 2017 22:06
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enojy posted:You can drag the lock screen up to pop out "older notifications" but I agree, notifications just keep getting worse and worse in iOS. They do not appear below. They just vanish entirely. I'll try to take a screenshot of this next time it happens. It will still show the same list of notifications on the lock screen but with all the messages ones gone.
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Sep 27, 2017 22:25
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lelandjs posted:A thought I had after using a couple older iPhones with the oleophobic coating gone: Do screen protectors remove/damage the oleophobic coating? Not in my experience but the coating on the protectors themselves is usually of much poorer quality than what is on the phones actual screen.
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Sep 28, 2017 00:37
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Evis posted:The hardware just isn't built to handle much abuse. User error is going to happen and they just don't design for enough of it. Cases bring that up to an acceptable level for me. I should probably be using a BlackBerry or something but having access to the iOS App Store is nice. [quote="“Evis”" post="“476828936”"] I mean if it’s not in a case I inevitably shatter the screen from drops or whatever, not that that happens with a big case on it. [/quote] Fair enough I feel you. I wasn't trying to call you out or anything on it so I apologize if I came across harsh. Everyone has their own durability needs with their phones. I've found iPhones to be incredibly tough but honestly any number of my drops and knocks could've been a bad one.
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Sep 28, 2017 01:04
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The 8 is my first iPhone with a home button that doesn't actually click and almost a week later it's still wigging me the gently caress out. Between that and the incredibly satisfying clicks in the number picker I wish that the Taptic Engine were used in more places, like the keyboard. If Apple can nail the feel of a home button they should be able to figure out how to make it feel like I'm actually pressing keys on the keyboard.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:54
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So going to iOS 11 from a 6s 9.3.3, why when I delete an email while reading it does it automatically advance to the next email? This is dumb and I can't find anywhere to change it. Also the whole turning off Wifi/BT from Control Center and it really doesn't turn them "off" is infuriating.
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Sep 28, 2017 03:58
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lelandjs posted:The 8 is my first iPhone with a home button that doesn't actually click and almost a week later it's still wigging me the gently caress out. Between that and the incredibly satisfying clicks in the number picker I wish that the Taptic Engine were used in more places, like the keyboard. If Apple can nail the feel of a home button they should be able to figure out how to make it feel like I'm actually pressing keys on the keyboard.
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Sep 28, 2017 04:54
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spongeworthy posted:So going to iOS 11 from a 6s 9.3.3, why when I delete an email while reading it does it automatically advance to the next email? This is dumb and I can't find anywhere to change it. Yes, that bugs the poo poo out of me. I don't know how true they are but I have read about studies that show reduced sleep quality when subjected to close proximity WiFi signals so I have always put my phone in airplane mode while sleeping or just turned off WiFi so that is useless now. Again, I don't know the validity of those studies but I would still like the choice of actually turning things off easily ITYOOL 2017 and not having to go balls deep into a menu system to do it.
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Sep 28, 2017 05:10
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Your phone has a power button if you're scared of EMF. Also your house has a breaker panel so you can kill off that too.
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Sep 28, 2017 05:13
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rio posted:Yes, that bugs the poo poo out of me. I don't know how true they are but I have read about studies that show reduced sleep quality when subjected to close proximity WiFi signals so I have always put my phone in airplane mode while sleeping or just turned off WiFi so that is useless now. Again, I don't know the validity of those studies but I would still like the choice of actually turning things off easily ITYOOL 2017 and not having to go balls deep into a menu system to do it. I find it unacceptable that Apple knows drat good and well that department stores, marketers, and FISs can gain a lot of information from phones that simply have Wifi or BT enabled and not even connected, and they decide to make this hairbrained decision.
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Sep 28, 2017 05:32
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spongeworthy posted:I find it unacceptable that Apple knows drat good and well that department stores, marketers, and FISs can gain a lot of information from phones that simply have Wifi or BT enabled and not even connected, and they decide to make this hairbrained decision. They probably figure that A) the ability to gather information for the user with those sensors is worth enough to outweigh the risk of gathering information against the user, which makes sense given that B) the whole "hiding where you are in public" ship sailed, sank, got dredged up, made into a museum, then sunk again a while ago.
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Sep 28, 2017 05:48
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rio posted:Yes, that bugs the poo poo out of me. I don't know how true they are but I have read about studies that show reduced sleep quality when subjected to close proximity WiFi signals so I have always put my phone in airplane mode while sleeping or just turned off WiFi so that is useless now. Again, I don't know the validity of those studies but I would still like the choice of actually turning things off easily ITYOOL 2017 and not having to go balls deep into a menu system to do it. Are you for real? Come on man, don't spout that crap here. I thought we were smarter than that.
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Sep 28, 2017 05:50
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Michael Scott posted:I thought we were smarter than that.  Anywho, I've been having some troubles with my iPhone 7 after updating to iOS 11/11.0.1 - cellular data has become a problem. Every time I try to do something there is a huge pause before data starts flowing. Anyone else experienced this? Before iOS 11 the phone worked flawlessly on cellular data. I tried resetting network settings to no avail as well as a power cycle. I'd really enjoy not restoring but I suppose I could try that next.
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Sep 28, 2017 06:02
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Michael Scott posted:Are you for real? Come on man, don't spout that crap here. I thought we were smarter than that. I don't really care either way since I haven't read anything definitive or entirely convincing but it used to be easy enough to shut it off. I would at least like the option of being able to turn off my WiFi easily and the reason doesn't really matter.
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Sep 28, 2017 06:17
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The reason does matter though because I think the new behaviour makes a lot more sense most of the time.
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Sep 28, 2017 06:45
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How does a toggle meant to turn off a function that really leaves it on without telling you make sense?
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Sep 28, 2017 06:54
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dissss posted:The reason does matter though because I think the new behaviour makes a lot more sense most of the time. yes, it is so extremely logical that an off-switch doesn't actually turn anything off after all, I agree
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Sep 28, 2017 07:22
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rio posted:How does a toggle meant to turn off a function that really leaves it on without telling you make sense? Because chance are you don't actually want to turn wifi off just disconnect from whatever lovely network your phone has latched on to. ulvir posted:yes, it is so extremely logical that an off-switch doesn't actually turn anything off after all, I agree The question remains why do you want to turn it off in the first place?
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Sep 28, 2017 07:24
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What is even more stupid than the question posed above is that at 0500 the phone tries to reconnect to known networks.
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Sep 28, 2017 07:34
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I can see the logic behind that too (not that I necessarily agree with it)
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Sep 28, 2017 07:37
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lelandjs posted:The 8 is my first iPhone with a home button that doesn't actually click and almost a week later it's still wigging me the gently caress out. Between that and the incredibly satisfying clicks in the number picker I wish that the Taptic Engine were used in more places, like the keyboard. If Apple can nail the feel of a home button they should be able to figure out how to make it feel like I'm actually pressing keys on the keyboard. No option for haptic feedback on the keyboard was really weird to me coming to iOS after so long on Android. I don't care at all if it's better than standard Android haptic feedback or not, having it in any form would be fantastic.
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Sep 28, 2017 07:48
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dissss posted:Because chance are you don't actually want to turn wifi off just disconnect from whatever lovely network your phone has latched on to. This has got to be the most bizarre pair of sentences I've read this week. I press the switch that normally turns things off and on because I want to turn the functionality associated with that switch off or on. Whilst there may be a different thing involving that functionality that might be something I want to do sometimes, in this case the desire and action are pretty much completely normal. And just slipping that new thing in the place of the established thing that made sense before is a pretty terrible way to make me look positively on the enforced change.
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Sep 28, 2017 07:57
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Apple knows best  - giving you what most people actually want rather than what they think they want has always been the Apple way so I'm not sure why this surprises you.Anyway no one has answered as to why you'd actually want to turn WiFi off.
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Sep 28, 2017 08:10
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Because we want to? We don't want it on? Why is this so important to you? E: and since this was established functionality, and the change breaks the standard functionality of the off/on toggle, you've yet to give any reason that people would think this change makes sense or is intuitive, or is "what people actually want". iajanus fucked around with this message at 08:20 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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Sep 28, 2017 08:16
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It's perhaps not intuitive, but the new behaviour is definitely what most normies would prefer.
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Sep 28, 2017 09:04
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iajanus posted:Because we want to? We don't want it on? Why is this so important to you? The reason it's important is because the button should do what most people want the button to do. Obviously we think the new behavior makes more sense but I'm happy to be proven wrong. And please don't say RADIATION.
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Sep 28, 2017 09:15
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iajanus posted:Because we want to? We don't want it on? Why is this so important to you? Because most people only ever turn their Wi-Fi off when their phone has latched on to some lovely free Wi-Fi service that isn't working and it's a ham-fisted way of doing what they actually want to do, which is to just get off that particular network. Most people have pathetic data allowances so going day-to-day without using Wi-Fi isn't feasible; turning off their Wi-Fi and forgetting to turn it back on once they're out of range of the network they didn't want to be on can have a painful impact upon their data allowances. In that instance, it is what the majority of people want and it's pretty much par for the course with Apple.
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Sep 28, 2017 09:16
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dissss posted:The reason does matter though because I think the new behaviour makes a lot more sense most of the time. No it absolutely sucks if you live in a wifi dense university campus or urban area and regularly connect to a wifi network with multiple APs. The wifi isn't strong enough for a solid connection on the street but keeps trying and refuses to fallback to LTE. If you don't disable wifi totally you'll never have a connection unless you are in a building. I pretty much can't have wifi turned on at all unless I'm in a building.
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Sep 28, 2017 12:08
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Poppyseed Poundcake posted:No it absolutely sucks if you live in a wifi dense university campus or urban area and regularly connect to a wifi network with multiple APs. The wifi isn't strong enough for a solid connection on the street but keeps trying and refuses to fallback to LTE. If you don't disable wifi totally you'll never have a connection unless you are in a building. I pretty much can't have wifi turned on at all unless I'm in a building. Do you think your case is representative for the majority of iPhone users?
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Sep 28, 2017 13:03
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Is there a way to toggle WiFi calling via the control center? I used to turn off WiFi to avoid garbled calls when the WiFi is congested but that doesn't work in iOS 11. And no, sensible QoS at the router sadly isn't an option here.
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Sep 28, 2017 13:10
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LPG Giant posted:The reason it's important is because the button should do what most people want the button to do. Obviously we think the new behavior makes more sense but I'm happy to be proven wrong. Nobody has given any real reason that the new behaviour actually is what makes more sense or what most people want. As opposed to the multiple people who have expressed the simple view that the prior behaviour where the on off switch for wifi actually turns the wifi on and off is more logical and desired. Was literally anyone actually wanting to make this change? Christ, I've heard of apple fanboys just throwing themselves behind any apple choice but I've never seen this ridiculous an example.
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Sep 28, 2017 13:28
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Arguing that an off switch shouldn't turn things off is pretty amazing, particularly when it isn't explained and still appears to be an off switch.
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Sep 28, 2017 13:45
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I think it should be a preference, so you can select what the button does. I certainly prefer "Disconnect from current network" to "Turn off until I remember to turn on again", but hey, tyranny of the majority. Go write your congressperson.
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Sep 28, 2017 13:53
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While maybe it could have been implemented better, I think the new behavior makes the most sense.
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Sep 28, 2017 13:55
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Thermopyle posted:While maybe it could have been implemented better, I think the new behavior makes the most sense.  Also 3D Touch Settings icon -> WiFi -> off isn't that slow if you really want it off.
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And then we get back to the wonder that is 3d touch capable things with no hint that there's any possible result behind using it. Another garbage implementation.
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