|
RZApublican posted:Vote #1: The British Question
|
#
?
Sep 25, 2017 19:16
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 01:11 |
|
|
The first of the three conferences is concluded. On the British Question, returning the territory won by 38-2. On the Irish Question, maintaining an independent Ireland won 35-5. On the Algerian Question, staying out won 33-7. On the Mexican Question, approving the attack won 36-4. Canada: 1 x greatly please, 1 x slightly displease Australasia: 1 x slightly displease Delhi: 1 x slightly displease United States: 2 x please Republic of China: 2 x slightly please, 1 x slightly displease National France: 1 x displease Pacific States: 1 x please
|
|
#
?
Sep 27, 2017 06:11
|
|
|
Chapter Nineteen: Erin go Banzai (May 16 – July 16, 1941) With the Union of Britain defeated, Japan fulfilled its promise to the Icelandic population, allowing elections to go forward and restoring civilian control of the republic.  Japan also fulfilled a promise to Canada.  While Sphere troops still patrolled Britain, the entire island was transferred to the jurisdiction of Canada.  While the restoration of British independence would be a process that would mostly not involve Japan, Japan and Canada were both sure to secure fleet basing rights for their fleets, which would now be permanently based in Britain. Britain had surrendered before the battle ever reached the far north of Scotland, which meant that the facilities in Scapa Flow were mostly undamaged.  With the land war finished in Britain, the air war begun in earnest. While the Internationale did not have heavy bombers with the capability to destroy great amounts of industry, they did use medium bombers to bomb Entente military positions and to disperse leaflets exhorting the British to sabotage their occupiers.  Japanese interceptor fighters were dispatched from Quebec to Scotland, to the only intact airbase in Britain, where they would rest and prepare before deploying south to England.  The defeat of Britain had other significance, namely that Japanese naval construction was of a lower priority now that the Entente navies of Canada and Japan, along with the rapidly growing United States Navy, held virtually unquestioned control of the sealanes, though Internationale raiders would continue to make a nuisance of themselves throughout the Atlantic. Therefore, convoy construction became a higher priority than before, as supplying the now global Japanese military became a greater burden.   Canada had flirted with the concept of a union between Great Britain and Canada, but instead they decided to establish the United Kingdom, though any previous motherland-dominion relations were a thing of the past. The dominions and the UK were equals under the law.  The arriving Japanese air squadrons in England, along with the newly reformed Royal Army of Great Britain, contributed to the new defense scheme of Britain. Manchurian forces would later be deployed along the southern coast to provide a significant impediment to landing forces alongside the native British garrisons. Ultimately the true defense of Britain would be what it had been for centuries: the grand fleets of the Entente, now unquestionably dominant.  Or rather probably unquestionably dominant. The Communal Navy was significant and had subsumed a great deal of exiled Republican ships, though most of the Republican carriers had been sunk. In addition to the Communal Army, the German High Seas Fleet was only a short distance away in Ireland. Entente war planners did not expect that Ireland would manage to cooperate effectively with the Internationale on naval maneuvers, but it would be prudent to remove the threat anyway.     Another threat taken seriously was the risk of a land-based bomber campaign against the supply lines from North America, Africa and Asia to the new nexus of Entente military activity. Smaller air forces such as that of the Netherlands and Italy had enjoyed carte blanche to bomb England, but now the Imperial Japanese Army Air Service was responding in force to secure the skies of Britain.  Meanwhile, the governments of the Entente were closely watching developments in Britain. Japan’s handover of power to Canada had been one made possible by trust. If Canada allowed a government offensive to the Minseito to take hold in Britain, it would show the Japanese that they could not trust their allies to act properly. Luckily, the United Kingdom instituted a civilian government and not a military one, which was taken as a good sign across the Entente.  An even better sign came when a proposal to institute martial law in order to snuff out syndicalists who hadn’t fled to France was shot down.    The new British government would generally advance a policy of reconciliation, which was received well in those members of the Entente with influential socialist parties. However, the reversal of rural land reform which had been in place for almost twenty years was something of a chaotic affair, but only the Republic of China really protested.  In general, however, a sense of order and reconciliation reigned, and this was good news, as a massive French relief force had marshalled in Dunkirk. While they would not be able to cross the Channel successfully so long as the Entente armada was based in Britain, a sufficient amount of chaos and disruption in Britain may have provided an opening for them. The success that Japan found in its seizure of Britain carried with it a knowledge that France had mastered the same exact tactics and would ruthlessly exploit any opening it could find. The defense of Britain had to be airtight.  And so, it was time for the Entente to remove a threat. Ireland had not done anything particularly wrong to the Entente. They had aligned with Germany in order to protect themselves from the very Internationale whom the Entente was also working against. By all rights, Ireland should have been a partner for the Entente but the rulers of the nation were also veterans of the Easter Rising against the British Empire. Some progress had been made by Japan in convincing them of their good intentions, but the arrival of the German High Seas Fleet made the Irish government feel they had a stronger bargaining position, throwing a tremendous wrench into the proceedings. The Irish High Seas Fleet would not sink the Entente armada, but their mere existence provided a fleet-in-being challenge to the Entente control of the sea lanes. War sometimes demanded simple and blunt solutions, and while the Irish nation had a degree sympathy among the members of the Entente which were not part of the British Empire (and among a significant segment of those that were), their stubbornness would have to be resolved. And so the landing force departed.  The Entente had learned from the invasion of Cornwall, and dispatched two landing forces, one to opposite sides of the island. In doing so, they hoped to avoid a situation as in England when almost all of the Republican Army moved to defend against the landing. By splitting the Irish defenders, they would be able to get at least one of the invasion forces ashore without too many casualties.  Cavalry divisions were sent to Waterford, the hope being that they would land and be able to move north to Dublin.  The landing force that was expected to succeed was the one sent to assault the western shore of Ireland. The Irish defenders had expected the attack to come via the most direct route, and so their professional infantry was tasked with defending the eastern coast. The Japanese sent their very best to attack the militias that defended the western coast: veteran marines, armor and motorized infantry.  For a nation that was relatively insignificant in the wider war, Ireland did hold a surprise for Japan. Entente intelligence had never expected the appearance of Irish armor in County Mayo.  The armor was significantly smaller than the Japanese models, and their smaller guns could not pierce the Japanese tanks heavy armor. Due to this, the armor quickly left the west of Ireland and moved to shore up the front line in County Wexford where they had success against the unarmored forces landing there.  Soon enough the landing in the east was faltering. The cavalry there were taking significant losses aand not making a lot of headway.  However, their purpose was to land if possible and distract either way. Ireland had chosen to concentrate its effort on stopping one of the landings rather than fail to stop both.  The Irish had not counted on the mobility of the Japanese Army, however, as the mobile portions of the western landing force was directed to assault the rear of the defenses in Leinster province.  The Japanese were not willing to give up the effort to land in Leinster despite the success in Connacht.  The Irish kept up the fight in the hilly terrain of the area, ambushing Japanese columns using their intimate knowledge of the area. The Japanese had to adapt to these tactics.  Eventually both landings would succeed, though the eastern landing succeeded at a high cost, with almost twice as many Japanese dying as Irish.  The cavalry of the eastern landing needed time to reorganize after the vicious fighting.  Meanwhile, the motorized forces of the western landing which had had time to recover due to their easier fight and earlier victory were on the move. They rushed north to secure County Donegal, in order to widen the front and force the Irish defenders to spread out.  The Irish knew that their power lay in Dublin, and so they focused their defensive efforts there, but they did not wish to be cut off from their other power center in Belfast.  Meanwhile in Munster, a very unique battle was occurring. One of the first purely armor battles on record, two divisions of Japanese medium tanks were engaging one division of Irish light tanks. Military observers from around the world took interest to see how the Irish attempted novel tactics in order to compensate for their underpowered cannons and thin armor.  The battle would later evolve to include the Japanese Marines and a unit of Irish militia, and the Japanese would again learn to counter the Irish use of the terrain.  Finding themselves surrounded and their tactics countered, the Irish forces in the South surrendered. While the Japanese found their armor to be vastly superior to the Irish light tanks, they did ship a number of captured units back to Japan for research, hoping to find a novel piece of design that could be utilized in future Japanese designs.  With the Irish armor out of the picture and the south secure, the Japanese began an operation to split Dublin from Belfast in order to simplify the capture of both.  Pushing ahead despite supply difficulties, the Japanese divided the Irish army in two and quickly attacked Belfast.  A much larger attack on Dublin would follow.  The battle was short, and the city was declared open once the Irish Army surrendered. The Irish, with the enemy at the gates, had finally elected to trust in Japanese promises of good intentions.  The Irish divisions in Belfast would continue the fight, though they were taking heavy losses and were highly demoralized.  Finally, they too gave up.  Four years after the war between Japan and Germany broke out, the once-German and now Irish High Seas Fleet finally had no port left to call home after fleeing from Europe to Asia to Africa and back to Europe.   The Entente armada gave chase, sinking one battlecruiser and one heavy cruiser, but the highly disciplined High Seas Fleet avoided engaging in an attempt to make it to the south of Ireland.    However, the war was over, and everybody knew it. Michael Collins surrendered his nation unconditionally, and the High Seas Fleet was scuttled south of Cork. The Entente command were baffled that the German commanders of the High Seas Fleet would rather sink the ships than offer them up for use against the Internationale, but the story of the High Seas Fleet would end up matching that of Mitteleuropa in the end: their arrogance and stubbornness in refusing to submit to the Entente would lead to their destruction.  Exactly two months after the official fall of the Union of Britain, their long time enemy and neighbor fell as well.  To the shock of many, the Japanese would keep their promises and reconstitute the Irish republic, allowing Seán Lemass to lead a provisional civilian government. Liberalism supplanted the conservative nationalism which had ruled Ireland for the last few decades.  While the British Empire did resent having Ireland removed from it by Japan, Ireland and the United Kingdom quickly came to terms on a trade relationship. Centuries of enmity were overshadowed by the fact that they were two liberal democracies on a continent unfriendly to them. CONFERENCE ROUND 2: Territorial Adjustments The war against Mittleuropa has resulted in the Entente and Japan in particular occupying a great deal of territory. The anti-colonial stances of the Minseito and Shakai Taishuto means that there is little popular will for Japan to administer this territory as colonies, and so there are many questions on how to best organize the territories in question. (Seiyukai and Domei would be able to consider keeping the territory as colonies) Vote #1: Sarawak  The territory of Sarawak was once a British protectorate before the Germans assumed control. The Japanese then assumed jurisdiction over the territory after returning the remainder of Borneo to Indonesian control. Administering the territory as a colony is out of the question, so the options available are either to release the territory as an independent state or to transfer it to Indonesia. Option A: Transfer the Territory to Indonesia This option would please Indonesia for obvious reasons but slightly displease the Republic of China, as the business component of the Chinese republican movement has many contacts amongst the Chinese population in Sarawak and is eager to develop a close economic relationship with Sarawak, something that would be more complicated if the territory becomes a part of Indonesia. quote:”Indonesia is already a large multi-ethnic nation that has endeavored to provide autonomy for the many peoples contained on its islands. Why should Sarawak be any different than Java or Bali?” - Ikuto Toiguchi, Seiyukai member of the Diet Option B: Grant Sarawak Independence This option would grant the territory independence. It would displease Indonesia and slightly please the Republic of China. quote:”We do not need to transfer more territory to the Dutch colony. Sure they have made many promises regarding independence, but why should we force even more people to have their dreams of self-determination rest upon the flimsy foundation of a European’s promise?” - Iku Takenaka, Shakai Taishuto member of the Diet Vote #2: New Guinea  The Japanese have assumed control over the German quadrant of New Guinea, but like Sarawak, there is no popular will to continue administering the colony. Independence of just the one quadrant seems unsustainable however, and so there is a question as to whether to transfer the territory to Indonesia or Australasia, who both claim it. Option A: Transfer the Territory to Australasia This would please Australasia but displease Indonesia. quote:”Who would want to transfer it to Indonesia? The borders would be hideous!” - Sousuke Shikikawa, Kyoto globe merchant Option B: Transfer the Territory to Indonesia This would please Indonesia but displease Australasia. quote:”Australasia has made no concrete promises towards decolonizing their portion of New Guinea, and so I would rather see the territory in the hands of a nation that has at least promised such a move.” - Hidesuke Andou, Minseito member of the Diet Vote #3: Fate of the Legation Cities   The Legation Cities’ existence reflects the time in which they were created. When the cities were established, Germany was hoping to maintain the balance of power as well as make sure that all the imperial powers’ interests were represented. But now the German Empire is gone, and of the remaining states and successor states with legations in China, only Russia and Austria are not members of the Entente. Russia is despised by the Entente and so their opinion is of little consequence and Austria dares not challenge the Entente with the Internationale breathing down their necks. The Republic of China demands that the cities be ceded to them immediately, but some of the other members of the Entente wish to wait until after the conflict to negotiate a settlement regarding the termination of their legal rights in the cities. Japan may either push to end the legation arrangements or convince China to wait. Option A: End the Legation Cities The Legation Cities would be annexed by the Republic of China, but their armed forces would disband as the foreigners who command and organize them would return to their homelands. The annexation would clearly greatly please the Republic of China but it would slightly displease the United States, Pacific States, Australasia, Canada, National France and Delhi, all of whom enjoy economic privileges of one kind of another in the cities. quote:”China for the Chinese! Imperialists out now!” – Chants heard during solidarity protest held by Shakai Taishuto in Hiroshima Option B: Postpone the Decision The Legation Cities would not be annexed by the Republic of China in any time frame covered by this LP, unless they decide to attack on their own (which is unlikely unless I’m forgetting an event). This would greatly displease the Republic of China, who resent the imposition of the legations immensely, but slightly please the United States, Pacific States, Australasia, Canada, National France and Delhi. quote:”The law is the law, and just because China has switched governments so often since the treaties were signed does not make the treaties void. If we allow China to take what they want without respect for the legal rights of the legations, then they will be emboldened to disrespect international law in the future.” - Itsuo Kai, Domei member of the Diet Vote #4: The Future of Central Africa The territory in Africa once controlled by Mittelafrika is now controlled by Japan in the east, National France in the northwest, and the South African Federation in the South. Japan has no interest in administering colonies in Africa, and so it is already understood that Japan’s sphere of influence in the east will be granted independence. However, a bold proposal by a pan-African faction in Dar es Salaam has caught the attention of the Japanese government, which is now considering it.  Option A: Establish the Bantu Federation The Bantu Federation would claim the larger borders and because National France and South African Federation have no legal claim to the territory, they would be under pressure to transfer their territory to the new nation, though it would displease both nations. The Republic of China would be pleased by Japan’s aggressive posture on decolonization and the United States of America’s more mild anti-colonial position would cause them to be slightly pleased. quote:”How long have our African comrades waited for freedom?! Japan has the power in its hands to free millions of Africans. If we do not use that power, then we are criminals of the same caliber as the colonizers themselves.” - Yurina Katagiri, Shakai Taishuto member of the Diet Option B: Establish the East African Union The East African Union would claim the smaller blue borders. Because this is expected already, this would neither please nor displease anybody. quote:”I am as sympathetic to the cause of African freedom as anybody, but I worry about the wisdom of antagonizing our allies by supporting this proposal. Surely decolonization can progress once the conflict is finished. Why accelerate the process and risk the coalition we need to win in Europe?” - Hiroaki Higuchi, Minseito member of the Diet
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 07:29
|
|
|
AAAA.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 07:47
|
|
|
Jeoh posted:BAAA.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 08:09
|
|
|
ABAB
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 08:25
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 08:42
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 09:02
|
|
|
BBAA. This is a good chance to uphold anticolonial principles and get the Chinese on side, without losing out on any useful gains for Japan and upsetting only nations that don't really matter.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 09:20
|
|
|
AAAB
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 09:44
|
|
|
AAAB
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 10:09
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 11:20
|
|
|
ModernMajorGeneral posted:BBAA. This is a good chance to uphold anticolonial principles and get the Chinese on side, without losing out on any useful gains for Japan and upsetting only nations that don't really matter. Yeah, I'm behind this for the exact same reason.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 11:25
|
|
|
BAAA I want the Australiasian troops, Indonesia has poo poo for a military.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 13:20
|
|
|
BBAB
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 13:32
|
|
|
BBAB.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 13:55
|
|
|
ModernMajorGeneral posted:BBAA. This is a good chance to uphold anticolonial principles and get the Chinese on side, without losing out on any useful gains for Japan and upsetting only nations that don't really matter.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 14:01
|
|
|
A A B A Stick it to National France and China.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 16:29
|
|
|
ABAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 17:47
|
|
|
BABA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 17:50
|
|
|
BBAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 17:59
|
|
|
BBAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 18:06
|
|
|
Frionnel posted:A A B A The Chinese are not our friends 
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 18:14
|
|
|
AAAA I don't really care about which way #2 goes, but pretty borders pretty much tells me to vote A there.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 18:28
|
|
|
Frionnel posted:A A B A It is imperative that we hurt the feelings of the Chinese people.
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 18:35
|
|
|
Look it's not called the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere for nothing we gotta help out our fellow Asiatics
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 20:11
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 20:23
|
|
|
ABAA! Max anticolonialism forever!
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 20:28
|
|
|
BAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 22:15
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 28, 2017 23:24
|
|
|
BBAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 29, 2017 01:15
|
|
|
Vote #1: Option A: Transfer the Territory to Indonesia - What on Earth would possess someone to split an island up into disparate countries with pointless ugly borders, when it can be a nice, solid single color? Vote #2: Option A: Transfer the Territory to Australasia - "”Who would want to transfer it to Indonesia? The borders would be hideous!” - Sousuke Shikikawa, Kyoto globe merchant" -< It's this. Vote #3: Option A: End the Legation Cities - There might have been a time when they were justifiable, but today they are simply a stain on China and with it, all of Asia. Vote #4: Option A: Establish the Bantu Federation - Africa should be for the Africans! We cannot do much about National France or Seth Efrica at this time, but a strong and populous pan-Africanist country would do much to ensure no further colonialism is undertaken and, in time, perhaps reduce the colonies which still exist.
|
|
#
?
Sep 29, 2017 01:36
|
|
|
BAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 30, 2017 00:05
|
|
|
AAAA
|
|
#
?
Sep 30, 2017 00:15
|
|
|
AAAA We shouldn't give a gently caress about National France because we shouldn't be returning them to control on the mainland. They're an unelected junta of colonialists who will work to rebuild a Eurocentric world order the second we turn our backs. Best case scenario is them rage quitting the Entente so we can free North and West Africa.
|
|
#
?
Sep 30, 2017 00:30
|
|
|
Voting Closed! On the issue of Sarawak, the voting is in favor of Indonesia 18-13. On the issue of northeastern New Guinea, the voting is in favor of Australasia 20-11. On the issue of the legations, the voting is in favor of ending them 27-4. On the issue of Africa, the voting is in favor of the Bantu Federation 26-5. Cumulative effects thus far (including canceled out effects). Canada: 1 x greatly please, 2 x slightly displease Australasia: 1 x please, 2 x slightly displease Delhi: 2 x slightly displease United States: 2 x please Republic of China: 1 x greatly please, 1 x please National France: 2 x displease, 1 x slightly displease Pacific States: 1 x please, 1 x slightly displease Indonesia: Wash South African Federation: 2 x displease csm141 fucked around with this message at 15:39 on Oct 3, 2017 |
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2017 05:53
|
|
|
Chief Savage Man posted:Cumulative effects thus far. Might it make sense to display these in a basic, numerical +/- format showing the current net pleased/displeased rating? This block is kinda hard to read and parse.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2017 07:30
|
|
|
Drone posted:Might it make sense to display these in a basic, numerical +/- format showing the current net pleased/displeased rating? This block is kinda hard to read and parse. Assigning point values of 1 to "slightly", 3 for "normal," and 5 for "greatly," and assigning positive values to "please" and negative values to "displease": Canada: 8 Australasia: 1 Delhi: -2 United States: 6 Republic of China: 8 National France: -7 Pacific States: 2 Indonesia: 0 South African Federation: -6 Note: these values are pulled out of my rear end and may have no actual relation to CSM's gameplay
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2017 08:34
|
|
|
Seems like we're pleasing all the right parties. gently caress the colonists.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2017 09:59
|
|
|
|
| # ? Jun 7, 2024 01:11 |
|
|
I would suggest getting Delhi on our good sign soon. They probably like us for our role in uniting India, but I don't want that good will to run out.
|
|
#
?
Oct 3, 2017 12:48
|
|