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| The Big3 Tourney |
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67 | 22.41% |
| Will Lakers draft Ball |
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40 | 13.38% |
| Where will the Pauls go |
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54 | 18.06% |
| Will LeBron jump ship to the Spurs or ?? |
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41 | 13.71% |
| Will every team in the league just pivot towards tanking |
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97 | 32.44% |
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Lessail posted:Most of my complaints have been about KD ruining the NBA and you think this is about my team? Though thanks for proving my point Your complaints were market size which has at most a small bearing on where players have been going. If market size was the issue then Atlanta, Dallas, Philly, Toronto, Chicago, Houston, LAC, LAL, NYK, Brooklyn, and Toronto would all have a leg up on free agents. Being well run is much bigger factor. Players have been signing with teams to make runs at poo poo. GS, Boston, Miami etc. are mid size markets (its really more like there are 5 or so massive markets, a bunch of teams relatively close to one another, and then some smaller ones)
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Sep 29, 2017 00:32
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Not only that, but Seattle is a big market and they didn't manage to keep any of their players.
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Sep 29, 2017 00:51
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Shear Modulus posted:Not only that, but Seattle is a big market and they didn't manage to keep any of their players. lol
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Sep 29, 2017 00:52
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I don't think market size is the right way to look at it. I think, "cool city to be a millionaire in" is what people are actually saying when they discuss market size. And I think being a millionaire is cool in just about every city these days.
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Sep 29, 2017 00:54
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Strawberry Panda posted:I don't think market size is the right way to look at it. I think, "cool city to be a millionaire in" is what people are actually saying when they discuss market size. Local endorsement deals are related to market size and the shoe companies also care
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Sep 29, 2017 00:55
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Shear Modulus posted:Not only that, but Seattle is a big market and they didn't manage to keep any of their players. jesus christ 
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Sep 29, 2017 00:58
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Sep 29, 2017 00:58
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euphronius posted:Local endorsement deals are related to market size and the shoe companies also care I had that thought too. That it's agents getting in the ears of players about how much money they can make certain places. But KAT is the spokesperson of Jack Links so as long as you're good you can get national campaigns. Local endorsements seem to be more for players below the superstar threshold.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:00
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i wonder if flattening the lottery odds incentivizes teams that are in that 7-8-9-10 type range to tank into the 11/12 range more so. It reduces the value of being literally the worst team but increases the value of being 6-13th worst. Being the 14th worst record was and is still the worst place to finish in the NBA, but now being the 11th worse team has tripled in potential top 5 pick odds. 10th worse almost quadrupled. It seems like flattening disincentives full on tanking sixers style, but may actually increase late season tanking by mediocre or slightly below average teams
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Sep 29, 2017 01:01
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Rick posted:Yeah I agree, I think this will increase the number of teams that are tanking, not decreasing. It will encourage players to go to well run teams, not necessarily "big market", which I am fine. New York is a big market and free agents are not swarming there because their owner is an idiot. Nobody wanted to go to the Lakers of the last few years because the team was horrible and the management clueless.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:07
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Seems to me that the new draft system allows teams that are poo poo, but not roster-full-of-d-leaguers poo poo to get better without having to transplant their entire roster with Cameron Payne-alikes. But the struggle will be real for teams that might finish 4-5-6 to get into that 3rd spot.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:14
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Shear Modulus posted:Not only that, but Seattle is a big market and they didn't manage to keep any of their players. Lmfao
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Sep 29, 2017 01:16
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The cynic in me says the new lottery reform makes the rigged results of the draft seem more fair 
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Sep 29, 2017 01:22
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Libertine posted:What exactly is wrong with the tweaking of the draft odds? Less incentive to bottom out, still a good chance for the really bad teams to have a top tier pick, and the flatter odds makes it more likely that a fringe playoff team wins the lottery and then becomes a great team. Those are usually more exciting occurrences than "team that has been lovely for 5 straight years picks another player to squander" Because we know for a fact teams will still bottom out even with 0% draft odds (Nets), so now it just makes it more likely that really bad teams don't get the help they need. Space Camp fuckup posted:I'm not really sure KD going to the Warriors has anything to do with market size A few years ago, Golden State was considered one of the less desirable franchise-markets out there. A decade ago saying "Players trying to get to Golden State" would be kind of funny. But KD going had nothing to do with the market, players are valuing winning chance and role now more than ever.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:27
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Dejan has convinced me that Nike sent KD to Golden State to usurp Under Armor anyways
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Sep 29, 2017 01:29
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Or simple economics will force the badly run teams to eventually sell to a owner that doesn't suck instead of keeping them on life support by wasting player's and fan's time.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:31
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Lessail: Have you considered that Kevin Durant is, in fact, a bitch? Please factor this in to your calculations, thank you.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:33
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https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/913530732991045633 https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/913532140494585856 COWARD
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Sep 29, 2017 01:36
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Go Team
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Sep 29, 2017 01:37
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He's a black suit and shoe lifts from being Peter Boyle in Young Frankenstein. You know, The MONSTER.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:38
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AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/913530732991045633 Wow He's terrible
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Sep 29, 2017 01:39
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AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/913530732991045633 ooooh boy I bet that will go over well with players
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Sep 29, 2017 01:39
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I know I probably shouldn't be surprised but I genuinely am that silver said that
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Sep 29, 2017 01:41
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what a lawyery goober thing to do will he be suspending the entire la sparks team
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Sep 29, 2017 01:42
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wtf i hate adam silver now
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Sep 29, 2017 01:45
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What is the NBA rule? Why do they have that when no one else seems to?
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Sep 29, 2017 01:45
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Spring Break My Heart posted:What is the NBA rule? Why do they have that when no one else seems to? The rule is they have to stand. I would guess because of Mahmoud Abdul Rauf
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Sep 29, 2017 01:46
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I think he had credibility by banning Sterling relatively quickly but I don't see that statement going over well with players.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:48
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I'll try and find the cba by the players may have negotiated the anthem
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Sep 29, 2017 01:49
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AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/IanBegley/status/913530732991045633 We need a player to ritually strip in protest.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:51
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Spring Break My Heart posted:What is the NBA rule? Why do they have that when no one else seems to? https://twitter.com/BobbyMarks42/status/913533564205043712
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Sep 29, 2017 01:53
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I don't find anything in the cba about standing It's big tho And the might have unpublished side agreements
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Sep 29, 2017 01:53
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Ahh they found it Players negotiated it so they can't knell per the cba The should anyway
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Sep 29, 2017 01:53
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euphronius posted:Ahh they found it I don't see anything there stopping them from doing a black power salute.
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Sep 29, 2017 01:58
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Adam Silver loving sucks
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Sep 29, 2017 02:02
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Kibner posted:I don't see anything there stopping them from doing a black power salute. 4 (a) (7) gesture
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Sep 29, 2017 02:06
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euphronius posted:4 (a) (7) gesture I was interpreting that as gesturing, like doing fist bumps and poo poo while the anthem is going on. Not just standing in a single pose the whole time.
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Sep 29, 2017 02:12
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Kibner posted:I was interpreting that as gesturing, like doing fist bumps and poo poo while the anthem is going on. Not just standing in a single pose the whole time. ges·ture ˈjesCHər/Submit noun 1. a movement of part of the body, especially a hand or the head, to express an idea or meaning. "Alex made a gesture of apology" synonyms: signal, sign, motion, indication, gesticulation; show "a gesture of surrender" verb
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Sep 29, 2017 02:14
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He's in a tricky situation cause there's already a law on the books saying they have to (from when protesting Iraq was illegal). Ideally he should just meet with Roberts and get rid of it but considering he is employed by honkey owners I'm not sure if he has that mandate.
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Sep 29, 2017 02:16
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BWV posted:He's in a tricky situation cause there's already a law on the books saying they have to (from when protesting Iraq was illegal). Ideally he should just meet with Roberts and get rid of it but considering he is employed by honkey owners I'm not sure if he has that mandate. He leaves himself a lot of wiggle room and is pretty consistent with what he's said in the past on demonstrations. quote:The NBA will not fine players for wearing “I Can’t Breathe” t-shirts in honor of a Staten Island man who died after police placed him a chokehold in July, reports ESPN’s Jeremy Schaap. On paper the quotes today aren't great but in general with stuff like this I feel like he handles them as well as you could hope
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