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Sandweed posted:I give my grenadiers tracers sometimes, If they are firing their guns its mostly for shred anyway. I give my baby sharpshooters tracers until I get bluescreen rounds.
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RBA Starblade posted:I give my baby sharpshooters tracers until I get bluescreen rounds. You give your sharpshooters bluescreen? I stick bluescreen pretty exclusively on shredder grenadiers and usually toss something like venom or dragon on my sharpshooters.
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quiggy posted:You give your sharpshooters bluescreen? I stick bluescreen pretty exclusively on shredder grenadiers and usually toss something like venom or dragon on my sharpshooters. Dragon Rounds are pro tier when pistoling the Lost
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I just realized that aside from the obvious (EMP/bluescreen for robots) that I don't actually know for sure what enemies are immune to certain damage types. I just kind of assumed that dragon and venom rounds were  for the most part and gave talon rounds to rangers and AP/EMP to everyone else, maybe tracers to guys with bad marksmanship if I randomly got some.RBA Starblade posted:I give my baby sharpshooters tracers until I get bluescreen rounds. They're also good on reapers. Sting + bluescreen and you get a chunk of damage + reduced hack defense on that sectopod to really take the edge off them while staying hidden. Banish + bluescreen = lol of course, just make sure they get a superior expanded magazine mod so they can really go kill crazy.
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Iron Crowned posted:Dragon Rounds are pro tier when pistoling the Lost I actually haven't gotten a Lost mission since rolling Dragon, but should I get one before the end of the campaign I definitely need to try this on my faceoff sharpshooter 
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quiggy posted:You give your sharpshooters bluescreen? I stick bluescreen pretty exclusively on shredder grenadiers and usually toss something like venom or dragon on my sharpshooters. My grenadiers are too busy blowing things up too shoot their guns usually.  A pistolero will erase sectopods and gatekeepers with bs rounds though.
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RBA Starblade posted:My grenadiers are too busy blowing things up too shoot their guns usually. They get 4 explosives max, and a perk to let you launch one and do something else. Grenadiers can be devastating gunners
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Zore posted:They get 4 explosives max, and a perk to let you launch one and do something else. Grenadiers can be devastating gunners They usually don't run out, though I do occasionally sat fire.
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Saturation fire is the best way to open your concealed ambush. Especially on the longer missions it's good to use your cooldowns first, and consumables to fill the gaps when your cooldowns are recharging.
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I stopped thinking about anything with the Lost once I got Between the Eyes
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quiggy posted:You give your sharpshooters bluescreen? I stick bluescreen pretty exclusively on shredder grenadiers and usually toss something like venom or dragon on my sharpshooters. I give everyone who isn't a grenadier (double grenade) or specialist (medkit) bluescreen rounds to go with their blaster launchers. Iron Crowned posted:
sean10mm posted:They're also good on reapers. Just finished my first WOTC campaign and never saw any way to give an item to a reaper.
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ulmont posted:Just finished my first WOTC campaign and never saw any way to give an item to a reaper. One of the reapers extra perks can be "tactical rigging" (iirc), which allows them to hold an item. e: the warlock in my campaign is weak to close range attacks and immune to melee 
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Yeah, it's tactical rigging. I got it both games I've played so far so I just got lucky.MacheteZombie posted:One of the reapers extra perks can be "tactical rigging" (iirc), which allows them to hold an item. Any close range gunfire works so it's not as bad as it sounds. Shotgun that motherfuck.
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MacheteZombie posted:e: the warlock in my campaign is weak to close range attacks and immune to melee t a l o n r o u n d s
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Immune to Melee sucks for a Templar because what are they gonna do, run up to the Chosen's face and shoot them with their dinky little pistol?
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Internet Kraken posted:Immune to Melee sucks for a Templar because what are they gonna do, run up to the Chosen's face and shoot them with their dinky little pistol? I had a Templar roll Faceoff, I'm not sure how I feel about that.
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Iron Crowned posted:I had a Templar roll Faceoff, I'm not sure how I feel about that. I'm debating adding the mod that lets you swap out abilities for AP on my next playthrough.
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Internet Kraken posted:Immune to Melee sucks for a Templar because what are they gonna do, run up to the Chosen's face and shoot them with their dinky little pistol? Run into the open near your squad and then switch places with the Chosen. Iron Crowned posted:I had a Templar roll Faceoff, I'm not sure how I feel about that. Bluescreen rounds and then have fun. It seems like half the late-game enemies are weak to them.
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Bluescreen rounds are op as poo poo, made moreso by the fact that you can build them instead of gambling cores.
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Sep 29, 2017 17:48
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Codexes and Gatekeepers count as both mechs and psionic. Loading the disruptor rifle with bluescreen is pretty fun!
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:I stopped thinking about anything with the Lost once I got Between the Eyes I never got this Order. I did, however, get the "Covert Ops cannot be ambushed" one as my very first, and that is pretty drat silly; it essentially turns Covert Ops into absolutely free bonuses every few days with no downsides or risk at all. Your guys can still potentially get (lightly) injured, but who cares?
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Backhand posted:I never got this Order. I did, however, get the "Covert Ops cannot be ambushed" one as my very first, and that is pretty drat silly; it essentially turns Covert Ops into absolutely free bonuses every few days with no downsides or risk at all. Your guys can still potentially get (lightly) injured, but who cares? i send reapers every time i'm concerned about ambushes, they literally just walk to the exit and there's basically nothing that can stop them because shadow is so good
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Sep 29, 2017 18:09
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the only really overpowered order i have in my commander campaign is doubled ap gain on the other hand, drat is doubled ap good
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I never had any good resistance orders
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sean10mm posted:Banish + bluescreen = lol of course, just make sure they get a superior expanded magazine mod so they can really go kill crazy. I was so butt hurt when I found that Banish does not work on an unalerted pod beyond the first hit because the scamper interrupts and ends the attack early.
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Backhand posted:I never got this Order. I did, however, get the "Covert Ops cannot be ambushed" one as my very first, and that is pretty drat silly; it essentially turns Covert Ops into absolutely free bonuses every few days with no downsides or risk at all. Your guys can still potentially get (lightly) injured, but who cares? I got Between the Eyes and "Covert Ops cannot be ambushed" as my first two and ran them both the entire game.
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I didn't get ambushes until recently and I just run. There is only one section each ambush where I receive fire (usually a trooper under a ladder).
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I never bothered with the Ambush prevention once I realized how easy they were to fight through. It just felt like a waste of a card slot and waste of resources to prevent (Alloys, supplies, etc). Every time I got ambushed I followed the same strat without issue. First turn, dash up onto a fire escape with one person at the top of the ladder to body block. Overwatch the reinforcement Officer/Trooper drop. Then stick to the upper floors. If you pop advent and can't kill them on your turn easily, pull back into the middle of the room to break line of sight and force them to come up top into an overwatch trap. When you pop lost, stick on the high ground and again put one person at the top of the ladder to body block the lost from getting up.
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the most hilarious thing about the first turn reinforcement drop is that if your team is concealed/shadowed, the dropship will come in and drop.....absolutely nobody.
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Late game ambushes can give you Andromedons to deal with though, and those guys require a bit more ordinance to take down than two people can field in a single turn. Kinda have to crack the armor from max range and pray for that one.
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Just straight up run away from them towards the extraction and break line of sight by going up in those appartments. Regarding ammo, talon rounds are a lot of fun on reapers. 100% crit on your walking maphack is pretty loving good.
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So, which of the special faction soldiers do you guys think it's the best to start with? For Commander difficulty, if that matters.
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It's loads of fun soloing facilities with a Reaper, and mapping out the entire enemy force on landed ufos before turning the beacon off the turn it activates. Who thought reapers were ok to put in this game?
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Mystic Stylez posted:So, which of the special faction soldiers do you guys think it's the best to start with? For Commander difficulty, if that matters. i go with skirmishers. The faster build speed of their HQ is nice in getting your GTS/Ring up in the first month soon enough to get some ops for more support personel and squad to 5 in time for the first retaliation. having 2-3 engineers into month 2 is great for getting a head start. their justice can help very well vs the first officers, and while their bullpup is less damage, its not that bad, being 3-4 vs 3-5 of your rifles. basically, unless the rumor is worth it, only scan for build speed that first month. if you can pull it off, skip buying anything but your GTS, Ring, Squad 5. clearing a space or two can give you enough supply to pull it off. buy things you need in month 2
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Mystic Stylez posted:So, which of the special faction soldiers do you guys think it's the best to start with? For Commander difficulty, if that matters. Sandwich Anarchist posted:It's loads of fun soloing facilities with a Reaper, and mapping out the entire enemy force on landed ufos before turning the beacon off the turn it activates.
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God I fucking love Diablo 3 gold, it even paid for this shitty title
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MacheteZombie posted:Do the templar gauntlets only upgrade once? No, twice like every primary weapon. They're locked behind armor upgrades.
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MacheteZombie posted:Do the templar gauntlets only upgrade once? They upgrade with armor tech. T2 is with plated armor, T3 is Power armor
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ooo okay. I was confused since the skirmisher upgrades followed the sword upgrades.
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