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watch these kids speedrun building a thorium reactor in minecraft, but what they don't know will shock you its construction drones not minecraft they're really building them yes i know this is just the plot to enders game
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Bates posted:Oil contains more carbon than trees so let's just buy that and sequester it in the oceans. It's true; the most efficient way to capture carbon is to buy oil and hide it deep in a cave somewhere. It's probably 10 times as efficient as using trees.
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Sep 28, 2017 19:58
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Salt Fish posted:It's true; the most efficient way to capture carbon is to buy oil and hide it deep in a cave somewhere. It's probably 10 times as efficient as using trees.
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Sep 28, 2017 20:04
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The $$$ spent on the Iraq war could have put solar on the roof of almost every building in the USA. Just FYI.
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Sep 29, 2017 00:15
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yep thats why this is not a technology or an 'economic' problem (in the costs sense) its an ideological/priorities/societal-values one
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Sep 29, 2017 01:13
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We just lost Puerto Rico, the territory, the nation. We don't recognize it yet, but that island nation and others like it have just started an irrevocable, generational decline.
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/28/alarm-as-study-reveals-worlds-tropical-forests-are-huge-carbon-emission-sourcequote:The world’s tropical forests are so degraded they have become a source rather than a sink of carbon emissions, according to a new study that highlights the urgent need to protect and restore the Amazon and similar regions. 
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Sep 29, 2017 02:33
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In 5th grade we did this thing where we held a piece of string and spread out so that we covered an area the size of an acre, as part of a "save the rainforest" thing that was going on, the teacher informing us that a sizeable number of acres of rainforest were destroyed every minute. I got in trouble cause i yelled "WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEE!!!" while jerking on the string so it fell out of a bunch of other peoples hands. I did not know then that I was being prophetic. They should have listened to meeeee
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Martin Random posted:We just lost Puerto Rico, the territory, the nation. We don't recognize it yet, but that island nation and others like it have just started an irrevocable, generational decline. Sadly, it won't matter till it happens to a bunch of white people. Trump's FEMA response to the disaster in Puerto Rico makes "Heck of a Job" Brownie look like a logistical genius.
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Sep 29, 2017 06:59
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Digiwizzard posted:https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/28/alarm-as-study-reveals-worlds-tropical-forests-are-huge-carbon-emission-source gently caress yeah! 
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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VideoGameVet posted:Sadly, it won't matter till it happens to a bunch of white people. Got a detailed lowdown on this? You usually have to do some digging below the surface to find this stuff, and USPOL is difficult to navigate st the best of times.
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Sep 29, 2017 08:34
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Martin Random posted:We just lost Puerto Rico, the territory, the nation. We don't recognize it yet, but that island nation and others like it have just started an irrevocable, generational decline. Why, exactly. I mean, I can see your general point about islands in the path of terrible storms, but how exactly is Puerto Rico in particular boned, and how soon? I'm asking, because over here media isn't really covering the situation and the internet gets more useless for non-opinionated news every day.
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They're bankrupt, but forbidden from actually declaring bankruptcy. And they can't get significant federal aid until they pay up.
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Sep 29, 2017 11:04
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Martin Random posted:We just lost Puerto Rico, the territory, the nation. We don't recognize it yet, but that island nation and others like it have just started an irrevocable, generational decline. https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/912718939620364288 Nice piece of fish posted:Why, exactly. I mean, I can see your general point about islands in the path of terrible storms, but how exactly is Puerto Rico in particular boned, and how soon? I'm asking, because over here media isn't really covering the situation and the internet gets more useless for non-opinionated news every day. https://twitter.com/ZachJCarter/status/898649110282027008 https://twitter.com/ZachJCarter/status/898649381187928065
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/912718939620364288 Wow. Holy poo poo that's horrible. That's some of the most evil poo poo I've heard of from a ostensibly democratic first world nation.
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Sep 29, 2017 11:32
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Sep 29, 2017 14:01
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This is a plausible fate for all the low lying cities and regions most at risk for climate-change related sea level rise and increased storm activity. Their financial situation deteriorates one way or another over the years until a large enough storm comes through and there's no interest (political or financial) in rebuilding a bankrupt entity. Puerto Rico is probably exceptional in that it was effectively bankrupted by the normal forces of capitalism before Maria delivered the final blow, as opposed to the cost of cumulative damage from increasingly intense storms.
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FourLeaf posted:https://twitter.com/cushbomb/status/912718939620364288 God drat, this is almost, almost, as depressing as the usual climate change related articles posted here. I 'dunked' on a few Dotards in my local paper's comment section when they stated that "we" should be more concerned with "our own people" in Texas and Florida first before we recognize the Puerto Ricans. I just... 
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Nice piece of fish posted:Why, exactly. I mean, I can see your general point about islands in the path of terrible storms, but how exactly is Puerto Rico in particular boned, and how soon? I'm asking, because over here media isn't really covering the situation and the internet gets more useless for non-opinionated news every day. An enormous amount of money and work needs to be put into Puerto rico infrastructure and housing to make structures that can weather these storms. We don't want to spend that money. The damage from this year will not be repaired by the time another storm hits in a few years. One step forward, two steps back over and over, each time more people leaving and the island getting poorer after each hit. Since Puerto ricans are americans, they can come to the mainland and we kinda have to at least pretend to help. The real fun begins when an island nation state starts its death spiral. BTW, when the Puerto rican refugee crisis gets in full swing here in a month or two, look for Trump to try to limit access off the island. As they are citizens it would be an act of naked fascism.
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Sep 29, 2017 18:31
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Bishounen Bonanza posted:An enormous amount of money and work needs to be put into Puerto rico infrastructure and housing to make structures that can weather these storms. We don't want to spend that money. The damage from this year will not be repaired by the time another storm hits in a few years. One step forward, two steps back over and over, each time more people leaving and the island getting poorer after each hit. Yeah, this is my thought as well. This crisis with Puerto Rico is going to be in the vanguard of the increasingly common debate over whether we even bother to rebuild certain areas, because they will be destroyed again and again as climate change ramps up the severe weather in the region.
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Darth Walrus posted:Got a detailed lowdown on this? You usually have to do some digging below the surface to find this stuff, and USPOL is difficult to navigate st the best of times. Supplies sitting on the docks because no one planned the logistics of moving them to where they are needed. What should have happened was to dispatch the Army Corps of Engineers to get the roads and bridges working ASAP, the dispatch of truck drivers (yes they didn't have drivers) and meanwhile on THE DAY AFTER THE HURRICANE get choppers in there to deliver emergency supplies. http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/us/puerto-rico-fema-response/index.html
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[quote="“VideoGameVet”" post="“476893430”"] Supplies sitting on the docks because no one planned the logistics of moving them to where they are needed. What should have happened was to dispatch the Army Corps of Engineers to get the roads and bridges working ASAP, the dispatch of truck drivers (yes they didn’t have drivers) and meanwhile on THE DAY AFTER THE HURRICANE get choppers in there to deliver emergency supplies. http://www.cnn.com/2017/09/28/us/puerto-rico-fema-response/index.html [/quote] I assume USAF can't airlift in heavy trucks because their entire airlift capability is being overused for the forever war?
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Hey, remember how Tesla batteries were proof that Elon Musk totally cares about the climate? https://www.theverge.com/2017/9/29/16383048/elon-musk-spacex-rocket-transport-earth-travel gently caress. ELON. MUSK.
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AceOfFlames posted:Hey, remember how Tesla batteries were proof that Elon Musk totally cares about the climate? You're a profoundly stupid human being
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How much in emissions is there from a rocket blast? Wouldn't it in theory reduce emissions if it replaced current forms of air travel?
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hobbesmaster posted:I assume USAF can't airlift in heavy trucks because their entire airlift capability is being overused for the forever war? Just airlifting the supplies sitting on the docks (only 4% distributed) would have been a good start. The do have the trucks. The roads need to be cleared. Some bridges replaced. We have a unit in the army that does that. The Army Corp Of Engineers.
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AceOfFlames posted:Hey, remember how Tesla batteries were proof that Elon Musk totally cares about the climate? Hydrogen-Oxygen rockets are pretty clean. And you can create hydrogen from water + electricity.
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AceOfFlames posted:Hey, remember how Tesla batteries were proof that Elon Musk totally cares about the climate? He owns a battery company so it wasn't a big surprise when he announced he wanted to feel these Rockets with solar power.
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Guess I jumped the gun then. Sorry. It's been a bad week.
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I am legit convinced that half of what Elon Musk throws out there is just him loving with people to see what they will believe.
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Morbus posted:I am legit convinced that half of what Elon Musk throws out there is just him loving with people to see what they will believe. Eh, futurists tend to inhale their farts quite deeply.
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Sep 30, 2017 00:35
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I too complain about hydrocarbon production by solar power.
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VideoGameVet posted:Hydrogen-Oxygen rockets are pretty clean. And you can create hydrogen from water + electricity. Yeah but upper atmosphere water vapor is pretty bad for the climate, so I'd wait for an independent LCA before getting excited.
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Musk's infatuation with a manned Mars mission can be cast as fiddling while Rome (the earth) burns. It's an expensive vanity project that diverts resources from addressing the serious problems here on earth. However exactly the same can be said about my entire energy-intensive field so who am I to judge? I think there's a discussion to be had as to whether it's ethical to pursue certain lines of scientific research given their high carbon footprint and low likelihood of producing useful applications in the next 100 years (if ever). It's not like climate refugees 50 years from now are going to appreciate the effort spent measuring various parameters of the standard model to the nth decimal place.
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Nocturtle posted:Musk's infatuation with a manned Mars mission can be cast as fiddling while Rome (the earth) burns. It's an expensive vanity project that diverts resources from addressing the serious problems here on earth. However exactly the same can be said about my entire energy-intensive field so who am I to judge? I think there's a discussion to be had as to whether it's ethical to pursue certain lines of scientific research given their high carbon footprint and low likelihood of producing useful applications in the next 100 years (if ever). It's not like climate refugees 50 years from now are going to appreciate the effort spent measuring various parameters of the standard model to the nth decimal place. But Earth is a basket and some stupid analogy about eggs!
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Nocturtle posted:Musk's infatuation with a manned Mars mission can be cast as fiddling while Rome (the earth) burns. It's an expensive vanity project that diverts resources from addressing the serious problems here on earth. However exactly the same can be said about my entire energy-intensive field so who am I to judge? I think there's a discussion to be had as to whether it's ethical to pursue certain lines of scientific research given their high carbon footprint and low likelihood of producing useful applications in the next 100 years (if ever). It's not like climate refugees 50 years from now are going to appreciate the effort spent measuring various parameters of the standard model to the nth decimal place. Lol SpaceX pays for Musk's clean energy projects. I know at least within chemistry going green is a pretty big thing, not least because paying people to come pick up your waste solvents is expensive and if you can do it in water it's a lot cheaper to run.
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Arglebargle III posted:Lol SpaceX pays for Musk's clean energy projects. Huh? Of all the Musk companies, SpaceX isn't the one paying the bills for the other ones.
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This is a really questionable line of reasoning since SpaceX isn't a government entity and it's not even a particularly good target if we're going to discuss the degree that businesses need to be socially responsible and answerable for their actions. I'm not an Elon Musk fan, but he's really not worth complaining about when there are literal cartoon villains intent on loving up the planet for tiny amounts of short term gain. Like maybe the answer is full socialism now and nationalize everything, but even if that's the case it'd be pretty absurd to start with companies like Tesla/SpaceX that are largely harmless from a climate perspective. Paradoxish fucked around with this message at 07:03 on Sep 30, 2017 |
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