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skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

The biggest problem with MS right now, beyond the obvious poo poo, is the lack of documentation. Or BAD documentation.

Pretty sure MS is going to be pushing InTune + AutoPilot pretty hard in the coming years, so if you're an SCCM shop don't be surprised if you see lots of feature updates directed towards MDM and mobility over all else.

Their doc quality went to poo poo after they laid off a bunch of folks a few years ago. It's disappointing

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Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

underlig posted:

What are other people using for SPLA monitoring / information gathering?

We're an MSP and the SPLA-licenses are a big part of our monthly billing, but when me and my colleague started nine months ago there was no documentation on how the reporting was done or calculated. All the old technicians left.

There's a powershell-script that polls our AD for mail-accounts, groups them by customer and spits out a big excel-file. The script have bugs/limitations as we've discovered when we decided one month to do a manual count just to be sure, it also takes my collague hours each month to calculate. (I've been "busy" with other stuff at each months end luckily so i've never actually done the report myself).

We got a huge scolding when that manual verification showed a big difference compared the previous report, we also got a huge one last week when i counted our Datacenter licenses and came up with a number that was half of what had been reported for the last 12 months. I did not know that while Datacenter 2012r2 counts two cpus per license, Datacenter 2012r2 through SPLA counts one cpu per license.

I've only ever seen terrible home grown scripts for SPLA tracking. The fact that the rules for SPLA are largely unique to SPLA and that they change from time to time has always ended up requiring us to do at least some kind of manual sanity checking before submitting our monthly usage report.

Sacred Cow posted:

Not sure if this is the right place to ask but, my company is looking to set up some sort of "Windows 10 Desktop on Demand" environment in the cloud. We basically want the ability to stand up about 100 computers with our essential applications in an inclement weather situation like a snow storm that will allow our call center employees to work from home. Afterwards just shut them down and delete the instances. We're already running in Azure but the options are limited to Citrix XenDesktop which has a monthly charge and pretty convoluted pricing. AWS instancing looks like an option but can't seem to find any documentation that doesn't lead to Amazon Workstation services which is monthly and persistent profiles. Has anyone stood up something like this?

We've already thought of giving out cheap laptops with VPN but our accounting department isn't too hot on the idea of buying 100 laptops to keep on standby and only be used a few times a year.

I've seen 3rd parties stepping in to help with this somewhat: https://mycloudit.com/

Sacred Cow
Aug 13, 2007

Maneki Neko posted:

I've seen 3rd parties stepping in to help with this somewhat: https://mycloudit.com/

Thanks. I'm adding this company to my findings. The business is demanding a solution sooner then later. These past two hurricanes scared the poo poo out of the owners which uncapped my budget on the project :homebrew:

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Is there a way to export a users DLs or my own as a non-exchange admin?

I've seen this done before and not just by expanding the S4B contact card.

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Tab8715 posted:

Is there a way to export a users DLs or my own as a non-exchange admin?

I've seen this done before and not just by expanding the S4B contact card.

how many DLs?

Open one in outlook and do save as...

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Open the user in Outlook? How exactly?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Tab8715 posted:

Open the user in Outlook? How exactly?
Pretty sure they're saying to open the DL in Outlook.

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

I have been tasked with creating some kind of 'Document approval workflow' in Sharepoint. I know nothing about Sharepoint. Exactly how screwed am I?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Mr. Clark2 posted:

I have been tasked with creating some kind of 'Document approval workflow' in Sharepoint. I know nothing about Sharepoint. Exactly how screwed am I?
Online or on-prem?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

You can probably figure it out but if they're heaping Sharepoint dev on your plate too I would either demand a lot more money or start looking for a different job because gently caress That

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Mr. Clark2 posted:

I have been tasked with creating some kind of 'Document approval workflow' in Sharepoint. I know nothing about Sharepoint. Exactly how screwed am I?

This product has been a lifesaver: https://www.infowisesolutions.com/ufapp.aspx

Mr. Clark2
Sep 17, 2003

Rocco sez: Oh man, what a bummer. Woof.

anthonypants posted:

Online or on-prem?

Online.
And yeah, I'm worried about becoming a sharepoint admin/developer because of this. Hopefully this is just a one-off.

nexxai
Jul 17, 2002

quack quack bjork
Fun Shoe

Mr. Clark2 posted:

Hopefully this is just a one-off.
lmfao

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Mr. Clark2 posted:

Online.
And yeah, I'm worried about becoming a sharepoint admin/developer because of this. Hopefully this is just a one-off.
Check this poo poo out https://flow.microsoft.com/en-us/
There's also an O365 version of Google Forms/SurveyMonkey/et al but I don't know if everyone has access to it yet. It started off as education-only and I think it's still in preview. https://forms.office.com

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


BangersInMyKnickers posted:

You can probably figure it out but if they're heaping Sharepoint dev on your plate too I would either demand a lot more money or start looking for a different job because gently caress That

skipdogg
Nov 29, 2004
Resident SRT-4 Expert

Mr. Clark2 posted:

Online.
And yeah, I'm worried about becoming a sharepoint admin/developer because of this. Hopefully this is just a one-off.

Famous last words

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

Cool! Graph API allow for quick and incredibly simple creation of mobile apps in Intune.

Oh God! Uploading app content into azure storage programmatically is the least intuitive thing ever!

orange sky
May 7, 2007

Sudden Loud Noise posted:

Cool! Graph API allow for quick and incredibly simple creation of mobile apps in Intune.

Oh God! Uploading app content into azure storage programmatically is the least intuitive thing ever!

What language are you using to interact with Graph API?

Sudden Loud Noise
Feb 18, 2007

orange sky posted:

What language are you using to interact with Graph API?

PowerShell.

Compared to the SCCM SDK it's the simplest process ever.

Drastically reducing capabilities makes things easier! Who would have guessed?

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


Microsoft have updated Intune to use the Azure portal, and not gotten around to updating their documentation yet (which is becoming annoyingly typical). Any ideas how to push firewall policies to Win10 clients? The docs keep mentioning policies, but the only policies in the Azure portal version of this product are compliance policies, which are checks rather that config items.

Briantist
Dec 5, 2003

The Professor does not approve of your post.
Lipstick Apathy

Sudden Loud Noise posted:

Drastically reducing capabilities makes things easier! Who would have guessed?

Apple

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


I don't know where else to ask this: can someone explain to me how xendesktop offline mode actually works? Like, it's clearly not a VM running right?

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Most VDI software has some kind of mechanism where you can check your desktop VM image out from the server and run it locally on a laptop if you're going to be someplace without reliable internet service, then check it back in and merge the images when you're done. Sounds a lot like that.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


It synchs your online application data with locsl offline vms, should you have elected to deploy this way

Internet Explorer
Jun 1, 2005





That sounds like a loving nightmare and there is no way I would deploy such a thing.

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


It just seems like something that will cause endless problems when a C-level insists on having two laptops, or a laptop and a desktop, and can't wrap their head around how syncing handles conflict resolution. And all they can tell you is "this has always been a problem and you never manage to fix it :argh:"

Dans Macabre
Apr 24, 2004


Thanks everyone

Internet Explorer posted:

That sounds like a loving nightmare and there is no way I would deploy such a thing.

Completely agreed

angry armadillo
Jul 26, 2010
We have never really had any software on our network for deploying software updates quickly but now we are starting to look it. I'm talking about the latest version of Java, Flash, PDF reading software etc.

SCCM has been mentioned which would be nice, but I do recall reading this forum and a number of people singing the praises of some alternative software on this forum.

Does anyone know what I am talking about and could they tell me the name of that software as I cannot for the life of me remember


If that doesn't make any sense, we are looking for software to deploy everything :) any suggestions that I can pass on for the procurement people to look at. We are currently a sub company of a global company -the global company have a person employed to program something that takes care of all this. The big company have said they wont do it for us, so we have identified a need!

Thanks Ants
May 21, 2004

#essereFerrari


PDQ Deploy is a thread favourite

Wrath of the Bitch King
May 11, 2005

Research confirms that black is a color like silver is a color, and that beyond black is clarity.
If you have money, SCCM. If you don't, PDQ.

Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Wrath of the Bitch King posted:

If you have time, SCCM. If you don't, PDQ.

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
I'm setting up a new server for work which requires:

- 2 vCPU
- 8GB RAM
-1TB of storage
- Win Server 2016
- SQL Express 2016

and I have to set it up on either AWS or Azure.

Is the pricing comparable for either? I would prefer to use AWS, I just wanted to be sure that Microsoft doesn't do some deep discount for putting Windows Servers on Azure or anything.

When I use pricing calculators for either site, they ask me if it is SQL Standard or Web but don't mention SQL Express. Or is Express some kind of free tier?

Lastly is there a cheaper way of doing 1TB of storage on AWS than EBS? Should I be using S3 (even though it blew the gently caress up a year ago)?

Methanar
Sep 26, 2013

by the sex ghost

Zero VGS posted:

I'm setting up a new server for work which requires:

- 2 vCPU
- 8GB RAM
-1TB of storage
- Win Server 2016
- SQL Express 2016

and I have to set it up on either AWS or Azure.

Is the pricing comparable for either? I would prefer to use AWS, I just wanted to be sure that Microsoft doesn't do some deep discount for putting Windows Servers on Azure or anything.

When I use pricing calculators for either site, they ask me if it is SQL Standard or Web but don't mention SQL Express. Or is Express some kind of free tier?

Lastly is there a cheaper way of doing 1TB of storage on AWS than EBS? Should I be using S3 (even though it blew the gently caress up a year ago)?

Consider using the SQL PaaS rather than VMs.

Gucci Loafers
May 20, 2006

Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?


Express is free but the database has size limitations.

Azure Windows VMs have licensing included in price which makes things easier.

Walked
Apr 14, 2003

Zero VGS posted:

I'm setting up a new server for work which requires:

- 2 vCPU
- 8GB RAM
-1TB of storage
- Win Server 2016
- SQL Express 2016

and I have to set it up on either AWS or Azure.

Is the pricing comparable for either? I would prefer to use AWS, I just wanted to be sure that Microsoft doesn't do some deep discount for putting Windows Servers on Azure or anything.

When I use pricing calculators for either site, they ask me if it is SQL Standard or Web but don't mention SQL Express. Or is Express some kind of free tier?

Lastly is there a cheaper way of doing 1TB of storage on AWS than EBS? Should I be using S3 (even though it blew the gently caress up a year ago)?

You're not going to use RDS for SQL Express. So you'd just provision an EC2 instance and install SQL Express yourself. RDS is a nice option to reduce overhead administration if you can budget it, but that's be SQL Standard

EBS is going to be the way to go for block storage really. If you're storing objects like images, S3 is a good option. But based on your questions you probably want an EBS volume.

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum

Zero VGS posted:

I'm setting up a new server for work which requires:

- 2 vCPU
- 8GB RAM
-1TB of storage
- Win Server 2016
- SQL Express 2016

and I have to set it up on either AWS or Azure.

Is the pricing comparable for either? I would prefer to use AWS, I just wanted to be sure that Microsoft doesn't do some deep discount for putting Windows Servers on Azure or anything.

When I use pricing calculators for either site, they ask me if it is SQL Standard or Web but don't mention SQL Express. Or is Express some kind of free tier?

Lastly is there a cheaper way of doing 1TB of storage on AWS than EBS? Should I be using S3 (even though it blew the gently caress up a year ago)?
I would imagine they don't include SQL Express since it's free.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Azure compute pricing includes all os and cal licensing for windows vm's.

Also, if you really needed sql express, you would install it as an application in your vm.

I might come back and write more when I get back to my desk.

Edit:

Unless there is a specific reason you need SQL Express, you should just provision the SQL PaaS from either provider. It'll be cheaper per month and easier to manage.

The Fool fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Sep 29, 2017

Zero VGS
Aug 16, 2002
ASK ME ABOUT HOW HUMAN LIVES THAT MADE VIDEO GAME CONTROLLERS ARE WORTH MORE
Lipstick Apathy
It says AWS does not require Windows CALs either if you spin up a Windows Server AMI:

https://aws.amazon.com/windows/resources/licensing/

The Fool posted:

Unless there is a specific reason you need SQL Express, you should just provision the SQL PaaS from either provider. It'll be cheaper per month and easier to manage.

I guess the app wants Server 2016 because it also requires IIS. So, IIS and SQL Express. It technically only requires 80GB storage, but we also need about 1TB worth of video recording history.

The Fool
Oct 16, 2003


Zero VGS posted:

It says AWS does not require Windows CALs either if you spin up a Windows Server AMI:

https://aws.amazon.com/windows/resources/licensing/


I guess the app wants Server 2016 because it also requires IIS. So, IIS and SQL Express. It technically only requires 80GB storage, but we also need about 1TB worth of video recording history.



Azure pricing calculator, if it helps.

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Maneki Neko
Oct 27, 2000

Zero VGS posted:

It says AWS does not require Windows CALs either if you spin up a Windows Server AMI:

https://aws.amazon.com/windows/resources/licensing/

Correct, AWS is likely reporting usage via SPLA, which doesn't require CALs.

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