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I have a hard time taking Trump seriously as a master manipulator. He's a tasteless bastard that wants other rich people to think of him as classy. And even as president they don't like him. If the media went a day or two without talking about him he'd probably nuke the entire planet just for attention.
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quote:milk milk lemonade posted: I was thinking that this is still kinda sufficiently in the basketball orbit but I dunno what do people think?
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Sep 30, 2017 12:05
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http://www.crmvet.org/docs/60s_crm_public-opinion.pdf    Don't worry about 'public opinion' or what the 'optics' are. Protest justly and history will prove you right.
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Sep 30, 2017 12:16
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Entertainment in general seems for some reason particularly susceptible to the "stick to sports!" or "stick to movies/tv!" reaction even though people in literally every other profession have no problem sharing their own views in various forums be they public or private Imagine Lebron telling some dude to stick to fixing cars or stick to punching out spreadsheets
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Sep 30, 2017 12:36
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Intruder posted:Entertainment in general seems for some reason particularly susceptible to the "stick to sports!" or "stick to movies/tv!" reaction even though people in literally every other profession have no problem sharing their own views in various forums be they public or private Speaking specifically about sports (I'm not so confident in speaking about other entertainment), I think it's that sports irreducibly trades in sympathy. For all other reasons you may be watching and participating as a fan, at the end of the day you're not just cheering for (e.g.) LeBron, but you're investing yourself in his personal success. LeBron making an unignorable political statement — be it about Trump or Trayvon or racism in general — will force some fans to confront the fact that they're not meaningfully allied with LeBron, and what they value and he values are different. It creates some sort of imaginative resistance. There's probably also something about pro sports spectacle mediating civic participation, but I guess that's where my mind is at now.
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Sep 30, 2017 12:55
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Hand Knit posted:I was thinking that this is still kinda sufficiently in the basketball orbit but I dunno what do people think? The discussion has seemed civil and there's plenty of basketball chat not being drowned out. Invisible hand working.
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Sep 30, 2017 13:22
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Intruder posted:Entertainment in general seems for some reason particularly susceptible to the "stick to sports!" or "stick to movies/tv!" reaction even though people in literally every other profession have no problem sharing their own views in various forums be they public or private It's almost like film celebrities and sports figures have a larger platform than the local mechanic. I guarantee if a bunch of athletes were constantly talking about how great Trump was, they'd be told to stick to sports or worse. It's happened in this very forum.
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Sep 30, 2017 14:22
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nwo hatchet man posted:It's almost like film celebrities and sports figures have a larger platform than the local mechanic. I guarantee if a bunch of athletes were constantly talking about how great Trump was, they'd be told to stick to sports or worse. It's happened in this very forum. There's not a single athlete here. Ridiculous
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Sep 30, 2017 14:40
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Time to doxx myself, I am Carlos Boozer
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Sep 30, 2017 14:43
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R.D. Mangles posted:Time to doxx myself, I am Carlos Boozer How serendipitous! I am the manufacturer of Bigen hair coloring for men and would like to get an endorsement quote for our packaging.
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Sep 30, 2017 14:53
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Cool Buff Man posted:There's not a single athlete here. Ridiculous im a posting athlete
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Sep 30, 2017 14:58
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For the thunder and rocket fans out there let's all bow our heads and appreciate how far we've came since this dreadful day http://www.espn.com/nba/game?gameId=400578436
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Sep 30, 2017 14:59
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R.D. Mangles posted:Time to doxx myself, I am Carlos Boozer Thanks for screwing over a blind man bud, Lebron could have used your help back then.
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Sep 30, 2017 15:09
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Rip Giannis' dad
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Sep 30, 2017 15:14
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I'm Wang Zhi Zhi
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Sep 30, 2017 15:20
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the next great social media party will be when we find all their Yelp profiles
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Sep 30, 2017 16:36
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Ghost Dog posted:i cant predict elections and im not gonna argue about why exactly we are in this situation despite the fact that everyone hates cheetoh hitler but the only actual metrics we have for what you are talking about all say the polar opposite of what you are. he is not spinning things in his favor, hes steadily losing support on every single issue he touches. it puts the lie to this idea that politically active athletes are somehow poisoning the well. i guess his "groundswell of support" is that 25% of people The turnout is so low in US Elections that if a candidate could guarantee 25% of the population vote for them he or she would probably win all 50 states. Neither candidate in last election even got close to 25%. People conflate wide polls of approval with election results which are usually head-to-head contests between two extremely unpopular people. tanglewood1420 posted:http://www.crmvet.org/docs/60s_crm_public-opinion.pdf This is totally ignoring the role that class plays in these kinds of debates in the public. Working class black people protesting against laws that literally segregate them out of making a living does indeed have much different "optics" than millionaire athletes protesting generalized societal oppression.   -- Source Many other polling agencies of all political stripes ran polls in the past week and none of the ones I've seen have come in marginally different. These are the kind of results the NBA owners are looking at and making business decisions about. The most visible coaches and players in the league are still allowed to publicly make very political comments as individuals and the league office is fully supporting of them, so again, it's not analogous at all to either the 1960s or the reality of most working class people of any race today who would likely be fired for political protest at work.
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Sep 30, 2017 16:38
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"Don't worry about opinion polling in response to protests, it doesn't matter" "Here are some opinion polls that prove you wrong"
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Sep 30, 2017 16:56
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Millionaire athletes do not have to worry about police brutality even if they are minorities and they shouldn't protest it because of the optics. Also, who is Thabo Sefolosha?
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Sep 30, 2017 17:02
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tanglewood1420 posted:"Don't worry about opinion polling in response to protests, it doesn't matter" i may only have 1/1000th of a percent support, but since turnout is below 50% im 50 times More Likely To Win.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:03
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Brolander posted:im a posting athlete I made the Tri-Parish team in high school and have only gotten better since then.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:05
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Libertine posted:The turnout is so low in US Elections that if a candidate could guarantee 25% of the population vote for them he or she would probably win all 50 states. Neither candidate in last election even got close to 25%. People conflate wide polls of approval with election results which are usually head-to-head contests between two extremely unpopular people. the only person conflating them is you btw. and very badly.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:12
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Dexo posted:Because it's loving trash? Well sure, but it's the same sort of trash that's always made? Seemed like everybody all outraged-up because they found an overflowing bag of trash in the trash can. I'm always a bit surprised when folks don't watch every commercial at least a bit skeptical, if not antagonistic. To me, it's pretty impossible to watch TV ads and think anything but, "how are they lying to me here?" I mean, when I was younger the big food companies making the cookies for kids were the same conglomerate as was selling cigarettes claiming they were risk free. And genocidal dictators still hire literally the same image consultants as Taco Bell and Nike. PR orgs like Burson & Marsteller, Young & Rubicam, they tend to show up managing things after someone's committed an atrocity. They're the reason you think Tylenol is safe when it's responsible for more ODs than any other medication. They're the reason there are still Important Questions to Be Considered Regarding Fracking, No Evidence It's That Bad. They showed up for BP after the oil platform explosion, for Union Carbide after the Bhopal explosion, the power companies after Three Mile Island, they've represented murderous dictatorships in Argentina, Romania, Indonesia, basically every darn evil thing in the last 30 years and also they make regular ads. It's like, these people work a profession daily servicing the world's most evil causes. Tactlessly failing to apprehend the drive behind moral movements is such a venial sin. "If you're in marketing or advertising--kill yourself." still applies, although it's not nearly as shocking a phrase as it used to be. Nick I heard Young Dolph got shot again is everyone in Memphis okay? I mean emotionally
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Sep 30, 2017 17:30
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ChickenMedium posted:How serendipitous! I am the manufacturer of Bigen hair coloring for men and would like to get an endorsement quote for our packaging. Same, but for Marks-A-Lot
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Sep 30, 2017 17:30
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Jota posted:Millionaire athletes do not have to worry about police brutality even if they are minorities and they shouldn't protest it because of the optics. Well that's ignorant. We should all be worried about police brutality. There has been at least one instance of police mistreating a professional athlete. But I think (hope) you're being facetious anyways.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:32
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quote:UPDATE 2:35 PM ET: Per ESPN’s Adrian Wojnarowski, who had the original report, Schröder was arrested along with several individuals after a fight at 6am, a hookah bar in the Brookhaven neighborhood of Atlanta. From Wojnarowski’s report:
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Sep 30, 2017 17:41
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Sep 30, 2017 17:43
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I mean I know state laws and stuff are different but it's been two or three years since the Morris twins beat the gently caress out of that guy for dating their mom and its still unresolved legally/the league didn't put out any punishment so I have a hard time seeing this affecting Schroder, this season anyways.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:45
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Ghetto SuperCzar posted:A hookah bar? Is Dennis 15? Nah just German
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Zogo posted:That's true but that's a different issue. I never said most Americans like his tweets. Only ~10% of Ds want him to tweet according to that poll. When it comes to election day I don't believe there will be many voters going into the booth saying "I was going to vote for Trump but he sent too many tweets." 
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Libertine posted:The turnout is so low in US Elections that if a candidate could guarantee 25% of the population vote for them he or she would probably win all 50 states. Neither candidate in last election even got close to 25%. People conflate wide polls of approval with election results which are usually head-to-head contests between two extremely unpopular people. Thy both got ~30% of eligible voters actually, which is also probably the sample pop for those surveys. So yes the people who disapprove are probably mostly democratic, third party, nor non voters but it seems that a not insignificant proportion of Trump voters are turned off - probably mostly Republican snobs who would never vote otherwise, but it may dampen turnout a bit. EvanTH posted:Well sure, but it's the same sort of trash that's always made? Seemed like everybody all outraged-up because they found an overflowing bag of trash in the trash can. I agree but the deal with that commercial was that for 15 minutes some people stopped eating the trash can and put on the glasses. Zogo posted:Charles Barkley on new schedule: “These poor babies can’t play back-to-back games” Any evidence for this assertion? Turnout was down, he got a lower % of the vote than Romney, and population growth was highest in states he (and republicans generally) won (meaning elevated electoral votes without any necessary corresponding growth in voters). The legendary working class Obama counties (like here in WV) went Republican largely because turnout collapsed. Evidence of both candidates cheating to goowe their totals and they still had a participation rate drop, that's not a sign of a realignments it's a sign of collapse.
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Sep 30, 2017 17:49
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https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/914168897477251078 Doesn't sound like a huge deal but losing any ground in the bloodbath West probably isn't good
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/914168897477251078 Pop firing a warning shot in the Rest Wars. Prepare for made up injuries on a new and amazing level
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Sep 30, 2017 17:52
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https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/913931155732234240 aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
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Spite posted:I have a hard time taking Trump seriously as a master manipulator. He's a tasteless bastard that wants other rich people to think of him as classy. And even as president they don't like him. I mean, you don't have to be a genius to hit on an extremely effective marketing strategy. But he's not fully stupid or anything, just one of the world's most relentless egomaniacs. it's kinda hilarious than the current President Of The Most Powerful Nation On Earth was one of the no-chance fringe candidate of Actual Con Artists* who run their campaigns as a (somewhat common) scam to get free national news advertisement, promote a book, accept a fuckload of contributions then shutter your campaign and deposit the balance into your personal charity (Gingrich has done this like every Primary since the early 90s). But then all the other candidates were even more terrible and his opposition helped promote him because they thought he'd be easy to beat. We live in a very stupid and corrupt reality *now the preferred nomenclature over gendered terms such as con-man or con-ma'am The Maestro posted:Well that's ignorant. We should all be worried about police brutality. There has been at least one instance of police mistreating a professional athlete. But I think (hope) you're being facetious anyways. haha please don't edit out punchlines before you respond to jokes
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DeimosRising posted:Pop firing a warning shot in the Rest Wars. Prepare for made up injuries on a new and amazing level P.C. (Players Convalescing) culture run amok
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DeimosRising posted:I agree but the deal with that commercial was that for 15 minutes some people stopped eating the trash can and put on the glasses.  --  ________________________________ ->  ________________________________ --  CONSUME OBEY _______________________________ -> 
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Sep 30, 2017 18:10
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AggressivelyStupid posted:https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/913931155732234240 Andray Blatche has gained some weight but otherwise looks good man
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Sep 30, 2017 18:21
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Are they going to sit or stand tonight? After the trump feud you'd think some of the warriors would. But they have their "brands" to worry about.
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morestuff posted:https://twitter.com/TimBontemps/status/914168897477251078 This worries me because he had two separate stints earlier this calendar year of missing time due to right quad "contusions". Makes me worried about a chronic thing. He seems like the type of guy that's terrible at resting too.
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