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Mr Phillby posted:It is maddening how often you see animation smears being posted as examples of bad animation or mistakes. I also remember how many people hated the Pain vs. Naruto fight for going off model despite it being legit the best piece of animation in entire run of that stiff rear end show. Pardon the weeb moment but Pain vs Naruto was one of the laziest fights the entire anime had and shippuden already have some incredibly sloppy quality. Lots of Still frames, monologues and flashback sequences, and when the fighting does happen it's at most a couple of minutes and it doesn't look that good. Sasuke vs Killer-B is a better animated fight as well as The other Akatsuki fights like Sasori vs Chiyi/Sakura. Although Tte best animated fights in my opinion happen all the way up to the valley of the end fight. After that it becomes Russian roulette.
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Brought To You By posted:Pardon the weeb moment but Pain vs Naruto was one of the laziest fights the entire anime had and shippuden already have some incredibly sloppy quality. Lots of Still frames, monologues and flashback sequences, and when the fighting does happen it's at most a couple of minutes and it doesn't look that good. Sasuke vs Killer-B is a better animated fight as well as The other Akatsuki fights like Sasori vs Chiyi/Sakura.
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Mr Phillby posted:Tbh I stopped watching soon after. Still my point is that it was that that one episode featured animation worlds more loose and expressive than anything up until that point and it fukken ruled. And the fans hated it. The reason people didn't like it is the same reason people that complain about SU. It looks bad. Having characters warp physically constantly, and excluding cherry-picked smear frames, is something of a turn off for some people. The famous sequence when pain goes for a punch Naruto and turns into play-doh is exactly what doesn't work with going off model. It's expressive yeah but "loose" is a hard sell when visual clarity and consistency are the currency. Now there are series that play loose with their animation but that is there from episode 1. I remember a series from years ago that had some monster hunter that fell in love with his target and the quality was all over the place, but again, it's an intended aesthetic. It worked in some cases but the show still had a cheap look to it overall.
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My webcomic deals with the sensitive parts of life, and all the little joys of our journey in this world.
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friends, i am simply myself
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The real question here is Am I allowed to post bird porn and fart pictures
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 soon the magic will happen and these seeds will blossom into tiny perfect quails
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Off topic(and how magical it is), I bought and fried quail eggs today for the first time. They were exquisite.
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they're so sweet and nutty, much like the birds themselves
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Brought To You By posted:The reason people didn't like it is the same reason people that complain about SU. It looks bad. Having characters warp physically constantly, and excluding cherry-picked smear frames, is something of a turn off for some people. The famous sequence when pain goes for a punch Naruto and turns into play-doh is exactly what doesn't work with going off model. It's expressive yeah but "loose" is a hard sell when visual clarity and consistency are the currency. That's not really what's complained about SU, though. SU is inconsistent between episodes, but individual episodes will be be largely internally consistent with their own models.
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Brought To You By posted:The reason people didn't like it is the same reason people that complain about SU. It looks bad. Having characters warp physically constantly, and excluding cherry-picked smear frames, is something of a turn off for some people. The famous sequence when pain goes for a punch Naruto and turns into play-doh is exactly what doesn't work with going off model. It's expressive yeah but "loose" is a hard sell when visual clarity and consistency are the currency.
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MikeJF posted:That's not really what's complained about SU, though. SU is inconsistent between episodes, but individual episodes will be be largely internally consistent with their own models. I'm pretty sure I do remember some of the instances of varying features during episodes that isn't just Amethyst doing her usual shape shifting but I could be wrong. Don't know where on the previous pages I read that it happens in SU during episodes; but whatever I thought combined with the Pain vs Naruto fight being referenced (which is multi-episode but the off-model moments happen within the same sequences as well) led me to believe that it's not just just differences in sizes between episodes and smear frames. WrathOfBlade posted:Prioritizing expressivity over consistency is almost the dictionary definition of a cartoon
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I'm sorry for what I have wrought
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Crocoswine posted:I'm sorry for what I have wrought No, it's my fault. I should have known better than to utter the spell that is "steven universe".
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Pavlov posted:No, it's my fault. I should have known better than to utter the spell that is "steven universe". Well on one hand we have people talking about design and animation and artistic fads and things that are fairly relevant to webcomics, and on the other hand people who... just kinda started weirdly screeching the moment it was mentioned? I mean, come on, this is the Webcomics thread. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 07:14 on Oct 1, 2017 |
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MikeJF posted:Well on one hand we have people talking about design and animation and artistic fads and things that are fairly relevant to webcomics, and on the other hand people who... just kinda started weirdly screeching the moment it was mentioned? It's because no one mentioned demons and/or Poppy recently, it's necessary for the thread to survive.
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Quick, someone complain about Questionable Content being unreasonably successful for its mediocrity!
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Pavlov posted:No, it's my fault. I should have known better than to utter the spell that is "steven universe". Power Word: Discourse
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PMush Perfect posted:Quick, someone complain about Questionable Content being unreasonably successful for its mediocrity! People really need to accept that a healthy industry where people can make a living is going to involve a lot of things you think are mediocre being successful.
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Brought To You By posted:The reason people didn't like it is the same reason people that complain about SU. It looks bad. Having characters warp physically constantly, and excluding cherry-picked smear frames, is something of a turn off for some people. The famous sequence when pain goes for a punch Naruto and turns into play-doh is exactly what doesn't work with going off model. It's expressive yeah but "loose" is a hard sell when visual clarity and consistency are the currency.
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Rand Brittain posted:People really need to accept that a healthy industry where people can make a living is going to involve a lot of things you think are mediocre being successful. What's funny about a cat that likes lasagna but hates mondays?
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Cat Mattress posted:What's funny about a cat that likes lasagna but hates mondays?
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Rand Brittain posted:People really need to accept that a healthy industry where people can make a living is going to involve a lot of things you think are mediocre being successful. A healthy industry is where lovely artists make 6 figures while good artists make sub minimum wage, got it
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PMush Perfect posted:Quick, someone complain about Questionable Content being unreasonably successful for its mediocrity! Typical Pubbie posted:A healthy industry is where lovely artists make 6 figures while good artists make sub minimum wage, got it
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I'm here to help.
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I mean it's not like it's different from literally any other art form. Is there any medium where the most popular things are also well-respected?
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If quality reflected success, Justified would have been the TV Show of the decade instead of Breaking Bad
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If there's something you like that you want other people to read and pay money for, post about it, make a tweet, whatever, that'll help new stuff more than complaining about someone else's paycheck 
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Tenebrais posted:I mean it's not like it's different from literally any other art form. Is there any medium where the most popular things are also well-respected? Excrement sculpture.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:Excrement sculpture. Nah, everything in that field's pretty lovely
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Death-camp architecture.
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Mercury Hat posted:If there's something you like that you want other people to read and pay money for, post about it, make a tweet, whatever, that'll help new stuff more than complaining about someone else's paycheck Call of the Sentinel Chapter 3 just finished: http://www.callofthesentinel.com/comic/ch3-hiatus/
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Typical Pubbie posted:A healthy industry is where lovely artists make 6 figures while good artists make sub minimum wage, got it If we're going to call any creative field healthy absolutely
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Mercury Hat posted:If there's something you like that you want other people to read and pay money for, post about it, make a tweet, whatever, that'll help new stuff more than complaining about someone else's paycheck How dare you suggest people have agency to fix their problems.
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A Wizard of Goatse posted:If we're going to call any creative field healthy absolutely
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my webcomic: a harrowing tale of tits, rear end, and the unspeakable place where they intersect
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the old ceremony posted:my webcomic: a harrowing tale of tits, rear end, and the unspeakable place where they intersect
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Crocoswine posted:a full body taint
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