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Wii U and 3DS games had digital manuals that you could access from the home screen, and those were completely fine and convenient. I don't know why they got rid of those or why people think adding an unnecessary QR code scanning or an app would be better.
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mancalamania posted:Wii U and 3DS games had digital manuals that you could access from the home screen, and those were completely fine and convenient. I don't know why they got rid of those or why people think adding an unnecessary QR code scanning or an app would be better. It's not an issue of better or worse per se (although I would argue it's worse) insofar as it's a race to the bottom. It's like theaters no longer distributing playbills before a show or airlines no longer providing a free beverage. Shammypants fucked around with this message at 15:58 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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XyrlocShammypants posted:It's not an issue of better or worse per se (although I would argue it's worse) insofar as it's a race to the bottom. It's like theaters no longer distributing playbills before a show or airplanes no longer providing a free beverage. The thinking behind it is almost certainly that you can check it on your smartphone/tablet while playing the game, like you did as a kid with the physical manual/game guide.
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I liked and appreciated the digital manuals included with 3DS and Wii U software but frankly, I a) never really used them and b) doesn't make sense to me to put useful information only in the manual when you could just it put it in the game. So personally, when I use a guide with a game, it's generally something I've pulled up on my phone, e.g. I just uploaded the Earthbound player's guide pdf to Google Books for my future reference.
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SatansBestBuddy posted:Ironically, speed tests have shown that the digital download version of BotW has faster loading times than the cart version. Counterpoint: I'm not downloading 13GB+ over the Switch's lovely WiFi from Nintendo's molasses CDNs. Hopefully Stardew comes out this week, I need something to fill the void between now and the Destiny2/Mario Wallet-pocalypse week.
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Manky posted:b) doesn't make sense to me to put useful information only in the manual when you could just it put it in the game. When I first started playing BotW I was really confused about how saving worked, for example. It took me a while to figure out that it keeps your last manual save and six (?) auto-saves. But I didn't know if auto-saves would clear out your manual saves or how that all worked. That's the kind of thing that instruction manuals explain well but instead I had to Google and find conflicting answers. Of course, the "point" of BotW is you're just supposed to jump in and explore around, and maybe I can understand that, but after playing many generations of Zelda games including LoZ where saving was actually a complicated process that could result in a lost game if done wrong, I want to look up how saving works. Plus, the idea of just diving into BotW doesn't/won't apply to every Switch game. Does the Wii U version of BotW have a digital manual? Is it useful?
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Yeah the Switch games have done an admirable job of trying to make the manuals unnecessary, but in practice I think a bare-bones manual is still useful. It's important to have all of that information in one concise document. For instance in Splatoon 2, information how the different ranked modes work is hidden in a submenu on the Lobby screen, whereas information about what weapon specials do is hidden in a submenu on the equipping screen. It's not a big deal, but it would be nice to have all of that information collected together in one place. I can't imagine what a nightmare Xenoblade 2 will be to play without the manual, given how often I had to reference the manual in Xenoblade X.
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ExcessBLarg! posted:They could do both, though. This is a reasonable complaint. Don't you agree it would be better/best if there was an explicit, in-game explanation for how saves work? Like a question mark next to the in-game save function that you could select and it describes the interaction of manual saves and auto-saves. I really think good design should eliminate the need for manuals. Not guides, but manuals, sure.
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I do miss the days of getting the game, looking at the artwork on the box/case, then taking out the manual and thumbing through that (great bathroom reading while you take care of business before the upcoming gaming season). It was exciting to see the artwork on the pages and reading the backstory. Then again, I never threw away my game boxes and manuals like a loving degenerate animal.
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Yeah manuals were great coffee table or toilet reading material and I would pay extra for them
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I read my game manuals on the way home from <insert game store here> after my parent's bought the game for me and drove me home
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mandatory lesbian posted:just quoting this to agree that all the 100% digital people are selfish bastards You're the selfish bastard! I loan my entire console!
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Any reviews (at this point, even of ANY version) of Battlechasers Nightwar? I'm curious. And Interested.
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October 5th. Stardew then. https://stardewvalley.net/stardew-valley-coming-soon-to-nintendo-switch/ Kernel Monsoon fucked around with this message at 17:03 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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https://twitter.com/ConcernedApe/status/914882539818381312
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Golf Story beat them to the punch. Who needs Stardew now?
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NOE confirm also https://twitter.com/NintendoUK/status/914883069047398400
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I might get Stardew for my girlfriend but I am afraid she will like it and won't be able to play my Switch.
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And everyone who was excited for Stardew and is playing Golf Story or Picross won't buy it now until after Odyssey comes out and is beaten, leaving the devs to wonder where all the excitement went.
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Beastie posted:I might get Stardew for my girlfriend but I am afraid she will like it and won't be able to play my Switch. Obvious solution is to dump the girlfriend.
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oh wow, stardew in three days?? i haven't even finished golf story yet!
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Supernorn posted:October 5th. Whomever bought you your new AV should've linked to the drama that spawned it. 
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glassyalabolas posted:Obvious solution is to dump the girlfriend. Wait, I just remembered, there's co-op right? Local?
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Woah a bet a lot of Americans looked at that and thought it was coming out May 10th.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Whomever bought you your new AV should've linked to the drama that spawned it. I don't have avatars enabled.
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Yessssss I'm going on a flight Thursday night so this is perfect! Stardewnow!
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*stumbles into the thread* STARDEW WHE-- Oh
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Just reposting again.VideoGames posted:NEW THREAD RULE:
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All I need now is a release date for Hollow Knight
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Mahoning posted:Woah a bet a lot of Americans looked at that and thought it was coming out May 10th. There's still time. 
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Supernorn posted:I don't have avatars enabled. That's good, you want to change yours without looking preferably
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MarcusSA posted:Yessssss I'm going on a flight Thursday night so this is perfect! Stardewnow! I've got a flight Friday so hell Yea. Stardew... NOW.
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What all is different in this version of Stardew?
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Manky posted:That's good, you want to change yours without looking preferably I think someone might have a chip on their shoulder about something I had nothing to do with. This avatar is clearly the act of a reasonable person. I might just hold onto it.
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Manky posted:Don't you agree it would be better/best if there was an explicit, in-game explanation for how saves work? As another example, one thing I often do when starting a new game is look up the controls in the manual. In BotW the controls are displayed on the pause screen, which is great, but buttons are labeled after you need to use them the first time. I get why that kind of dynamic design is really good--it's less likely to overwhelm players. But when I start a game I'm tuned to figure out what the possible controls are, so I'm at least aware of them even if they're not used until later. Like I just assumed the L button was unused until I got my first rune. Manky posted:I really think good design should eliminate the need for manuals. Some Switch games do come with on-screen manuals but unlike the 3DS (and Wii U although I don't have one) accessing them and their presentation is inconsistent. If manuals aren't going to be a requirement it would've been nice to at least allow games to optionally provide access to one in the home screen +-menu. ExcessBLarg! fucked around with this message at 17:32 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Feenix posted:Any reviews (at this point, even of ANY version) of Battlechasers Nightwar? http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/reviews/battle-chasers-nightwar-review-1757550 https://www.dualshockers.com/battle-chasers-nightwar-review-ps4-pc-switch-xbox-one/ Generally both sites like it even if it's a product of a lovely Unity engine. 20 to 25 hours sounds good for a nice classic turnbased RPG. I think the Switch version comes out later this year due to loving Unity needing updates.
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Is that a new outfit, cause I wouldnt be surprised in they threw in some Nintendo Costumes which is par for the course for indies.
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Did anyone play through Stardew with a controller on PC or I suppose has experience with the PS4 port? Just curious how it's going to feel compared to M/KB.
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PneumonicBook posted:Did anyone play through Stardew with a controller on PC or I suppose has experience with the PS4 port? Just curious how it's going to feel compared to M/KB. I own the XB1 port and while it's obviously made for M/KB (mouse control in some menus etc.) there's really not a problem with it. I also own the PC version and will be buying the Switch version as I have no self control. Run Dodo Run fucked around with this message at 17:40 on Oct 2, 2017 |
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Manky posted:That's good, you want to change yours without looking preferably We're going to need a record for this when people are reading later:
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