glam rock hamhock posted:

To ask the thread a similar question: are there any pays of a game you love that other people seem to hate?

Like, for example, one of my favorite parts of Gunstar Heroes is the dice maze and I was really surprised to find out years later on the internet that people apparently hate that part and consider it a flaw in an otherwise perfect game.

glam rock hamhock posted:

To ask the thread a similar question: are there any pays of a game you love that other people seem to hate?

Like, for example, one of my favorite parts of Gunstar Heroes is the dice maze and I was really surprised to find out years later on the internet that people apparently hate that part and consider it a flaw in an otherwise perfect game.

Ciaphas posted:

people like the dice maze? that's a paddlin'

In Training posted:

I like that modes and maps rotate every 2 hours in Splatoon. But Moray Towers should be deleted from the game

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

glam rock hamhock posted:

I like that stage in concept, but yeah, the actual tower part really drags the level down. It takes way too long to get into the action

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

Bloodline Champions when it was in beta, before they signed on with Funcom.

It's a top-down arena game, kind of like PvP in Guild Wars or WoW but completely divorced from the gear grind. Every ability is a skillshot -- healing, disables, everything except for self-targeted stuff and one or two exceptions. There's zero randomness -- no variance in damage numbers, no randomly bouncing projectiles, nothing.

It has an ingenious system for limiting the power of healing; only a certain percentage of your total health can be "restored health," so for instance if that limit was 40% and you took 80% of your life in damage, you can now never be healed above 60%. So instead of the degenerate situation that results when you make healers too strong -- where you have to prioritize them over everyone else, where everything comes down to focus fire and alpha striking people faster than heals can keep up -- you're incentivized to constantly switch to targets of opportunity and it's actually possible to win fights by attrition. Any modestly deep HP damage will result in a permanent drawback for the guy who got hit, but tiny amount of chip damage do nothing, so you still need to coordinate with your team. It's just such a perfect balance that allows for a much more dynamic flow of combat and means that the most important thing is positioning rather than a fixed, static target priority.

On top of that, the hero design is fantastic. Everyone has seven abilities -- a basic and secondary attack on L and R mouse, a movement ability bound to spacebar, three regular abilities on longer cooldowns and an ultimate built by charge. It hits a really good sweet spot where every character has enough tools to function in a 1v1 setting while also having a distinct flavor and place on a team in 2v2 or 3v3. Towards the end of the beta characters also got EX abilities that were stronger/upgraded versions of two of their base abilities, but cost 40% of an ult meter. The healers are never just healers, they tend to have the strongest CC and great "GET OFF ME!" tools, and their ultimates tend to me more interesting than just "more heals." Tanks are properly understood as initiators rather than damage mitigation -- everything they do is designed to force people out of position or force them to pay attention to them. DPS tends to have the best mobility and mechanically interesting weapons -- there's a chick who dual-wields boomerangs that travel in a variety of different arcs depending on which ability you're using, for instance.

It basically perfected arena game mechanics -- no randomness, everything aimed, smarter role division between classes, the works.

Then they went with Funcom as their publisher, immediately added a rune system in the spirit of League of Legends so you had to grind or idle for weeks before you were on even footing with established players, and got zero advertising because Funcom are a blister on the rear end of gaming. On top of that they divided the game into literally 10-12 separate queues -- there was 2v2, 5v5 capture the flag and king of the hill modes that made no sense and worked really poorly with the game's mechanics, 3v3 solo queue, 3v3 teams, tournament mode, on and on and on for no good reason. 3v3 was the main mode but you weren't allowed to just queue with two friends, instead you had to form a fixed team of 3 specific people, which took up a "team slot" and you only had a limited number of team slots unless you bought more, in a doubly idiotic decision half made out of a misguided desire to protect disorganized teams and half out of sheer greed.

The game basically withered away and died a slow death despite being a better game, mechanically, than anything else in the genre. Towards the very end of its lifetime they got the rights back but it was too late to take out the rune bullshit or walk back some of the other bad decisions, and while there is a spiritual sequel (Battlerite) it's slower-paced and the art style isn't nearly as cool.

Mordja posted:

Have you tried Battlerite? It's a sequel/reboot but without that Funcom baggage.

Tuxedo Catfish posted:

I'm aware, I mention it at the end of the post. I didn't like the slower pace, the larger maps, and a lot of the movement abilities feel really weird compared to how they worked in BLC.

That said I played Battlerite in beta and I hear they increased movement speed since then, so I should probably take another look at some point.

In Training posted:

gently caress off you idiotic japanese middle schoolers! you dont know map design for poo poo!

Raxivace posted:

I wouldn't say I necessarily love this aspect but I liked the combat in the original Nier well enough.

an actual dog posted:

I love splatoon

glam rock hamhock posted:

To ask the thread a similar question: are there any pays of a game you love that other people seem to hate?

Like, for example, one of my favorite parts of Gunstar Heroes is the dice maze and I was really surprised to find out years later on the internet that people apparently hate that part and consider it a flaw in an otherwise perfect game.

Radioactive Toy posted:

Due to my apparent game ADD in the last 7 days I ended up finishing Neir: Automata, Breath of the Wild, and Dishonored 2. Probably going to pick up Ruiner to run through before I take on something big again. My current thoughts for next game are:

Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age - I picked up the original release when it came out and never really played much of it. I already own this.
Persona 5 - Never played a Persona game before but I'm really liking the style I've seen from this game. Would have to purchase this one.
Red Dead Redemption - Friend let me borrow it years and years ago and I think I started it 2 or 3 times but never stuck with it. Would be nice to play through this before the sequel next year.

Not sure what to go for.

exquisite tea posted:

To all the haters who think the dialogue in Life is Strange is bad, I'm like holy poo poo are you cereal? It's pure awesomesauce, shaka brah.

exquisite tea posted:

To all the haters who think the dialogue in Life is Strange is bad, I'm like holy poo poo are you cereal? It's pure awesomesauce, shaka brah.

Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:

Life is Strange isn't a perfect game but it's hella up there

Closed-Down Pizza Parlor posted:

Life is Strange isn't a perfect game but it's hella up there

precision posted:

it kinda falls apart in the last episode, the ending itself is good but a whooooooole lot of the stuff in the last 1/2 eps is just... not.

how did i forget Journey tho, that is definitely the definition of a perfect game.

precision posted:

it kinda falls apart in the last episode, the ending itself is good but a whooooooole lot of the stuff in the last 1/2 eps is just... not.

how did i forget Journey tho, that is definitely the definition of a perfect game.

glam rock hamhock posted:

Journey is amazingly great but it loses so so so much if you don't encounter anyone online and for that I can't call it perfect.

precision posted:

it kinda falls apart in the last episode, the ending itself is good but a whooooooole lot of the stuff in the last 1/2 eps is just... not.

how did i forget Journey tho, that is definitely the definition of a perfect game.

The Colonel posted:

Nina posted:

Okay this falls into that parts of games you like that others hate question. I love all of the lead up to the Life is Strange finale and I think it's a really strong part of the game.

lets hang out posted:

I always enjoyed the poison swamps in souls games