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Dodoman: Feb 26, 2009; A moment of laxity
A lifetime of regret; Lipstick Apathy

Stylus didn't pick up any of my old styles (maybe because I installed it after updating to 57) but it uses styles from the stylish website itself, so no rewrites necessary.

# ? Oct 1, 2017 16:38

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# ? May 16, 2024 20:55

LampkinsMateSteve: Jan 1, 2005; I've really fucked it. Have I fucked it?

Boris Galerkin posted:

This popped up on my RSS feed

https://github.com/keraf/NoCoin

Which is an addon that's kinda like Adblock but it specifically blocks buttcoin miners in your browser.

I am speechless because I can't believe that this is actually a thing that is needed but apparently this is the world we live in now. Pirate Bay is an example of a website serving up such mining scripts, and if they are/can do it then I assume that all the shady poo poo tier advertisement networks are doing it too.

Iridium (the replacement for YouTube Centre) just popped up a notice asking if they can use my computer to start mining... well, at least they asked. Let's see how long it takes for them to just start doing it anyway.

EDIT: https://github.com/ParticleCore/Iridium/issues/189

# ? Oct 1, 2017 20:01

fishmech: Jul 16, 2006; by VideoGames; Salad Prong

So I'm looking for Firefox 57-compatible versions of a few non-compatible extensions I have left.

SuperStop: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/superstop/ Which basically just made it so you could hit shift-esc to do the same thing esc would do on a loaded page before they stopped that - stop animated gifs, stop some ajax requests, etc.

Snap Links Plus - since the official version he did for the last update is still defective in the options menu. I really just need the right click-drag motion to open new tabs and the ability to have it not open duplicate links in that.

Rehost Image - https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/rehost-image/ which was simply the easiest quick-rehost on Imgur extension I found a while back. All I need out of a replacement is that it can do that.

Session Manager - http://sessionmanager.mozdev.org/ since the ability to selectively save collections of tabs from time to time is useful, and sometimes it's really helpful for recovering from a crashing situation. I don't really need all the advanced features either.

DownThemAll - http://www.downthemall.net/ The developer refuses to bother upgrading things to Firefox 57 compatibility, I don't need all the capabilities, just the ability to give an extension a page and have it grab+download all the image links or video links etc, and then do it from certain selections on the page. The whole extension can do things like split up files into multiple parts to download over old dialup connections or whatever, but I hardly need that.

# ? Oct 1, 2017 21:31

EoRaptor: Sep 13, 2003; by Fluffdaddy

mike12345 posted:

Why did Tab Center stop working? I thought it's by mozilla smh

Mozilla chose to remove the ability to hide the tab bar and url bar, claiming security reasons. The Tab Center extension got retired instead of being updated. A replacement exists, https://addons.mozilla.org/en-GB/firefox/addon/tab-center-redux/ , but it's waiting on mozilla to finish implementing a safe web extension api for hiding the tab bar. No ETA, but not by FF57 at least. Using it now creates 'duplicate' tabs, but only cosmetically.

fishmech posted:

Session Manager - http://sessionmanager.mozdev.org/ since the ability to selectively save collections of tabs from time to time is useful, and sometimes it's really helpful for recovering from a crashing situation. I don't really need all the advanced features either.

DownThemAll - http://www.downthemall.net/ The developer refuses to bother upgrading things to Firefox 57 compatibility, I don't need all the capabilities, just the ability to give an extension a page and have it grab+download all the image links or video links etc, and then do it from certain selections on the page. The whole extension can do things like split up files into multiple parts to download over old dialup connections or whatever, but I hardly need that.

Not sure about the others, but Session manager is waiting on new webextension API's before it can do anything for firefox 57+. No idea if mozilla will implement these before 57 actually comes out.

The Downthemall dev is actually working on a webextension version. He made a post about it, but has no idea of a delivery timeline.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 03:42

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

I thought the DTA guy wasn't going to bother because Mozilla refuses to implement a filesystem API. Any webextension version of DTA won't let you set a download directory most likely.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 03:58

Desuwa: Jun 2, 2011; I'm telling my mommy. That pubbie doesn't do video games right!

Nalin posted:

I thought the DTA guy wasn't going to bother because Mozilla refuses to implement a filesystem API. Any webextension version of DTA won't let you set a download directory most likely.

He made a post where he said that Mozilla wasn't implementing the APIs, but he thought he could get special treatment from Mozilla like tree style tabs is getting. However he didn't want to get special permission just to be allowed the privilege of doing even more work.

I think the biggest problem going forward is going to be addons that need new APIs, especially large numbers of them. Imagine if TST didn't exist, do you think it would be possible for someone to build it starting with FF 57? I sincerely doubt it, Mozilla's giving them special treatment because TST already has a large, dedicated user base.

Without an existing large user base Mozilla isn't going to give an unproven addon special treatment, especially one that requires as much work on Mozilla's part as TST. No one will be able to make "another" TST, DTA, or CTR; Mozilla will just simply not do the work necessary to make them possible.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 04:16

Bieeanshee: Aug 21, 2000; Not keen on keening.; Grimey Drawer

LampkinsMateSteve posted:

Iridium (the replacement for YouTube Centre) just popped up a notice asking if they can use my computer to start mining... well, at least they asked. Let's see how long it takes for them to just start doing it anyway.

EDIT: https://github.com/ParticleCore/Iridium/issues/189

I think that kind of thing is a terrible idea, but if I'd fielded some of those comments squawking about the 'differences' between a hobby and a business, I'd have closed up shop and hung out old hello.jpg for them.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 05:12

Decius: Oct 14, 2005; Ramrod XTreme

EoRaptor posted:

but it's waiting on mozilla to finish implementing a safe web extension api for hiding the tab bar. No ETA, but not by FF57 at least. Using it now creates 'duplicate' tabs, but only cosmetically.

Meanwhile you can create /<profile>/chrome/userChrome.css
and put

code:

#tabbrowser-tabs {
  visibility: collapse !important;
}


#newtab-label, #newtab  {
  display: none !important;
}

#settings {
  display: none !important;
}

in, which hides the tabbar.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 06:22

wooger: Apr 16, 2005; YOU RESENT?

Here is a google table showing common extensions, their status in Firefox 57+ and some alternatives.

Stolen from Reddit, or possibly earlier in this thread, but worth a repost.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1TFcEXMcKrwoIAECIVyBU0GPoSmRqZ7A0VBvqeKYVSww/edit#gid=0
I assume someone is updating it, but it's not me.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 07:13

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

~Coxy posted:

The options screen was never good before, really. And was super overdue for a redesign.

Not that the new one is necessarily great.

I take it back. Settings are still hidden behind modal dialogs for no reason.

Edit: file upload is still a modal dialog. Thought this was meant to be a nice UI redesign?

~Coxy fucked around with this message at 09:24 on Oct 2, 2017

# ? Oct 2, 2017 07:48

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

I'm a huge CTR guy, but after trying out 57b I have to say it's not too bad.

I'm baffled by a number of decisions though that seem punitive.

Hamburger menu button is a mandatory button that cannot be moved or hidden. Why isn't it the same as any other button?
Where's my dedicated Reload and Stop buttons?
Why does the urlbar need a ... button (of which the first option is to favorite the page) and a favorite button, neither of which can be removed?

The App Tab highlight is far too hard to see now, but at least my most important App Tabs change their favico anyway.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 08:10

Decius: Oct 14, 2005; Ramrod XTreme

Using the new pruned Add-On regime for a week now and the added speed makes up for losing a lot of functionality and comfort.
But I'm missing a few things: Especially SALR of course (I rely a lot on jumping to the last unread post with the jump button and typing in &goto=newpost every time for tabs I keep open all week gets old really fast) and Enpass. Some minor things from Tab Mix and CTR, but that's mostly creature comforts and can often be done with other add-ons in a lesser way. Session Save I could replicate in a bare-bones form with Tab Saver for example. Others like BBCode/HTML/Markup tagging via context Menu I'm still searching for a replacement.

The speed and memory improvments are really tremendous. On my passively cooled Surface Pro 4 with 4 GB RAM I always used Opera, because Firefox was too choppy, especially with Youtube and HTML5 videos. Now, with Developer Edition it runs fast and great (most annoying thing is that using touch puts a blinking text cursor onto the web page and even fullscreen video for some reason):

# ? Oct 2, 2017 09:03

Generic Monk: Oct 31, 2011

Decius posted:

Using the new pruned Add-On regime for a week now and the added speed makes up for losing a lot of functionality and comfort.
But I'm missing a few things: Especially SALR of course (I rely a lot on jumping to the last unread post with the jump button and typing in &goto=newpost every time for tabs I keep open all week gets old really fast) and Enpass. Some minor things from Tab Mix and CTR, but that's mostly creature comforts and can often be done with other add-ons in a lesser way. Session Save I could replicate in a bare-bones form with Tab Saver for example. Others like BBCode/HTML/Markup tagging via context Menu I'm still searching for a replacement.

The speed and memory improvments are really tremendous. On my passively cooled Surface Pro 4 with 4 GB RAM I always used Opera, because Firefox was too choppy, especially with Youtube and HTML5 videos. Now, with Developer Edition it runs fast and great (most annoying thing is that using touch puts a blinking text cursor onto the web page and even fullscreen video for some reason):

you are using h264ify right? might help stop youtube monopolising your system resources

# ? Oct 2, 2017 09:34

Spyde: Mar 3, 2004; It's not personal, it's strictly business.

~Coxy posted:

I'm baffled by a number of decisions though that seem punitive.

Hamburger menu button is a mandatory button that cannot be moved or hidden. Why isn't it the same as any other button?
Where's my dedicated Reload and Stop buttons?
Why does the urlbar need a ... button (of which the first option is to favorite the page) and a favorite button, neither of which can be removed?

My current userchrome.css tweaks (on Nightly):

code:

/* Remove identity box in the address bar */
#identity-box { display: none !important; }

/* Remove Star bookmark icon */
#star-button { display: none !important; }

/* Remove forward and back buttons */
#forward-button{ display: none !important; }
#back-button{ display: none !important;}

/* Remove Menu button */
#PanelUI-menu-button {display: none;}
#PanelUI-button { -moz-border-start: 0px !important;  border-image: none !important; }

/* Remove Close Tab button */
.tab-close-button {
    display: none !important;
}

/* Center address bar text when not focused */
#urlbar:not([focused]) .urlbar-input-box {
	text-align: center;
}

Takes care of the most annoying things that I miss CTR for. Plus Firefox actually uses Windows theme elements now which was my other major complaint.

# ? Oct 2, 2017 19:59

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Thanks for that!

# ? Oct 3, 2017 03:04

Avenging Dentist: Oct 1, 2005; oh my god is that a circular saw that does not go in my mouth aaaaagh

You know you can just right-click the bookmark star and remove it right? (At least on Nightly.) You don't need to add userChrome for it.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 04:46

Nalin: Sep 29, 2007; Hair Elf

Avenging Dentist posted:

You know you can just right-click the bookmark star and remove it right? (At least on Nightly.) You don't need to add userChrome for it.

You can do that with all the buttons inside the address bar. Click the three dots and right click any of the functions there to add that button to the address bar. I removed the pocket button and added the "send tab to device" button.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 04:54

Spyde: Mar 3, 2004; It's not personal, it's strictly business.

Avenging Dentist posted:

You know you can just right-click the bookmark star and remove it right? (At least on Nightly.) You don't need to add userChrome for it.

That option was bugged for me not long ago, and star just kept coming back after restart, that's why it was in there.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 04:57

~Coxy: Dec 9, 2003; R.I.P. Inter-OS Sass - b.2000AD d.2003AD

Nalin posted:

You can do that with all the buttons inside the address bar. Click the three dots and right click any of the functions there to add that button to the address bar. I removed the pocket button and added the "send tab to device" button.

Not "reader view" AFAICT.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 05:00

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Is Tampermonkey export broken for anyone else? I've tried making a File, Zip and Cloud export, both to Dropbox or Google Drive. All of them fail silently.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 05:16

NVB: Jan 23, 2010; Grimey Drawer

Wheany posted:

Is Tampermonkey export broken for anyone else? I've tried making a File, Zip and Cloud export, both to Dropbox or Google Drive. All of them fail silently.

Working for me, only have adblock plus tampermonkey and stylus installed. Only tried the export to my hdd option not the others as i don't store stuff in cloud or dropbox.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 09:32

Geemer: Nov 4, 2010

My Firefox for android just updated to 56 and now they've finally added enough webextensions support for me to use the latest version of uBO. Why the gently caress did they push that poo poo out before adding support to all their platforms?

Oh well, let's see in how many new and exciting ways things are broken now.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 11:13

Flipperwaldt: Nov 11, 2011; Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?

Geemer posted:

My Firefox for android just updated to 56 and now they've finally added enough webextensions support for me to use the latest version of uBO. Why the gently caress did they push that poo poo out before adding support to all their platforms?

Oh well, let's see in how many new and exciting ways things are broken now.

If you find out if uBO's cosmetic filtering now consistently works on the newest versions for both, I'd be very interested to hear about it.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 11:32

Hypnolobster: Apr 12, 2007; What this sausage party needs is a big dollop of ketchup! Too bad I didn't make any.

Is my PC exploding, or is 56.0 a giant pile of garbage? Youtube tabs are slow, text is sort of slow to appear and I'm getting this insane problem where going to a page from the address bar sometimes doesn't load, but a link/bookmark to the same URL works fine.

# ? Oct 3, 2017 22:32

Mr.Radar: Nov 5, 2005; You guys aren't going to believe this, but that guy is our games teacher.

Hypnolobster posted:

Is my PC exploding, or is 56.0 a giant pile of garbage? Youtube tabs are slow, text is sort of slow to appear and I'm getting this insane problem where going to a page from the address bar sometimes doesn't load, but a link/bookmark to the same URL works fine.

I haven't had any of those issues. Have to tried a fresh profile? Or upgrading your graphics drivers?

# ? Oct 3, 2017 22:46

Owers: Nov 13, 2004; I want to be lean and mean.

Hypnolobster posted:

Is my PC exploding, or is 56.0 a giant pile of garbage? Youtube tabs are slow, text is sort of slow to appear and I'm getting this insane problem where going to a page from the address bar sometimes doesn't load, but a link/bookmark to the same URL works fine.

Are you using Greasemonkey? I've had very similar issues, and it turns out it was Greasemonkey 3.16 causing scripts to run slowly and creating an overall lovely browsing experience. Try installing the 3.17 beta here, it fixed everything for me: https://github.com/greasemonkey/greasemonkey/issues/2602#issuecomment-333593758

# ? Oct 4, 2017 12:45

WattsvilleBlues: Jan 25, 2005; Every demon wants his pound of flesh

BitWarden isn't working very well as a replacement for LastPass on Firefox 58 Nightly. Is it working in the 57 beta? It only offers to save the password for some sites. Outlook.com and Gmail pass by it unnoticed when I log in.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 12:57

Geemer: Nov 4, 2010

Flipperwaldt posted:

If you find out if uBO's cosmetic filtering now consistently works on the newest versions for both, I'd be very interested to hear about it.

Aside from having to import my settings from file, I've not had any issues.
Just make sure to save your settings to a file. And when you've installed the latest version, to import them and also clear filter caches and update filters.

I had some weirdness from cached pages from before importing my settings, but those issues resolved themselves by now.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 13:01

nexus6: Sep 2, 2011; If only you could see what I've seen with your eyes

I'm sure this has been answered before but does Firefox have support for multiple profiles like Chrome does? I really like that you can just click a button in Chrome, select a different profile and get a brand new window.

I've installed the Multi-Account Containers extension but it's not quite what I'm looking for - it's more like having multiple private windows open, not really separate profiles with their own extensions, bookmarks and history.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 16:24

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Yes: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Security/Contextual_Identity_Project/Containers#How_to_Use_Containers

You have to set something in about :config, then it works. I think it's gonna be default in 57+?

e: wait poo poo, you also want separate bookmarks/history, that doesn't happen... yet:

quote:

Not separated by Containers (Yet):

History - Bug 1283320
Bookmarks - Bug 1213290
Security Exceptions for Invalid TLS Certificates Bug 1249348

Truga fucked around with this message at 17:31 on Oct 4, 2017

# ? Oct 4, 2017 16:27

Flipperwaldt: Nov 11, 2011; Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?

Geemer posted:

Aside from having to import my settings from file, I've not had any issues.
Just make sure to save your settings to a file. And when you've installed the latest version, to import them and also clear filter caches and update filters.

I had some weirdness from cached pages from before importing my settings, but those issues resolved themselves by now.

Thanks, I'll give it a shot then.

nexus6 posted:

I'm sure this has been answered before but does Firefox have support for multiple profiles like Chrome does? I really like that you can just click a button in Chrome, select a different profile and get a brand new window.

I've installed the Multi-Account Containers extension but it's not quite what I'm looking for - it's more like having multiple private windows open, not really separate profiles with their own extensions, bookmarks and history.

Used to be you could make your shortcut refer to firefox.exe -p and it would start up with the profile manager. No switching from inside an instance as far as I know though.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 17:22

Saukkis: May 16, 2003; Unless I'm on the inside curve pointing straight at oncoming traffic the high beams stay on and I laugh at your puny protest flashes.
I am Most Important Man. Most Important Man in the World.

Flipperwaldt posted:

Thanks, I'll give it a shot then.
Used to be you could make your shortcut refer to firefox.exe -p and it would start up with the profile manager. No switching from inside an instance as far as I know though.

Start with the command firefox.exe -p -no-remote and you can have several different profiles running at the same time. I currently have Firefox running with a profile dedicated for Something Awful, another for YouTube and few other profiles for other purposes.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 19:20

Toast Museum: Dec 3, 2005; 30% Iron Chef

Saukkis posted:

I currently have Firefox running with a profile dedicated for Something Awful, another for YouTube and few other profiles for other purposes.

To what end?

# ? Oct 4, 2017 20:59

Flipperwaldt: Nov 11, 2011; Won't somebody think of the starving hamsters in China?

Geemer posted:

Aside from having to import my settings from file, I've not had any issues.
Just make sure to save your settings to a file. And when you've installed the latest version, to import them and also clear filter caches and update filters.

I had some weirdness from cached pages from before importing my settings, but those issues resolved themselves by now.

Followup is that I didn't lose my settings like everyone else seems to have done, but on the other hand the import filter settings button doesn't work for me, as well as a complete refusal of the element picker to work at all (ie it won't jump to the page I'm invoking it for, doesn't show the grey overlay when I go to that tab manually). The latter being a problem I have had with all 1.14 builds on FF for Android so far.

So I'm back at 1.13.8, which works great. I'll wait some more, I guess.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 21:17

Truga: May 4, 2014; Lipstick Apathy

Toast Museum posted:

To what end?

I imagine clicking/watching youtube links on SA and having your actual youtube history separate is a good move for most, my "recommended" videos are pages of dumbshit star citizen and trump crap that gets linked in the funny threads

# ? Oct 4, 2017 22:54

dont be mean to me: May 2, 2007; I'm interplanetary, bitch
Let's go to Mars

That's exactly why I got Argh Magazine about Mozilla trying to shove containers back into the add-on closet.

# ? Oct 4, 2017 23:00

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Seems like the "Open with <other browser>" extensions now require some kind of a "native client" to work. gently caress that poo poo.

# ? Oct 5, 2017 05:27

Wheany: Mar 17, 2006; Spinya^{ha^{ha^haha}ha}ha_{ha_{ha_haha}ha}ha!; Doctor Rope

Also holy gently caress is it annoying that mouse gestures just wont work on some tabs due to security

# ? Oct 5, 2017 05:29

Scalding Coffee: Jun 26, 2006; You're already dead

Hypnolobster posted:

Is my PC exploding, or is 56.0 a giant pile of garbage? Youtube tabs are slow, text is sort of slow to appear and I'm getting this insane problem where going to a page from the address bar sometimes doesn't load, but a link/bookmark to the same URL works fine.

This site is loading terribly so, but if I keep clicking the same link, the pages sometimes load faster. Must be some add-on.

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# ? May 16, 2024 20:55

ladron: Sep 15, 2007; eso es lo que es

does anyone know if there is a greasemonkey script or other add-on that will let me hover over for twitter links the way I can with youtube links using greasemonkey? O another ways around it so I don't have to click the link like an animal to see the funny picture ?

# ? Oct 5, 2017 12:54

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