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Decus posted:Haven't messed with shades at all yet, but what brings their range to 221? Does it actually increase with chevrons for some reason? The Shadowdart name of power gives them +35% range and makes them cause fear. So that's 35% on top of the technology boosts.
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Mr Luxury Yacht posted:So when they release the mega combined campaign, are they also going to patch in the TW1 races to skirmish and multiplayer? I'd guess so. I'm interested in how they'll manage to balance the old races since everything seems supercharged now.
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Oct 4, 2017 00:50
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The early game in this is such a drag. Maybe the Ror, added later units mitigated this in 1.
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Oct 4, 2017 00:53
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Ammanas posted:The early game in this is such a drag. Maybe the Ror, added later units mitigated this in 1. I kind of like that you really need to be hustling with skaven to get going early. I couldn't wrap my head around what I was meant to be doing with dark elves because their economy is kind of confusing (slaves vs happiness and how that actually calculates when it comes to income).
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Oct 4, 2017 00:59
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JBP posted:I kind of like that you really need to be hustling with skaven to get going early. I couldn't wrap my head around what I was meant to be doing with dark elves because their economy is kind of confusing (slaves vs happiness and how that actually calculates when it comes to income). idk dark elves are pretty easy: be a colossal oval office at all possible times and enslave everything that moves, if people get annoyed at you for it, kill them and enslave them again
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Whorelord posted:idk dark elves are pretty easy: be a colossal oval office at all possible times and enslave everything that moves, if people get annoyed at you for it, kill them and enslave them again I hosed up and occupied more territory. I was on turn 40 or so and realised I probably shouldn't have been doing that and building tall while capturing slaves. Then I started Skaven and I'm having a good time. VVVV I took it on my secondary lord and he never fails to ambush. It's gold. JBP fucked around with this message at 01:13 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Oct 4, 2017 01:08
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StashAugustine posted:I know people talk up the blue line but I'm just addicted to maxing out yellow line on all my generals at this point The goon who suggested getting blue line ambush on Queek changed my life.
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PlushCow posted:The goon who suggested getting blue line ambush on Queek changed my life. Does that affect their default stance that gets them ambushes on attacks as well as the actual ambush stance?
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Oct 4, 2017 01:24
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uh always get blue line no matter what team you play ambush bonus / defense? Yah that owns Lightning strike? Lol if multi armies siege you The rest is stupid, but those two things own
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Oct 4, 2017 01:27
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thebardyspoon posted:Does that affect their default stance that gets them ambushes on attacks as well as the actual ambush stance? As far as I can tell it affects ambush chance in general, both ambush stance and when attacking with stalk.
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Oct 4, 2017 01:27
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Don't forget you can also ambush with your garrison when sallying out while under siege. There's also a research to give you +5% ambush chance and I would be extremely happy to hear if this affects garrisons.
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things I go for in generals basic fodder improvements 4-7 points, normally makes fodder equivalent to your second tier troops lightning strike, ambush, replenishment bonuses 7 ish points remainder yellow, maybe mounts mounts are generally good, but some times cost more and turn a good melee unit into a large easy to hit unit and I don't always like that EDIT: forgot for dark elves it gets weird since infamous raider gets you more money and slaves from raiding but dreaded slaver gets you more slaves from battle Third World Reagan fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Oct 4, 2017 01:31
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I loving love dark elf last names My lords now start at level 11 so I get one as soon as I pick it.
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Man, I didn't think anything could beat Skaven in terms of cool new mechanics Dark Elves though, holy poo poo. A hero character that seems to be one of the best tanky/melee guys in the game, that can match Teclis/Mazdamundi in spellcasting fun. 3 FREE NET OF AMYHOK EVERY BATTLE. CASTABLE ANYWHERE ON THE FIELD. YEAH SURE WHY NOT. gently caress 'EM UP FAM. Names of Power for my Dark Elf buddies, that Malekith helps level up with his exp share skill. Slavery actually feels decently complex without being overbearing. More importantly it's really nice to have actual Public Order options on everything again. Black Arks are hilariously fun. All my units hustle High Elf level stats, yet unlike Tyrion and Teclis my boy Malekith has severe upkeep reducers. It ain't anything keeping together a massive army for him. I've got three armies at turn 24 on VH and am still expanding fine. Tons of early fights against Skaven. Yes please I'd like my initial early game to be my crazy powerful elves vs the chaffest units ever. 600 vs 2k? Bring it, let's feel good about ourselves.
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Oct 4, 2017 01:57
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I can't tell if the new factions are overpowered or not. They all seem OP, but I'm also mostly fighting new factions so that should balance out. It would be easier to tell if the AI didn't blob their army and practically attack move my line. I don't remember it being this bad in the first game.
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Tenzarin posted:Kroxigors buffed by a priest are disgusting. Yeah harmonic convergence on any of the lizardmen monsters turns them into death machines
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Things I would do to make the Ritual stuff better. (In my opinion) Make the final battles much harder. Let AI retry even if they lose. Make it so that chaos stacks focus your ritual preforming settlements in greater number. Make the AI more interested in stopping other rituals.
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MonsterEnvy posted:Things I would do to make the Ritual stuff better. (In my opinion) But that wouldn't autopilot the player towards victory.
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Panfilo posted:WH3 could have Ikrit Claw/Deathmaster Sknitch since Eshin has a presence around where the Ogres used to be from. i see deathmaster snikch being a special regiments of renown turbo-assassin instead of a lord eshin... really isn't big on the whole "lord-led armies" thing, they're more about small hitsquads of ninjarats murdering people in the middle of the night e: fun fact, deathmaster snikch is one of the few skaven who has mastered the art of tri-wielding - carrying a weapon in each hand plus one in his tail (the 'tail-blade' mentioned in lord talents is usually strapped to the tail and most skaven aren't very coordinated with it) and also killed the reincarnation of sigmar before GW decided they wanted the ruler of the empire to be sigmar instead so the game would be more like 40k President Ark fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Yeah I see Snikch as a special hero. Maybe he is only single use like that Engineer from the rites, but if you do get him he has like a 90% chance of assassinating his target.President Ark posted:e: fun fact, deathmaster snikch is one of the few skaven who has mastered the art of tri-wielding - carrying a weapon in each hand plus one in his tail (the 'tail-blade' mentioned in lord talents is usually strapped to the tail and most skaven aren't very coordinated with it) and also killed the reincarnation of sigmar before GW decided they wanted the ruler of the empire to be sigmar instead so the game would be more like 40k As well in the Final Battle for Eight Peaks in the End Times. The Deathmaster killed Thorgrim (Who had killed Queek, who had killed Belgar. And a Rat under Queek had killed Gobbla causing Skarsnik to lose spirit and leave.) MonsterEnvy fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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MonsterEnvy posted:Yeah I see Snikch as a special hero. Maybe he is only single use like that Engineer from the rites, but if you do get him he has like a 90% chance of assassinating his target. I'm pretty sure you can't even assassinate lords in this game, only heroes, that would be pretty useless imo
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CA has shown absolutely no regard for any "this character will be a hero" theories so far, so I'll believe they're interested in creating legendary heroes when I see it.
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madmac posted:CA has shown absolutely no regard for any "this character will be a hero" theories so far, so I'll believe they're interested in creating legendary heroes when I see it. They made the Green Knight a hero.
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MonsterEnvy posted:They made the Green Knight a hero. Yep. And they also made Isabella, Ghorst, and Grombrindal Legendary lords, and Krell is a summon. The half of the FLC chart we can see so far is also 80% new Legendary Lords. The odds of any given character being implemented as a hero is still really, really low.
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Ravenfood posted:Since each new race pack is supposed to come with 4 LLs (instead of the mini-campaigns) I think that they might be increasing the number of LLs in the race addon packs or making them race specific instead of paired off against each other. So instead of Grim and the Grave giving you a few extra units and lords to both VC and Empire, you might have a Skaven pack that adds two LLs and more units to Skaven instead. I can't decide whether they'll go that route because then they can easily be accused of shorting the release rosters deliberately, but if they don't do that, the extra races will have more LLs than the release races which seems a little strange too. I think they said 4 LLs total, so we'll end up with 2 per side per DLC. Only welfs only have 2 LLs in 1, with Bret/Emp/Beastmen having 2 and everyone else having 4 or more (including different factions with the same roster)
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Funky See Funky Do posted:The Shadowdart name of power gives them +35% range and makes them cause fear. So that's 35% on top of the technology boosts. Tardcore posted:I'm pretty sure you can't even assassinate lords in this game, only heroes, that would be pretty useless imo
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StashAugustine posted:I think they said 4 LLs total, so we'll end up with 2 per side per DLC. Only welfs only have 2 LLs in 1, with Bret/Emp/Beastmen having 2 and everyone else having 4 or more (including different factions with the same roster) What they said was specifically that campaign packs (eg like Beastmen or Wood Elves, not Chaos, Brettonia, or Norsca) would now have 2 extra LLs instead of the bundled mini-campaigns. They've specifically said this doesn't apply to regular Race Packs and they haven't said anything indicating Lord Packs are being done differently. Even if 4 is the new magic number, they'll hit that easily for the new world races by doing two Lord Packs and 4 free Legendary Lords. Hell, the FLC array they already put out shows one free Legendary Lord for each race (dark elves are half obscured) The main drivers for LL inequality in the first game was a combination of Empire getting boned with no free LL and Vampires getting an excessive amount of love. Otherwise Wood Elves got hosed somewhat by being the last DLC race and no FLC. Norsca also, though they only came out 6 weeks ago.
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I wisht this game had shipped with a full gore option. It sucks to see enemies with 1 million arrows sticking out of them and then just falling down. I'm excited for mortal empires because I'm going to kill every non human and karl franz will reign supreme.
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Goddamn, I've been playing Skaven and having a blast and finally beat a campaign. Booted up Krox'gar's and holy poo poo his Feral Stegodon is invincible and just racks up hundreds of kills while the Sauruses awkwardly waddle in to get a sword in edgewise. I love big dinosaurs stomping on everything. 
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Everyone in this game is good and I have no idea how they made the Ponce Elves fun to play, too.
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Just had Teclis rack up 1600 kills in one loving battle because the AI decided to blob all its guys in one spot in a forest and never attack despite instigating an ambush. I like the game but the AI is loving broken sometimes
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Did they ever come out with regiments of renown for the beastmen? Yeah, they're pretty good.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Did they ever come out with regiments of renown for the beastmen? Yeah, they're pretty cool, the RoR cygor has a bound net spell
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I do wonder how the old world races as-is would stack up against the 4 new races, absurd campaign bonuses aside, what would dwarves begin to do against a skaven army that out-sieges them and drowns them in rats? How is greenskin morale gonna handle fighting from every direction?
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Ra Ra Rasputin posted:I do wonder how the old world races as-is would stack up against the 4 new races, absurd campaign bonuses aside, what would dwarves begin to do against a skaven army that out-sieges them and drowns them in rats? Die. Dwarves die when they are outgunned, and the skaven will be good at doing just that.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Did they ever come out with regiments of renown for the beastmen?
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Ravenfood posted:All the factions still lacking them got RoRs in the Norsca update, so Chaos, Brettonia, and Welves all did too. The Minotaurs RoR causes Terror and gets regen, while the Bestigors get halberds which I think puts that as one of the more unique RoRs in terms of deviation from the base unit. The Welf Treekin get fire resistance and a fire resist aura which I think is hilarious. Brets also get a foot squires with halberds
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