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zoux posted:IMO the internet discourse about Whedon is 100x worse than anything Whedon has ever done on the screen. I mean, I was kind of trying to joke about that but I clearly miss fired terribly and pissed people off. So my bad.
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zoux posted:IMO the internet discourse about Whedon is 100x worse than anything Whedon has ever done on the screen. In other news, I'm still salty about Bates Motel and happy to continue blaming Rihanna.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:51
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Was she bad at acting.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:55
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She was passable, which when acting across Highmore as Norman translates to poo poo.
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Oct 3, 2017 19:59
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SO, how about that Ghosted?
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Oct 3, 2017 19:59
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Too many new shows, too little time ... Life is hard!!!
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Oct 3, 2017 20:01
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I always enjoy this part of the early season where I'm DVRing dozens of shows and then just wittle it down as I realize I don't actually care enough about most of them and I'll just catch up on them when I can binge them on Netflix or Hulu if I still care then. Ghosted fell into that hole.
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Speaking of I finished Exorcist season 1 last night (my dad suffered a brain injury last year and I couldn't handle watching Cameron from Ferris Bueller as a sad shadow of his former self, but my dad ended up relatively ok so I could go back) and it's a fully decent show.
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Exorcist as a plot and narrative was a solidly above average show, but the actual exorcism episodes in the middle of the season were really standout horror.
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I'm a sucker for stuff involving classic Catholic occultism and demonology.
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Yeah, me too. I get a kick out of anything that plays competently with the idea of the Catholic Church knowing about the monsters/evil/demons and having a conspiracy to manage it and system in place. Exorcist S1 does a solid job with it and avoids getting too in the weeds or anything. Has anyone seen Outcast? I was thinking of giving that a look this month and it seems similar.
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STAC Goat posted:Exorcist as a plot and narrative was a solidly above average show, but the actual exorcism episodes in the middle of the season were really standout horror. The first two episodes are grody as gently caress too. In fact (having binged it over the past 36 hours) the only part I thought didn't work very well was the stretch around episodes 6-8 where the family melodrama is both too focused on and not as well written as it had been. Alan Ruck is phenomenal, as are the two leads and the two girls. I could have done without so many Jessica parts, I get that Tomas' temptation was necessary to the plot but there could have been more brevity to it The only other problem I really have is that it's telegraphed way too hard that the rich people are Satanists. In contrast, going into it I didn't know the show was a legit sequel and did not see the bombshell that the mom was the girl in the original movie at all
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Yeah, there were some pacing issues with Tomas' stuff and the grander conspiracy and the whole final act of the demon being exorcised from the daughter and instead going into the mom and revealing she's Regan and drawing in all that movie backstory and family drama was really interesting and fun but had an odd pace to it. But even in that stuff I really like the ideas behind it and what they tried to do so it helps pull the whole thing together. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Oct 3, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 20:36
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I just checked out the very beginning of the season premiere did they drop the whole Maria/evil Chicago officials stuff? Also I only saw one season of Outcast but I liked it quite a bit. The comic is outstanding as well
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Outcast season 2 is good but then it ends on a cliffhanger then it gets canceled
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Oct 3, 2017 21:17
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The Gifted might be alright if they kill off the main four members of the family the show is about pretty quickly. Otherwise it's going to be a tough watch because they all suck.
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zoux posted:So how was Gifted Gifted was pretty awesome. Took a Dump on Inhumans
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X-O posted:The Gifted might be alright if they kill off the main four members of the family the show is about pretty quickly. Otherwise it's going to be a tough watch because they all suck. Is Amy Acker one of those four?
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X-O posted:The Gifted might be alright if they kill off the main four members of the family the show is about pretty quickly. Otherwise it's going to be a tough watch because they all suck. It took me a minute to realize the daughter was Adam's first girlfriend on the Goldbergs. I agree, it's like they came up with a decent alternate Earth X-Men story and also had a show about family drama and said hey let's put these two together! Also let's put battle Droids from Star Wars in it.
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GreenNight posted:Outcast season 2 is good but then it ends on a cliffhanger then it gets canceled Is this ever going to air on Cinemax? Between how bad they done this show and stupidly canceling Quarry wtf are hey thinking over there. At least they got Banshee right.
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nate fisher posted:At least they got Banshee right. Counterpoint: season 4 was loving terrible and made me actively angry.
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I have no idea man, I watched it....elsewhere.
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I'm sad that Outcast got canceled so unceremoniously, but considering Robert Kirkman is total poo poo when it comes to writing endings for his stories it's probably for the best that the show ended early.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Counterpoint: season 4 was loving terrible and made me actively angry. That's weird. It wasn't as good as the others but it worked as a kind of epilogue to the show and as someone who loved the first 3 I can't imagine being so offended by it. Disappointed maybe, but I guess I don't get mad at tv shows Anyway Discovery is really good but can anyone tell me if there's a good reason why it's a prequel? Either in universe or why they chose to do it that way? just seems mildly amusing that in 10 years they'll go from this super high tech futuristic type space ship to 1960s low budget tv style technology and sets. I mean the show could be the exact same production design etc and if they said its further in the future than any other show i'd buy it.
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Wandle Cax posted:That's weird. It wasn't as good as the others but it worked as a kind of epilogue to the show and as someone who loved the first 3 I can't imagine being so offended by it. Disappointed maybe, but I guess I don't get mad at tv shows Probably because they don't want to be beholden to any continuity whatsoever.
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Prequel is the worst choice if you want to avoid continuity issues.
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Black-ish season premiere is pretty good. it's a musical episode but not a typical one, it has children rapping about how Columbus was an evil man and a Schoolhouse Rock take-off of the origin of Juneteenth starring the Roots.
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Lurdiak posted:Probably because they don't want to be beholden to any continuity whatsoever. Well if they set it after every other show they could do whatever they want but putting it between 2 existing shows is the opposite of that in terms of being beholden to continuity
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Eh. If you're doing a sequel for something like Trek you have a ton of baggage and a fanbase obsessed with analysing if you hold to it. If you do a prequel and set yourself far enough back all you really need to do is establish some guidelines and a finish point. And if you set yourself far enough back you don't even really need the finish point. You can theoretically have more creative freedom with a prequel if you just stay self contained and clean up after yourself.
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People are more obsessed with figuring out how a prequel fits into and leads to the established canon where it would be really easy to distance yourself from most things if you plop it another 100 years in the future. Enterprise got poo poo on a LOT more for continuity issues than TNG, DS9, and VOY combined.
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If you make something take place in the future you can easily just reference the past as little as possible if you want a clean break. If you do a prequel though, no matter what you're gonna have people being eagle eyed for contradictions to what happens later. So yeah that's pretty much the complete opposite of avoiding continuity issues.
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I don't know. I don't know much about Trek, Enterprise, Discovery, or whatever but it seems to me like you can say "The Federation has to end here and the Klingons have to end here" and everything else is yours as long as you use 100% original characters. Just tell yourself no Kirk, no Picard, no Borg, no whatever. If you don't get into the "foreshadowing" and connections then you don't contradict anything. It means preparing yourself and finding the boundaries and sticking to them. But it seems doable. Like I said I know nothing about Discovery, Enterprise, or if either tried to distance themselves like that. You can do the same if you jump way into the future but then you're still locked into the history. So it just feels like a 50/50 split. Either way you're dealing with baggage and "fans" who are going to be dicks about it.
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STAC Goat posted:I don't know. I don't know much about Trek, Enterprise, Discovery, or whatever but it seems to me like you can say "The Federation has to end here and the Klingons have to end here" and everything else is yours as long as you use 100% original characters. Just tell yourself no Kirk, no Picard, no Borg, no whatever. If you don't get into the "foreshadowing" and connections then you don't contradict anything. Well, to give an example. The Enterprise in Enterprise looked like background ship in battle scenes for DS9. No one shut up about it for 5 years. They essentially blew up the Klingon homeworld in STVI, which was released during TNG but takes place 80 years before it, and it was never referenced in the show (outside of a treaty name) and no one gave a poo poo that the Klingon homeworld was devastated.
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The second example seems like a case of not following your present boundaries. Like, "don't genocide the homeworld of a primary species that totally retcons the history of the world" is just a boundary you have to accept with a prequel. If you want to do something like that you have to create a species or use some one without much history. It's not as freeing as just doing something original but I don't think it's any more restrictive than having to say "ok, we have to remember the Klingon homeworld got blown up and also they have all this other establish history and rules". Like I said, baggage on either side. Either way jumping into a franchise like Trek seems like a massive pain in the rear end you better really want to do. I have no idea. Are the recent movies prequels or reboots? I gather this show is in continuity with all the previous shows and their movies? STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 04:31 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Uh, wasn't it just a moon that blew up? Praxis?
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Rhyno posted:Uh, wasn't it just a moon that blew up? Praxis? Yes, but it was stated the world would be rendered uninhabitable within 100 years. That was the main plot for the movie, seizing on an opportunity for peace so that the federation could help with the refugee crisis that would result. You can say they magicked a way to preserve the planet so they didn't have to do an evacuation, they could have done an evacuation and just named the new homeworld the same as the old. It really doesn't matter. It didn't need to be addressed in later installments so it wasn't. It was easy to ignore and no one was really calling for strict continuity to it. But you mention Romulans in Enterprise and people immediately launch into a 20 page thesis on the events in "The Balance of Terror." STAC Goat posted:
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lmaoooo Fresh Off The Boat kid growing up quiiiick
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bring back old gbs posted:lmaoooo Fresh Off The Boat kid growing up quiiiick Is it like on Gotham where the kid grew two feet between seasons 2 and 3?
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Counterpoint: season 4 was loving terrible and made me actively angry. While I agree season 4 was a letdown, it never made me angry. I think the only show to make me angry was Six Feet Under. Now this is one of my favorite shows of all-time, but around season 4 I became really angry with the show. This angry really peaked after episode 3 of that season when they tricked me into thinking that what I called the 'Lisa Problem' was over. This was due to Nate burning his bedding (during what is one of the best scenes of the show and bonus points for the use Radiohead's Lucky) and moving back into the house. But what happen the next episode? A psychic tells Nate Lisa is still alive. Shoot me now!. It goes downhill from there. This is a shame, because I love the first 3 seasons (also the season 3 finale was amazing). Season 5 wasn't bad (it really returned to form in the second half of the season and I changed my username on here right after Nate died that season), but season 4 is such a ugly season for a really good show. Sorry for SFU rant. I haven't watched it since it originally aired on HBO. Maybe on a rewatch my mind will change.
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EL BROMANCE posted:If there was one I'd probably say that while I thought some of the fan art styles were cool and interesting, ultimately it was a distraction and didn't suit the episode. I actually 100% on the distracting front. However, it was a very well written episode either way.
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