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CLAM DOWN posted:He/she didn't post what province they were talking about, and I have never heard a first nations person call themselves "indian" and know several. Using appropriate respectful terms for a group of people isn't white knighting, go gently caress yourself James Baud. You know several? Well, clearly your several first nations friends encompass all the possible attitudes and viewpoints of first nations people across the country. Some people don't like the term "Indian," others don't like the term "Native," it's really something that individuals need to figure out for themselves, and just lol at trying to tell someone what they aren't allowed to refer to themselves as.
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CLAM DOWN posted:He/she didn't post what province they were talking about, and I have never heard a first nations person call themselves "indian" and know several. Using appropriate respectful terms for a group of people isn't white knighting, go gently caress yourself James Baud. Your histrionics are better suited for the feminism thread. Seriously, check it out. I bet it's your jam.
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Tsyni posted:Your histrionics are better suited for the feminism thread. Seriously, check it out. I bet it's your jam. Will do, thanks!
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durp fiscal responsibility is paramount when it comes to other people getting things, but when it's something I want then build baby build.
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littleorv posted:I use Indian, Aboriginal, and Indigenous depending on how I'm feeling. Wait why Indian but not native?
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Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations A white person calling an aboriginal an 'Indian' is like a white person calling a black person a 'nigga'. Don't loving do it Source: I'm a social worker that works with aboriginal youth offenders, I've talked to dozens of elders and I've routinely visited northern reserves and regularly attended pow wows/feasts/sweats and other things of that nature A Typical Goon fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Dreylad posted:I remember the CBC did a TV show or series about a kid who got sent to a residential school in the 30s or 40s that we watched in Grade 8. It's probably outdated now because kids were treated a lot worse than it portrayed. Probably thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Os5KqErc7XY Also "Canada's Indigenous People" is a great way to start a discussion about exactly who is not whose property.
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations I didn't know that poster was first nations because ??? and I guess I'm sorry for unknowingly telling him/her what to call themselves? but this is exactly what I was getting at. As a white dude, I'm not going to loving go around calling people "indians" the same way I'm not going to use the n-word. Thanks thread for the feedback though, I'll seriously take it to heart!!! 
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Oppression via difficult swipe typing, I love 2017.
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative I'd read that thread.
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CLAM DOWN posted:I didn't know that poster was first nations because ??? and I guess I'm sorry for unknowingly telling him/her what to call themselves? but this is exactly what I was getting at. As a white dude, I'm not going to loving go around calling people "indians" the same way I'm not going to use the n-word. Thanks thread for the feedback though, I'll seriously take it to heart!!! Why are you always a prick about everything
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why are you always a prick about everything I'm not at all, but thanks for your input, internet stranger.
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TheKingofSprings posted:Why are you always a prick about everything It's okay several of my non-indigenous friends are pricks
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i know a native guy from manitoulin and he occasionally calls himself indian  i wouldn't use it myself though. well cya
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations You’re a swell guy doing good work, keep on keepin on. I didn’t get my metis status card, need to send those papers 
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From what I've seen with my many dealings with First Nations people, including family members, if a First Nations person asks you to use terms like Indigenous, Aborigonal and First Nations, it's almost always because they think you're a pale faced rear end in a top hat and they just plain don't like you. I mean ya it's a good idea to not use Native or Indian when you first meet someone but if they don't eventually turn to you and say something along the lines of 'poo poo dude just call me an Indian/Native, it's cool' then it's a good bet that you're not connecting with them on a personal level.
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What's wrong with just using the guy's name?
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How frequently do you find yourself on a first-name basis with someone where you also need to regularly refer to their ethnicity as an abstract?
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You never need to call anyone by a general label. Just use their names, if you don't know, then ask them, and if you can't do that then stop talking or then refer to where they're from.
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations My advice is to avoid the slurs and let your social sphere guide you otherwise. The idea that you shouldn't use words like "native" seems reeeaaal context specific.
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Looking forward to the derivative CanCon tell-all What Also Happened Up Here
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations me, sweating: I tried billing it to uhhhhhhhhhhhindianaffairs and it didn't go through They still haven't changed the billing code from IA internally even though it was renamed in 2015
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just another posted:Literally every native person I know uses the term "native" or "aboriginal". The Ontario curriculum still uses the terminology "Native Studies" (although BC uses "First Peoples"). The "All Native Basketball Tournament" is huge here. "Indian tacos" are beloved, and you're going to sound like a dumbass if you ask the vendor for an "Aboriginal Taco". Also use of the term "Indian" to refer to actual people is appropriate in some contexts, such as in discussing the Indian Act... Whether or not that last thing is true I don't know, but it was said by a Dene activist delivering a workshop on reconciliation and resilience to the local school district. The only people I've ever heard correct use of the term 'native' are academics and a few elders that are very strongly passionate about aboriginal rights. 99% of people probably wouldn't get mad at the term though. If you go around calling people Indians as a white guy you're liable to get a punch in the face however
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Embarrassing anecdote: Until about my early 20's I always thought it was weird that in the local news you always heard about someone who did a thing being East Indian, but there was never anything about West Indian people. East Indian people obviously being those from the east side of India, West Indian from the west side of India. Why the heck were East Indians always the ones causing trouble in Surrey, and never the West Indians? Finally after reading some article and puzzling over it one day I finally bothered to google it. "Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhh. I'm retarded."
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In my defense, Columbus was wrong first. 
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Were there no people from the West Indies in Surrey?
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A Typical Goon posted:Don't use Indian or Native. Indigenous or aboriginal is the correct term. Aboriginals can call themselves 'Indians' if they so chose to in an attempt to empower a word with negative connotations Which communities have you spent the most time working with?
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infernal machines posted:Were there no people from the West Indies in Surrey?
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cougar cub posted:Which communities have you spent the most time working with? I'm not big on getting doxxed so I won't go into too much detail but northwest Ontario There's nothing more eye opening about colonial politics than a trip up to Pikangikum
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No worries - wanted to know if you were involved in any of the Western provinces / territories.
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infernal machines posted:Were there no people from the West Indies in Surrey? There is like 1 Jamaican Beef Patty place in the entire Vancouver area and they don't even use turmeric.
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Eej posted:There is like 1 Jamaican Beef Patty place in the entire Vancouver area and they don't even use turmeric. Oh my god. How do you even live? Best place on earth my rear end. E: Do y'all even know the joy of jerk spice? infernal machines fucked around with this message at 06:43 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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James Baud posted:OTTAWA — Niki Ashton says she’ll continue to champion pulling the federal NDP to the left of the political spectrum, blaming sexist media coverage for her third-place result in Sunday’s leadership race. Saying that an outspoken feminist blamed sexism for her campaign loss when all she said was "It was interesting to sort of watch a lot of the MSM ignore our campaign or discount it" is pretty loving sexist in itself
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https://twitter.com/nationalpost/status/915305418242568193 andrew scheer, extremely normal guy
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