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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Captain_Maclaine posted:

It seems fairly clear at this point that May and co have resigned themselves to not dealing with Brexit in any real way, and are mostly hoping for some reasonable alternative, like for instance all of Europe being incinerated by hostile aliens.

i think basically yeah they're just not gonna deal with it ever if they aren't forced to and the EU doesn't have a lot of ways to force us other than just boot us out so we're like "thats not even a threat m8! ill do it meself!" its really stupid and disrespectful and embarassing so... you know... we brits really did take back control

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Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
may ran an election on leaving with no deal thinking its what people wanted and lost her majority lol so we're going to leave without one anyway lol

someone marry me into another country

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

nopantsjack posted:

lmao they really all do an' all

its why im too scared to read orwells wikipedia
Orwell probably wasn't a nonce but he does openly admit beating his Indian servants because they were being aggravating while dressing him, which as anyone who's been dressed by an indian knows is reasonable [pretty much sic] in I think Down and Out in Paris and London?

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

nopantsjack posted:

lmao they really all do an' all

its why im too scared to read orwells wikipedia

He was a product of his age and uncomfortably racist at times (especially in his earlier books, which he often recognized in later writing and lamented), and his brief, second marriage was a little creepy but the dude was dying at the time so I'm inclined to give him a bit of a pass on it.

jBrereton posted:

Orwell probably wasn't a nonce but he does openly admit beating his Indian servants because they were being aggravating while dressing him, which as anyone who's been dressed by an indian knows is reasonable [pretty much sic] in I think Down and Out in Paris and London?

Yeah, this. He mentioned in either Down and Out or Road to Wigan Pier (I forget which) that "Orientals are very aggravating" or something like it, but in later essays recognizes that he was being a shitheel about it and regrets having said so.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Captain_Maclaine posted:

He was a product of his age and uncomfortably racist at times (especially in his earlier books, which he often recognized in later writing and lamented), and his brief, second marriage was a little creepy but the dude was dying at the time so I'm inclined to give him a bit of a pass on it.


Yeah, this. He mentioned in either Down and Out or Road to Wigan Pier (I forget which) that "Orientals are very aggravating" or something like it, but in later essays recognizes that he was being a shitheel about it and regrets having said so.

he was super homophobic in a lot of his stuff too. his second marriage is kinda funny tho cause he marries some young girl, obviously gets a sex life for the first time ever and writes his only book with a major female character - a young girl the older MC bangs the poo poo outta

the final chapters of wigan pier are extremely relevant still, for one he calls out "fruit juice drinking welwyn garden socialists" and apart from fruit juice drinking nails me to the wall and owns me from beyond the grave

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah, this. He mentioned in either Down and Out or Road to Wigan Pier (I forget which) that "Orientals are very aggravating" or something like it, but in later essays recognizes that he was being a shitheel about it and regrets having said so.

Orwell was also a snitch who reported suspected communists to the cops. It's not a coincidence that he's the one socialist whose literature is universally inspiring to reactionaries.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Orwell was also a snitch who reported suspected communists to the cops. It's not a coincidence that he's the one socialist whose literature is universally inspiring to reactionaries.

youd probably cave too if the awesome power of her majesty's constabulary came knocking at the door, chum!

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Orwell was also a snitch who reported suspected communists to the cops.
Maybe that was because of his real-world interactions with communists during the Spanish Civil War?

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

jBrereton posted:

Maybe that was because of his real-world interactions with communists during the Spanish Civil War?

Does apologizing for cops hour come after tea time?

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Jose posted:

may ran an election on leaving with no deal thinking its what people wanted and lost her majority lol so we're going to leave without one anyway lol

someone marry me into another country

how do u feel about america

Captain_Maclaine
Sep 30, 2001

Every moment I'm alive, I pray for death!

jBrereton posted:

Maybe that was because of his real-world interactions with communists during the Spanish Civil War?

Yeah, given that the NKVD put a hit out on him for being in POUM, I can see why he'd have a dim view of (people he thought were) Soviet-linked communists.

Josef bugman
Nov 17, 2011

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Captain_Maclaine posted:

Yeah, given that the NKVD put a hit out on him for being in POUM, I can see why he'd have a dim view of (people he thought were) Soviet-linked communists.

That is one of the things I am willing to give Orwell. If you've been shot at by your own side because Stalin doesn't like you, I think finding people who back Stalin and going "y'all are fuckers" is the least you can do.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

"Snitching to capitalist dogs is cool if you have a grudge."

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Does apologizing for cops hour come after tea time?
Mainly after very lightly trolling unreflective 21st century tankies time.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

please god make this mutant the next leader of the Tory party

https://twitter.com/iankatz1000/status/915337934420758530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

jBrereton posted:

Mainly after very lightly trolling unreflective 21st century tankies time.

Orwell was constructing a list of people he suspected of being communists. Even in the perfectly dumbass world where it's acceptable to snitch on actual card-carrying Kremlin agents, he was fingering innocent comrades and colleagues.

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
https://www.standard.co.uk/news/politics/boris-johnson-urges-tory-mps-to-back-theresa-may-in-leaked-whatsapp-message-a3562371.html

They might be onto something big here.

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004


lots of Tory inter party fighting and internal planning is done on WhatsApp so the first part is not wrong

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

kruger means butcher in german

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

The opening paragraphs :wow:

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

Squizzle posted:

oh christ what did he do

he's just kind of bad

https://samkriss.com/2014/10/08/gently caress-stephen-fry-towards-a-new-theory-of-ghosts/
:spooky:

Vitamin P
Nov 19, 2013

Truth is game rigging is more difficult than it looks pls stay ded

Squizzle posted:

ffs plz dont say he did what literally every fancy british man does, to children

Fry is a pedo based on the following damning circumstanssssial evidence what i have gathered



his husband is really young and its a bit weird

Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

if I was gay I'd totally gently caress a way older guy tbf

Lastgirl
Sep 7, 1997


Good Morning!
Sunday Morning!

Zikan posted:

please god make this mutant the next leader of the Tory party

https://twitter.com/iankatz1000/status/915337934420758530?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw

rees-mug was vat grown and homeschooled in a castle

I.N.R.I
May 26, 2011

Jose posted:

may ran an election on leaving with no deal thinking its what people wanted and lost her majority lol so we're going to leave without one anyway lol

someone marry me into another country

the article just says they have a contingency plan in case the negotiations fail. which they should have .. so its really just about nothing.

Yinlock
Oct 22, 2008


arguing guerrillas

rebel in face-paint: *drops from tree* LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT THE FREE MARKET

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/TomKibasi/statu...ber%3D18%23pti4

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

glad to know im making a difference

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

Whorelord posted:

if I was gay I'd totally gently caress a way older guy tbf

If I were gay I'd gently caress Steven Fry.

You get me drunk enough I could probably get half into it now. :parrot:

Oben
Aug 7, 2004

Oh, the lights changed

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


https://twitter.com/KateMaltby/status/915218836303024128

Labour shouldn't campaign against Amber Rudd because she's a woman, despite her being absolute garbage.

DesperateDan
Dec 10, 2005

Where's my cow?

Is that my cow?

No it isn't, but it still tramples my bloody lavender.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/smashmorePH/sta...er%3D21%23pti24

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro



https://twitter.com/petercbowden/status/915536642500382720

Zikan
Feb 29, 2004

STRONG AND STABLE

https://twitter.com/brexit/status/915537175860600832

dimebag dinkman
Feb 20, 2003

https://twitter.com/JoelWitts/status/915551601070362624

(not an edit)

jBrereton
May 30, 2013
Grimey Drawer
https://twitter.com/Ned_Donovan/status/915546587056795648

Their building a country that works for everyone sign has fallen to pieces lmao just lmao

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/PickardJE/statu...pagenumber%3D24

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Whorelord
May 1, 2013

Jump into the well...

theresa may's breakdown since the election would've been tragic if she wasn't a Tory instead it's kind of funny

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