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Hey Dead Reckoning, what do you think about former felons having their right to own firearms restored?
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https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/915390502337482753 kind of weird the virginia race isnt getting more support from the national democratic party unless they've got some internal numbers that tell them that the race isn't actually close
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Yes, it is sad. There really is no way to prevent people from gathering large amount of firearms explicitly made for the destruction of human life. No other nation on Earth has ever done it, in fact in all other places regardless of laws, there are also mass shootings every day. It might be an immutable law of nature. Nothing we can do about it though. Thousands of dead from such violence every day is just the price everyone in the world pays for "FREEDOM", just like in all other democratic nations were the same thing happens all the time.... http://www.theonion.com/article/no-way-prevent-says-only-nation-where-regularly-ha-51444
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"Hey I didn't come here to argue about how to best control gun violence. I'm just here to tell you that guns aren't the problem and you should not do anything to prevent people from getting any kind of weapon" Boy these arguments are sure useful, DR, Jackal, et. al.
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BrandorKP posted:Cross posting from the Trump thread in case anybody missed this one: Holy poo poo, I can't even imagine the frame of mind you'd need to feel compelled to try and have your own stepson deported.  Just disgusting. It's like an American Stasi. Teriyaki Koinku fucked around with this message at 13:45 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Oct 4, 2017 13:41
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Mulva posted:I don't own firearms, for a myriad of reasons. I do like blowing poo poo up, but guns aren't actually the best way to do that. And explosives are a sometimes treat. Wait, you think the US has more in common with Mexico than with Australia? Historically, the Aussies have had a lot of close similarities to US culture, such as a history of deep government-enforced racism which a substantial minority openly pines for.
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Dead Reckoning posted:I just don't worry about mass shootings or terrorist attacks. I really don't. I will continue to go to street fairs and outdoor concerts. I know that I am orders of magnitude more likely to die from being hit by some rear end in a top hat texting on their phone or driving six martinis deep, especially given the number of high risk miles I drive per year. This does not stop me from owning a cell phone or consuming alcohol. eat poo poo im glad that the fact that their deaths were unlikely is comfort for the dead and their families eat poo poo endlessly my deepest regret right now is that you aren't suffering for this post
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at the end of the day, i accept that my freedom means that other people may suffer, and i am noble enough to accept their suffering to preserve my right to play dress-up hero
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What an rear end in a top hat
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Oct 4, 2017 16:18
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QuoProQuid posted:https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/915390502337482753 Northam hasn't trailed in any poll yet conducted and is up by an average of 5.5 points even when you include the lovely pollsters. https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2017/governor/va/virginia_governor_gillespie_vs_northam-6197.html https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virginia_gubernatorial_election,_2017
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QuoProQuid posted:https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/915390502337482753 I tried working with local dems in Richmond and let me just say the party here is dumb as gently caress. A county chair in the western part of the state just resigned because of lack of support or interest from the party. They're banking on NOVA, Richmond, and Norfolk to carry the state and anything outside of that doesn't matter to them.
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evilweasel posted:at the end of the day, i accept that my freedom means that other people may suffer, and i am noble enough to accept their suffering to preserve my right to play dress-up hero This is the real root of all of Dead Reckoning's arguments - he correctly recognizes his privilege as a straight white man in the US, and he doesn't want anything to change because he (incorrectly) thinks that that means he loses something. All of the 'deontologist!' bullshit is just trying to rationalize it.
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captainblastum posted:This is the real root of all of Dead Reckoning's arguments - he correctly recognizes his privilege as a straight white man in the US, and he doesn't want anything to change because he (incorrectly) thinks that that means he loses something. All of the 'deontologist!' bullshit is just trying to rationalize it. He argued in GiP that it was a matter of his ethical position
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On Terra Firma posted:I tried working with local dems in Richmond and let me just say the party here is dumb as gently caress. A county chair in the western part of the state just resigned because of lack of support or interest from the party. They're banking on NOVA, Richmond, and Norfolk to carry the state and anything outside of that doesn't matter to them. Goddamnit I thought they were supposed to be trying to get all the elections full of candidates instead of just letting Republicans run unopposed in districts that went Clinton...
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On Terra Firma posted:I tried working with local dems in Richmond and let me just say the party here is dumb as gently caress. A county chair in the western part of the state just resigned because of lack of support or interest from the party. They're banking on NOVA, Richmond, and Norfolk to carry the state and anything outside of that doesn't matter to them. I'm pretty sure Charlottesville is a decent blue bet.
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QuoProQuid posted:https://twitter.com/PeterHamby/status/915390502337482753
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axeil posted:Northam hasn't trailed in any poll yet conducted and is up by an average of 5.5 points even when you include the lovely pollsters. I've seen this before recently... 
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Radish posted:Goddamnit I thought they were supposed to be trying to get all the elections full of candidates instead of just letting Republicans run unopposed in districts that went Clinton...
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Radish posted:Goddamnit I thought they were supposed to be trying to get all the elections full of candidates instead of just letting Republicans run unopposed in districts that went Clinton... They are. http://www.npr.org/2017/08/31/546191644/shut-out-of-power-in-d-c-democrats-try-to-make-inroads-in-virginia-this-fall http://www.vahousedems.org/our-candidates http://bluevirginia.us/2017/02/2017-virginia-democratic-house-candidates-district https://ballotpedia.org/Virginia_House_of_Delegates_elections,_2017 Dems have no candidate 12 districts. GOP has no candidate in 28 districts. (There are 100 total districts) Last election (2015) the Dems had no candidates in 44 Districts  so they're doing much better this go around.The current balance of power is 66 GOP Delegates to 34 Dem Delegates. There are 7 seats with incumbents retiring, 6 GOP (Districts 2, 28, 42, 56, 64, and 72) and 1 Dem (District 89). All of those 6 districts has a Dem challenger and the single Dem retirement district has the new Democrat running unopposed. Dems need to pick up 17 seats for a majority. Coincidentally, Hillary won in 17 seats currently held by the GOP:  On this list Districts 2, 42, and 72 no longer have incumbents and would be the most likely pick-ups. Here's the history of VA government control since 1992:  In short, the House of Delegates is very much in play and the Dems are making a strong push for it but they're not trying to give the race national attention as that hasn't proven very effective (see: GA-06) edit: if you want more info the Ballotpedia link is your best bet. axeil fucked around with this message at 17:00 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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On Terra Firma posted:I tried working with local dems in Richmond and let me just say the party here is dumb as gently caress. A county chair in the western part of the state just resigned because of lack of support or interest from the party. They're banking on NOVA, Richmond, and Norfolk to carry the state and anything outside of that doesn't matter to them. I know a bunch of people who work / worked in Virginia politics and it's really a whole different beast from regular state or national politics. poo poo like that is normal there, but it doesn't really affect much outside of VA (until they run for national office, obviously  )
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captainblastum posted:This is the real root of all of Dead Reckoning's arguments - he correctly recognizes his privilege as a straight white man in the US, and he doesn't want anything to change because he (incorrectly) thinks that that means he loses something. All of the 'deontologist!' bullshit is just trying to rationalize it. It's so trivial to show that having weapons in their home makes them indisputably and measurably less safe they have no recourse but to resort to weird abstract and philosophical arguments. That's fine, we can still uphold their right to their weird obsessive hobby while pushing for legislation that can actually make us all safer like making straw purchases more difficult and requiring gun owners to keep better track of the weapons registered in their name.
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I'm reminded of a debate I got into on another forum about ten years ago. A guy had a ton of guns and was bragging about how he trained his sons "paramilitary style" so they could defend his neighborhood in case society collapsed. Valiantly defend his neighbors from the black masses I guess. He lived in Oregon, I think. I said that if that really happened, and I were one of his neighbors, I'd assume he was planning to kill me and take my stuff. He got really mad at that.
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considering how common lead rounds still are, a shooting range has gotta end up kicking up a bunch of lead dust. even somebody going hunting with lead rounds, that lead is gonna end up in the meat from what you kill, take home and eat. i wonder if that has some kind of effect on people...
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axeil posted:They are. As a follow-up to this we do have a thread for talking about state-level elections this year in Virginia and New Jersey: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3804125&userid=0&perpage=40&pagenumber=1
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The reason the rural Shenandoah visits are getting cut out is simple. They don't have voters. the party chair who temporarily resigned is for Rockbridge County, Buena Vista City, and Lexington City. In the 2014 Senate campaign, Warner put a lot of effort into the more rural areas. This was the result Rockbridge Candidate Votes Percent Mark R. Warner 2713 41.33% Ed W. Gillespie 3696 56.31% Buena Vista Candidate Votes Percent Mark R. Warner 475 39.38% Ed W. Gillespie 692 57.37% Lexington Candidate Votes Percent Mark R. Warner 981 64.62% Ed W. Gillespie 501 33% In the year previous you had the 2013 gov campaign and T. Mac put less effort into the rural areas. This was the result. Rockbridge Terry R. McAuliffe 2,431 36.19% Ken T. Cuccinelli II 3,640 54.18% Buena Vista Terry R. McAuliffe 422 33.90% Ken T. Cuccinelli II 721 57.91% Lexington Terry R. McAuliffe 936 61.62% Ken T. Cuccinelli II 499 32.85% So specific campaigning and targeting for you to pick up 380 votes. Between the two elections the Republican votes are fairly flat, you just have to figure out how valuable those 380 votes are to you.
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Instant Sunrise posted:considering how common lead rounds still are, a shooting range has gotta end up kicking up a bunch of lead dust. even somebody going hunting with lead rounds, that lead is gonna end up in the meat from what you kill, take home and eat. yeah it transforms them into the roman citizen warrior #patriots who built the west and are #proud of it MOLON LABE
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Oct 4, 2017 17:09
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So how many more days are you all gonna continue gun control chat? (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 4, 2017 17:14
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Shifty Nipples posted:So how many more days are you all gonna continue gun control chat? Until the mass shootings stop.
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Instant Sunrise posted:even somebody going hunting with lead rounds, that lead is gonna end up in the meat from what you kill, take home and eat. Nice classism, those gross
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Trabisnikof posted:Until the mass shootings stop. Or we pass gun control!
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Trabisnikof posted:Until the mass shootings stop. Nevvy Z posted:Or we pass gun control! Gonna be a while then.
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Shifty Nipples posted:Gonna be a while then. Yep. Welcome to the party.
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I, personally, intend to stop talking about gun control on friday and I encourage yall to follow suit
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Yardbomb posted:Nice classism, those gross i mean, the effects of lead exposure on people and on the environment is kind of a well known thing at this point. and those lead bullets have to go somewhere. especially when somebody is hunting waterfowl with shotguns that fire a bunch of tiny lead pellets at once that end up in a body of water. that probably has an effect on the environment.
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captainblastum posted:This is the real root of all of Dead Reckoning's arguments - he correctly recognizes his privilege as a straight white man in the US, and he doesn't want anything to change because he (incorrectly) thinks that that means he loses something. All of the 'deontologist!' bullshit is just trying to rationalize it.
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Don't believe Big Med and Big Enviro, lead is fine. i take lead supplements every day
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twodot posted:Even if Dead Reckoning is, specifically, full of poo poo, I do think you need a better answer to "my deontology tells me individual freedoms are good, and if increasing individual freedoms also increases injuries/deaths, so be it" than "oh, you're just a horrible monster". Because as an absolute, the law against murder restricts my freedom to lash out angrily. "All freedoms, drat the cost" is Might Makes Right and so yeah it is a pretty monsterous ideology.
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