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Mr. Nice! posted:The russians already breached the executive, though. yeah, but we're not to the point of getting the daily menu report though. That's the good stuff.
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That's what, fourteen of those 100-round mags stacked back there? Jesus Christ.
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But he's not a gun nut
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Duzzy Funlop posted:That's what, fourteen of those 100-round mags stacked back there? Also most of the guns in the pictures have them attached. Guy planned on doing a loving lot of shooting, gently caress
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Am I wrong seeing this, https://twitter.com/TheRoot/status/915462071956983808 And thinking it's incredibly tone deaf? I don't disagree that those events were terrible and that they're worth discussing and remembering, but come the gently caress on. It's loving genocide olympics/whataboutism of the dumbest magnitude at this point.
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Duke Chin posted:Man I do not get it either. My gf's mother My son-in-law got an Alexa for my wife as a "good thing". So far, we've put it to use telling Shakespearean yo mama jokes and dadjokes. The Shakespeares are good.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Am I wrong seeing this, It's tone deaf and stupid
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Oct 4, 2017 15:28
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Identity politics is a hell of a drug
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Handsome Ralph posted:Am I wrong seeing this, CNN continues to be oblivious. They suffer from clintonisn, where despite having good people and good content, the generally can't manage to use it without loving up. Not to mention im starting to view neoliberal policies as particularly well suited to bring tone deaf by design
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Oct 4, 2017 15:42
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Handsome Ralph posted:Am I wrong seeing this, Seems reasonable to point out that "deadliest mass shooting in US history" actually means "deadliest criminal mass shooting by an individual in modern US history". Plenty of people aren't aware of the massacres in our history that were swept aside with no consequences.
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Oct 4, 2017 16:08
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So Tillerson is out by Friday afternoon yea?
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cowboy elvis posted:So Tillerson is out by Friday afternoon yea? If recent history is anything to go by he's already resigned at this point.
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Oct 4, 2017 16:15
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Has Trump said he has full confidence in him? That's the real kiss of death.
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Oct 4, 2017 16:16
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given how prepared the shooter was with his camera in the hallway, planning and arsenal I'm honestly surprised this wasn't more damaging than it was. He could have made the assault on his room hell if he wanted to. And I know the assault team is gunna be dog rear end tired after hauling all their poo poo up 32 flights of stairs....I don't know what SOP is in regards to using elevators.
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Waroduce posted:given how prepared the shooter was with his camera in the hallway, planning and arsenal I'm honestly surprised this wasn't more damaging than it was. He could have made the assault on his room hell if he wanted to. And I know the assault team is gunna be dog rear end tired after hauling all their poo poo up 32 flights of stairs....I don't know what SOP is in regards to using elevators. Like someone mentioned before, they probably took a service elevator most of the way. You don't want your breach and assault team to take 20 minutes and be exhausted when they get there.
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:Seems reasonable to point out that "deadliest mass shooting in US history" actually means "deadliest criminal mass shooting by an individual in modern US history". Plenty of people aren't aware of the massacres in our history that were swept aside with no consequences. That's fair and fine. Problem is, you will still get people who as soon as you say "deadliest criminal mass shooting" will start to shout you down for "implying" that somehow the Tulsa Race Riots or other massacres weren't criminal or terrible. I don't think it's unreasonable to remind people that these events occurred, but it just reeks of whataboutism that is anything but helpful right now.
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https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/915596990674849792 Our special boy.
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NBCNews: Tillerson called Trump a moron Tillerson: Not gonna talk about it Trump/Scavino: HAH I'M VINDICATED NBCNews: well, actually https://twitter.com/MSignorile/status/915597090155372545 CNN: yep NBC is right https://twitter.com/ryanbeckwith/status/915594258450731009
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Nick Soapdish posted:Our special boy. Even better, he's tweeting that (technically it's probably mulvaney with the account logged on, but semantics) because NBC is reporting that rexy called him a "loving moron". Rex just had an unannounced press conference to affirm his support and deny rumors that he's resigning https://twitter.com/_brittanyv/status/915597197328179205
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quote:Propublica has Ivanka and Don Junior (Fredo) escaping a felony fraud charge over Trump SoHo in 2012 because a donor (and Trump lawyer) got involved and the DA dropped the case, against the recommendation of the DA's team. Id like to point out that the unit in the Manhattan DA's office, the one that was reportedly overruled regarding the fraud investigation, is widely respected. In fact, they were the unit which was responsible for one of the most sucessful financial prosecutions in history. http://manhattanda.org/press-release/da-vance-and-major-economic-crimes-bureau-receive-department-justice-award-investigati
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Oct 4, 2017 16:35
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I'm seeing alot of random chatter about the shooter streaming the inside of his hotel room
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RIP Tillerson. Any favorites to
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[quote="“Handsome Ralph”" post="“477047502”"] That’s fair and fine. Problem is, you will still get people who as soon as you say “deadliest criminal mass shooting” will start to shout you down for “implying” that somehow the Tulsa Race Riots or other massacres weren’t criminal or terrible. I don’t think it’s unreasonable to remind people that these events occurred, but it just reeks of whataboutism that is anything but helpful right now. [/quote] Weird thing about that article is that every incident was done under color of law and they dismissed some others because they were done "by police". All those massacres were done by the police or military. The article could've gone over the same point about there being many massacres on this scale without such a misunderstanding of the incidents.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Am I wrong seeing this, Listen, if you go onto the militant black website that just acquired Very Smart Brothas and recently got bought by Univision, you're gonna get a black as hell story. Seeing as how the shooting happened at a country festival, how are they supposed to tie back to their core audience? Any time to remind people of the multiple Rosewood massacre is a good time. Wipipo get the gold metal in the genocide Olympics.
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shame on an IGA posted:Oh man that is a great username If only my posts were as good!
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KirbyKhan posted:Listen, if you go onto the militant black website that just acquired Very Smart Brothas and recently got bought by Univision, you're gonna get a black as hell story. Seeing as how the shooting happened at a country festival, how are they supposed to tie back to their core audience? I actually saw it reposted by a friend of mine (who is white), as well as seeing a similar talking point pop up across lefty twitter. I get it. They aren't wrong. I just think it's a dumb take and reaction to have at the moment in light of "hey so yeah 60 people are dead from this crazy lone gunman, but that's nothing compared to THIS massacre." Though now I'm finally starting to see friends on FB post dumb conspiracy bullshit. So it's probably just me getting tired of everyone inserting their dumb takes into this. I'm just gonna take a break from social media. poo poo ain't worth it.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Am I wrong seeing this, Handsome Ralph posted:That's fair and fine. Problem is, you will still get people who as soon as you say "deadliest criminal mass shooting" will start to shout you down for "implying" that somehow the Tulsa Race Riots or other massacres weren't criminal or terrible. You have no idea what whataboutism means, stop using that word.
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at the date posted:You have no idea what whataboutism means, stop using that word. Whataboutism is saying "I know we're all talking about X, but what about..." which is what that article is doing. It's not inherently wrong but in most cases it seems to be. If I'm in the wrong here, then fine, I'm in the wrong. But that is whataboutism.
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cowboy elvis posted:So Tillerson is out by Friday afternoon yea? The real question is which active duty commander is gonna replace him when Donnie fails to find someone competent to work for him voluntarily? Oh wait, that position needs to be a civilian, doesn't it? Maybe Ivanka then Slim Pickens fucked around with this message at 17:45 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Sacrist65 posted:Id like to point out that the unit in the Manhattan DA's office, the one that was reportedly overruled regarding the fraud investigation, is widely respected. In fact, they were the unit which was responsible for one of the most sucessful financial prosecutions in history. "INVESTIGATION AND PROSECTION" Hope they're better in the courtroom than in spellchecker.
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Handsome Ralph posted:Whataboutism is saying "I know we're all talking about X, but what about..." which is what that article is doing. It's not inherently wrong but in most cases it seems to be. Whataboutism is a way of dismissing something bad by comparing it to something else. In this case, whataboutism would be saying that this shooting isn't a big deal because the one in Norway was worse. In the article they're not trying to dismiss the gravity of this shooting, but rather pointing out that more qualifiers need to be added to "the deadliest mass shooting in US history" because it's just not accurate.
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Fister Roboto posted:Whataboutism is a way of dismissing something bad by comparing it to something else. In this case, whataboutism would be saying that this shooting isn't a big deal because the one in Norway was worse. In the article they're not trying to dismiss the gravity of this shooting, but rather pointing out that more qualifiers need to be added to "the deadliest mass shooting in US history" because it's just not accurate. Alright, that's a fair assesment, and I'll admit I was wrong. I took the article at face value saying that "the shooting isn't as big a deal because of" and they aren't actually saying that. Mea culpa.
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Fister Roboto posted:Whataboutism is a way of dismissing something bad by comparing it to something else. In this case, whataboutism would be saying that this shooting isn't a big deal because the one in Norway was worse. In the article they're not trying to dismiss the gravity of this shooting, but rather pointing out that more qualifiers need to be added to "the deadliest mass shooting in US history" because it's just not accurate. Hey, could have made the headline: "America continues to be terrible, we've been murdering Indians and protestors for decades" Instead they whataboutismed that point with the Vegas shooting E; I'm saying your definition is far to narrow, this is it being used stupidly in practice not just theory.
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Donnie still has confidence in Tillerson as of 10 minutes or so ago. How long did it take to go from that point to gone for Price? I doubt Donnie has even had a chance to finish screaming at him yet.
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Whataboutism specifically refers to defending your side from an accusation by accusing your opponent of something else without actually denying the original charge. Just because you can rephrase an article like the one about the historical massacres as "What about other massacres" does not mean it's whataboutism. If the shooter had been Native American, and the article was defending/minimizing his actions by saying "You people did way worse to Indians in the 1800s" or "You blow up weddings in Yemen," that would be whataboutism.
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What about when trump got an 8 year old American girl shot through the neck and she bled out.
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And besides, the article is just true. The Root has an agenda but they happen to be 100% right here. You can seriously address the Las Vegas shooting without falsely calling it the worst massacre in US history, and if I were a person whose ancestors were uniquely prone to being massacred I'd probably be pretty ticked off too. e: gently caress it Eugene V. Dubstep fucked around with this message at 18:22 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Re: the Tillerson quote, there really is a Trump tweet for everything https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/524960640117780480
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at the date posted:And besides, the article is just true. The Root has an agenda but they happen to be 100% right here. You can seriously address the Las Vegas shooting without falsely calling it the worst massacre in US history, and if I were a person whose ancestors were uniquely prone to being massacred I'd probably be pretty ticked off too. I think my issue wasn't so much with the Root article (because I agree with you, the core point the author makes is correct), but more with how people I know have pushed it as a sort of Genocide Olympics style argument. It left a sour taste in my mouth and rather than read through the entire article with an open mind, I had already arrived at the conclusion the article's author was doing the same thing I'd seen others doing (engaging in Genocide Olympics debate). He's not.
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