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Elephant Ambush posted:Demonsblood is actually good now because you can combo it with Could USB builds and have everyone in the party hit him with Double Cut and Tempo Flurry so that he retaliates like a chainsaw. Whoah
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I'm not going to get every prize but I got all the unique and important stuff so I'm not too broken up about it. There will always be more motes and crystals and lodes.
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GreenBuckanneer posted:Wrong. But is it your second wrathable dark imperil? Fenrir trip report. Picking up Tyro's new USB and Edea's BSB has finally allowed me to beat him. My pulls this fest were terrible but in the end it didn't matter. I ran the numbers and it turns out without magicite bonuses I wouldn't hit 6 hits with Edea's BSB without synergy bonuses. Thanks magicite!
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bilperkins2 posted:Wow those are skills I haven't used in a LONG time, good times. Every time they add a "inflict with slow" condition on a dungeon boss I end up spamming Tempo Flurry to proc it
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Oct 4, 2017 19:44
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Oct 4, 2017 19:47
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KPC_Mammon posted:But is it your second wrathable dark imperil? naabat can wrath? Nice!
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Oct 4, 2017 19:58
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Has anyone got sub 30 seconds on the omega fight? I've been getting squashed by it using variations on the Cloud/Zach party someone posted earlier. I get him to about 2/3rds or 3/4ths down around 30 seconds and then it's 3 AoE effects dropped before I can get an action off. Figure if I can just tune to blow him up before 30 I don't have to worry about it. I've also never gotten to the stage where you can stop him apparently, as usually one of the last acts that happens before I get multi-AoE'd to death is getting a no effect stop effect on him.
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Hate to keep shilling Gamefaqs but another interesting thread: DPS Rankings, sorted by Elemental. Here's the previous thread: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/114492-final-fantasy-record-keeper/75605878
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alansmithee posted:Has anyone got sub 30 seconds on the omega fight? I've been getting squashed by it using variations on the Cloud/Zach party someone posted earlier. I get him to about 2/3rds or 3/4ths down around 30 seconds and then it's 3 AoE effects dropped before I can get an action off. Figure if I can just tune to blow him up before 30 I don't have to worry about it. I've also never gotten to the stage where you can stop him apparently, as usually one of the last acts that happens before I get multi-AoE'd to death is getting a no effect stop effect on him. iPodschun posted:
Setzer is there for Entrust so he can be any support 5. Relm's slot is someone that can cast Stop with high MND; TG Cid RM equipped so that once Omega drops under 50%, you can cast Stop ASAP. This is the video I got the Lightning+Noctis+Zack idea from: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_N1U_F5ZKuo
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alansmithee posted:Has anyone got sub 30 seconds on the omega fight? I've been getting squashed by it using variations on the Cloud/Zach party someone posted earlier. I get him to about 2/3rds or 3/4ths down around 30 seconds and then it's 3 AoE effects dropped before I can get an action off. Figure if I can just tune to blow him up before 30 I don't have to worry about it. I've also never gotten to the stage where you can stop him apparently, as usually one of the last acts that happens before I get multi-AoE'd to death is getting a no effect stop effect on him. I cribbed a team build off of a YT video I found on Reddit, got to ~20s clear. Bartz: Snowspell Strike (R3, though if short on crystals, R2 + R1 should be fine), USB, TG Cid Mode Materia Agrias: Saint Cross (R3+), BSB, Doublecast Knight Materia Ramza: Armor Breakdown + Full Break, Shout, Mako Might Relm: Stop + Shellga, BSB, Dr Mog's Teachings Entrust Bot w/Ace Striker. RW: Cloud USB I figure the important parts are TG Cid mode and doublecast on your main damage-breaking DPS (so Cloud, if you have Native USB) and a secondary DPS that can contribute to a fair degree - Saint Cross is reliable damage (and, if you have a dived Agrias, has a 30% minor imperil proc), but a monk with Lifebane could work (assumedly, if you're running Cloud with a native USB, you're dumping Omega Drive on him). If you're speed-clearing, last stand is insurance in case you can't push through its first two phases fast enough plus insurance against Rocket Punch RNG, but the biggest key point is an instant-curaja burst and high MND for Stop. The thing about Omega is it's an incredibly scripted fight - you have 4 (5, if you don't mind soaking a hit) of its actions in the first phase to get it down to 70% before it starts spamming AoE nukes at you, after which it uses Targeting, and then Ultimate Rocket Punch (9999 damage)/Ultimate Mustard Bomb (piercing attack) at a 50/50 shot, follows up with Wave Cannon (which is pretty inaccurate if you have instant death protection on), and then starts the AoEs again. Get it down to 50% and it becomes vulnerable to stop, but you only have a single turn (Ultimate Rainbow Wind, a nondamaging spell that poisons your team) to land Stop before it opens up the murder train again. In other words, you have roughly five turns to get it down to a little less than 3/4ths, three more turns to get it down to half, and then pray your stop hits on the first shot. EDIT: ceaselessfuture posted:Hate to keep shilling Gamefaqs but another interesting thread: DPS Rankings, sorted by Elemental. That is goddamn unreadable, what the hell. KataraniSword fucked around with this message at 22:32 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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KataraniSword posted:
Yeah, his formatting sucks poo poo, and his predilection towards using ackronyms based on the translated JP ability names, and not the GL names, really sucks too. Oh and the way he uses like Lightning_3 in absolutely no discernable order. Still though!
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He just needs to stuff it all into a badly formatted spreadsheet to reach peak unreadable nerd poo poo.
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BGrifter posted:He just needs to stuff it all into a badly formatted spreadsheet to reach peak unreadable nerd poo poo. But then there could be wonderful bar graphs to help us see how amazingly bad everything is per his metrics
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Man I was excited to pull Edea and Rinoa's BSBs, hoping it would speed up my Fenrir clears...I was extremely disappointed. First attempt I couldn't even clear it, second took 1:10, which is about 20 seconds longer than my physical team, which is completely reliant on a dived Bartz spamming Snowspell Strike and Celes using her BSB2, which doesn't even have high ice potency. Everyone was talking Edea's BSB up and I could see how it would be awesome for regular content, but it's kind of a turd in this magicite fight, it was doing like 10k damage with Leylines, BSB mode, and en-ice up.
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ceaselessfuture posted:Yeah, his formatting sucks poo poo, and his predilection towards using ackronyms based on the translated JP ability names, and not the GL names, really sucks too. Ehhh, while I won't poo poo on Raoxi or gamefaqs as I do use it for info, but as far as I can tell, his numbers are mostly theoretical and probably best used as a general rule reference that these relics are decent or whatever and not some be all, end all guide. Roulette update: 3700 yet, it'll be an interesting final few runs for me.
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iamsosmrt posted:Ehhh, while I won't poo poo on Raoxi or gamefaqs as I do use it for info, but as far as I can tell, his numbers are mostly theoretical and probably best used as a general rule reference that these relics are decent or whatever and not some be all, end all guide. Absolutely. For me, for instance, I was happy to find Ace with just his USB as a top option. Will my Ace be as good as a decked out Terra on a day 1 account? Hell no, but it will probably mean I'll see great results if I use him. There's generally too much theory in his theorycrafting, but ballparks remain useful I think.
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KataraniSword posted:I cribbed a team build off of a YT video I found on Reddit, got to ~20s clear.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:Man I was excited to pull Edea and Rinoa's BSBs, hoping it would speed up my Fenrir clears...I was extremely disappointed. So you're not using Memento Mori or CMD2? The former doesn't stack with Leylines, but that's just more reason to bring a faithga that does stack. If you aren't hitting the Mag to do 6 hits, you aren't stacking enough faiths. My Edea can hit the damage capx6 with her BSB CMD1, with Rinoa's chain and stacking Imperils. Without the chain it's more like 5k but that's still respectable damage.
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ZiegeDame posted:So you're not using Memento Mori or CMD2? The former doesn't stack with Leylines, but that's just more reason to bring a faithga that does stack. If you aren't hitting the Mag to do 6 hits, you aren't stacking enough faiths. My Edea can hit the damage capx6 with her BSB CMD1, with Rinoa's chain and stacking Imperils. Without the chain it's more like 5k but that's still respectable damage. Without chain, imperil, or boosting gear mine is hitting for just under 7k*6. It made the fight go from unwinnable to breezy. No regrets spending money for it. The amount of self buffs she brings to the table makes it absurdly easy to use.
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ZiegeDame posted:So you're not using Memento Mori or CMD2? The former doesn't stack with Leylines, but that's just more reason to bring a faithga that does stack. If you aren't hitting the Mag to do 6 hits, you aren't stacking enough faiths. My Edea can hit the damage capx6 with her BSB CMD1, with Rinoa's chain and stacking Imperils. Without the chain it's more like 5k but that's still respectable damage. I tried it out with double faithgas and it brought it up to like 20k per cast, which isn't bad I guess, but considering Bartz throws out 40k double-casts without even being en-iced, I'm still not really impressed. Double faithgas also means losing a DPS slot so it really was kind of a wash. There's no way I'm capping mag without like 3 faithgas, at which point I'd be relying on 1 DPS source, and that seems like a bad idea. My faithga options are pretty much Cid's BSB, Sheepsong, Leylines, OK's BSB, and Yuna's BSB.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I tried it out with double faithgas and it brought it up to like 20k per cast, which isn't bad I guess, but considering Bartz throws out 40k double-casts without even being en-iced, I'm still not really impressed. Double faithgas also means losing a DPS slot so it really was kind of a wash. There's no way I'm capping mag without like 3 faithgas, at which point I'd be relying on 1 DPS source, and that seems like a bad idea. She can use memento mori and her CMD 2 is a faithga. It is really easy to cap. I double checked and she is hitting for 40k for me. I'm using Cid BSB and Tyro USB2, which is enough to not even need her second command unless one of them is slowed.
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Grizzled Patriarch posted:I tried it out with double faithgas and it brought it up to like 20k per cast, which isn't bad I guess, but considering Bartz throws out 40k double-casts without even being en-iced, I'm still not really impressed. Double faithgas also means losing a DPS slot so it really was kind of a wash. There's no way I'm capping mag without like 3 faithgas, at which point I'd be relying on 1 DPS source, and that seems like a bad idea.
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KPC_Mammon posted:She can use memento mori and her CMD 2 is a faithga. It is really easy to cap. Hmm, I'll give it another shot, I'm not sure what I was doing wrong then. I wasn't running MM because it didn't stack with the faithga I was using, but I can try Cid's BSB and maybe OK with it.
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The buff softcap is x2.5 which you will slightly be over with three 30% Faithgas and Burst Mode. So Edea will want around 482 MAG before buffs. Well, a bit then that less really with any Magicite bonuses and however buffs are calculated past softcap, but I just go with 2.5 for planning equipment and RM choices. I think Rinoa has the same threshold, if not slightly smaller, for her boosted multiplier too (assuming you're talking about her BSB2) but her Command 1 maxed out does less then Chain Blizzaga so it's only good if you can get more then 5k per hit. Chain Blizzaga is 11.80/2 hits, Edea is 12.00/6 hits, and Rinoa is just 10.20/4 hits.
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Finally got stupid Omega. I had to use a Terra OSB spam team and it took tons of reloads.
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Elephant Ambush posted:Congrats dude. You've taken your first step into a larger world. Thanks bud.  I still have to beat six more Nightmare bosses, no idea what to expect from Magicites.More newbie news: Wow, I went from suffering through the past few Torments (and not beating some), to mastering and getting my first 3CM on third try. This is definitely one of the easier ones right? Also helps that V is where I have the most synergy. First had Faris stack on her wind imperils, then let Bartz do his USB > Cloud USB > Tornado Strike madness doing about 12K per hit. Then moved on to Dorgann stacking earth imperil and Bartz repeating with Quake Strike. Got so many good procs that he only needed to use Quake Strike once.    And to top it off I got the power orbs  From what I'm reading, you're guaranteed 3 majors from each D300? and is it of either fire/power or a set kind for each difficulty? Referring to this chart: http://i.imgur.com/vzVgkNj.pngTrying to see if setting up a tracker would be worth it. jebeebus fucked around with this message at 02:05 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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The selectable FFX relic on Crystal Tower is Yuna BSB2, and the XI one is Prishe BSB. Otherwise it's as expected, I believe
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My pull got me Matoya's SSB (dupe) and Vanille's USB. Game keeps throwing 6* healer relics at me, man. I'd love a mage stick. I'll probably get Larsa's BSB, but I'll sit on it for a little bit in case I decide to go Fujin/Yuna/CoD.
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Any thoughts on Fujin's BSB? Does it still hold up? Otherwise, gonna pass on this one. Everything else I either have or am not interested in.
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I did the Crystal tower draw, got Seph's SSB (+dark armor), Reynn's SSB (+lightning armor), and Vayne's BSB (+dark fist). I mean.... that is okay, just surprising to get all this plus element stuff. I"m debating on Fujin since I have her en-wind SSB and unique, or Larsa for my first real astra. If I can beat the XI torment without Larsa I will go for Fujin.
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Guess I might as well pull on this banner for the shot at a free choice of a BSB. I wonder what kind of crap I'll get.... Cloud USB  k
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After going 1/11 5* on all the fest banners I dared pull on I wan't sure what to expect from the crystal tower. 2/11 6* . . . Which was yet another dupe holy sword osb and . . . Zach's chain!
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HPanda posted:Any thoughts on Fujin's BSB? Does it still hold up? Fujin BSB is still good especially for mage teams. She gets slightly less relevant as other Ninjas get doublecasts, but she's still a solid source of Wind damage (especially if you get her SSB/LMR on the next VIII event).
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Ooh, Yuna BSB2? That's a surprise. Not sure if I want to go for the BSB2 for the MAG/MND buff and holy+ armor, Y'shtola for a good BSB and an XIV Medica for fututre Torment, or Larsa for the Astra. Anyways, 3/11. Dupe Shelke BSB, Nabaat SSB, Tellah SSB. Happiest about Tellah SSB actually - it's just a Ramza SSB-lite that just has a more common buff, so using it with non-Onion BSB Mage Shouts is a nice option for Magicite. pichupal fucked around with this message at 02:28 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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1/11, dupe Raines fist  Far from the worst kinda dupe to get but I just wanted something new. Probably gonna pick CoD or Larsa’s burst, if my wind team wasn’t already doing good I’d be tempted by Fujin’s.
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HPanda posted:Any thoughts on Fujin's BSB? Does it still hold up? The magic debuff looks pretty tempting for me. I'm torn between that or Sarah's Light Robe. On one hand, I plan on doing the FFI Torment when it eventually happens, and I want to be prepared. There aren't a lot of FFI gear opportunities, and my synergy is bad. I don't have a healing burst with Magic Blink on it, and it would be a handy thing to have anyway. On the other hand, Fujin is cool and would complete my team of rad FF8 lady mages. But I have tons of wind damage and tons of FF8 synergy already. My pull got me Dupe/11 Rikku BSB. Bleh.
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Ok. This last pull was an excellent finisher. Steeeeeeeeelllly blade. And stragos bsb with the only magic piercing command I'm aware of
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