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Nakar posted:King admits there are whole books he does not remember writing, and he directed Maximum Overdrive and only barely recalls being unfathomably incompetent at that, so honestly he was probably less frightening in the 70s. I don't know how much cocaine it takes to completely forget that you wrote an entire novel, but I'm going to assume it's more than young scrappy hobo King could afford before his books blew up. You can definitely tell It was written in a fugue state. It's still a great book, but every page rambles ceaselessly about every single detail King could throw into his typewriter.
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It might well also be because he's written fuckloads of books, wouldn't be surprising if some get forgotten or blur together after a while.
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Inescapable Duck posted:It might well also be because he's written fuckloads of books, wouldn't be surprising if some get forgotten or blur together after a while. EDIT: He also wrote The Running Man in three days. That book is over 300 pages long. Cocaine probably helped with this. Nakar has a new favorite as of 18:08 on Sep 28, 2017 |
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TenCentFang posted:I was actually going to say "Sharknado and Pride and Prejudice and Zombies", but my OCD really gave me fits over all the and's. Sharknado & Pride & Prejudice & Zombies Somebody in Brooklyn or West Hollywood is already wearing this T-shirt, I betcha.
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He wrote all the Bachman-books pre-fame and broke as gently caress. Hell, he wrote The Long Walk as a freshman in college, and that's a 200+ page book that's probably his best work.
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Wow. I've read this entire thread over the last week and it's been one hell of a ride. That said, I'm a little amazed (and more relieved) that no one has brought up The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi. I received this book a couple of years ago from my wife as a birthday gift along with several other Kindle books. It was new science fiction, had won a ton of awards, had good reviews on Amazon. I got halfway through it's interminable 480 pages when I realized that there was not one single character that I didn't hate. Which is a shame because the writing wasn't that bad and actually reminded me of Count Zero in terms of setting and interweaving narratives. And let's not forget the rape! One of the main characters (the titular windup girl) is a genetically engineered human who was a secretary/fucktoy for a Japanese businessman who got thrown away when a newer model came out. She gets bought by a Thai pimp and raped repeatedly and in nauseating detail throughout the book. Perhaps the worst part is that they continually refer to her obedience to her owners as "dog-like" when they're abusing her, because she literally has dog DNA in her to make her servile. She's also seen as less than human because she's bioengineered. Hooray! After all this glowing praise for writing a "mature" sci-fi book on his first outing, what did the author do next? Why, begin writing YA books in the same universe, of course!
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Similarly Shaun Ryder, great poet and frontman for the Happy Mondays, has literally no memories from about 1990 to 2006. 16 years of his life are just a void to him.
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Is there like a "Greatest Hits" of awful passages from bad books? Whenever anyone has a couple of paragraphs I get unreasonably excited
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Here's a famously awful passage (that was new to me). It's a photograph of a page in a book, but linked for NSFW text, just in case. http://i.imgur.com/I4ZrJ91.jpg
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Oct 3, 2017 15:48
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They've been published in an anthology entitled Ready Player One.
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dyingassassin posted:Wow. I've read this entire thread over the last week and it's been one hell of a ride. That said, I'm a little amazed (and more relieved) that no one has brought up The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi. Oh man I forgot about that book. It wasn't half bad, but the gross sex stuff was pretty awful yeah.
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Agents are GO! posted:They've been published in an anthology entitled Ready Player One. You know, an anthology set in the world of RPO would actually probably be pretty good - better than the quest of the worlds' most insufferable virgin to become Paul Muad'dork.
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Mister Mind posted:Sharknado &
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I know this isn't the thread for this but I've never understood the X & X & X shirts at all. Where did they come from? Why do people keep purchasing them in ever more esoteric variants? Blame the Dutch! 
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food court bailiff posted:You know, an anthology set in the world of RPO would actually probably be pretty good - better than the quest of the worlds' most insufferable virgin to become Paul Muad'dork. Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting.
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there wolf posted:Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting. A thousand gorillas with typewriters...
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there wolf posted:Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting. Lights Out: Gorilla (Fiction Set In The World Of) RPO
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there wolf posted:Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting. The writers of the gorillla fanfic may find themselves ostrich-sized.
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Never have I been more delighted by a typo.
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dyingassassin posted:Wow. I've read this entire thread over the last week and it's been one hell of a ride. That said, I'm a little amazed (and more relieved) that no one has brought up The Windup Girl by Paolo Bacigalupi. I liked The Windup Girl but got a little weirded out when one of the characters in Shipbreaker was a genetically engineered furry dogman soldier, who's also the main character of the sequel. Dude has a weird preoccupation. Shipbreaker was annoying for other reasons. You set up these big listing hulks with all their hidden corners and secrets, you put it in the title, and then you abandon the shipyard for a generic YA adventure after the setup? 
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Brass Key posted:I liked The Windup Girl but got a little weirded out when one of the characters in Shipbreaker was a genetically engineered furry dogman soldier, who's also the main character of the sequel. Dude has a weird preoccupation. The guy's got some problems with his writing, for sure. The setting of Windup Girl is great but I was really frustrated by the fact that there wasn't a single character that wasn't deeply flawed in some way. It's hard to root for people you hate. I couldn't even get into horror movie mindset of "let's watch these people gently caress up" because the story didn't go anywhere. I'd have stopped reading halfway through except I paid for it. It was the most wasted potential I'd ever seen in a book which is why I felt like it deserves a spot in this thread.
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I was frustrated that none of the fictional characters were the kind of people I want as friends
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I got a lamps shitpost yesss
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dyingassassin posted:I got a lamps shitpost yesss He has a point
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The Vosgian Beast posted:He has a point Or maybe dyingassassin is just a Philistine, and the sci-fi rape geisha book is actually 2008's Crime and Punishment. Sham bam bamina! has a new favorite as of 22:26 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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I don't think it's that dumb of an idea that people are gong to have different tolerance levels for stories about horrible people doing bad things and being miserable about it. I gave up on Windup Girl probably for similar reasons as dyingassasin; it was a bunch of characters I didn't like and there was nothing about the plot that made me want to see where the story went. It's not that protagonists can't be lovely, but they or the plot have to be in some way compelling even if it's just a dark "let's see where this trainwreck goes" interest.
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My favourite unlikable character is Benvenuto Cellini.
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:My favourite unlikable character is Benvenuto Cellini. Like, are you hoping that someone says theirs is you, or....
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While I wouldn't put Triburbia alongside other terrible books in this thread, I did hate most of the main characters in it, and that made it tough to get through because it's hard to care about whether a rich rear end in a top hat feels self-actualized or not. The one character whose story I enjoyed reading the most was mafia don's, because despite him committing actual crimes, he was the most likable person. So yeah I get not enjoying a book because you don't like the characters. For me at least, it wasn't a case of "oh I don't like this person" it was a case of "it is aggravating to listen to this person's internal conflict."
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Oxxidation posted:today i learned
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Pastry of the Year posted:today i learned Linebroken Instagram Posts are Absolutely Poetry What do you Mean - Pastry of the Year (poorly drawn line image of a phone with flowers coming out of the screen) ❤ 10,028,872 likes Seriously though, I picked up Milk and Honey in a bookstore to see what people were raving about and was very confused. Maybe I'm just getting old and don't understand what the kids of today like, which is apparently insipid rhythmless poetry easily shareable on social media. Brass Key has a new favorite as of 03:53 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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The only metric I have for the quality of instagram poetry is Colin Yost, and Rupi Kaur can occasionally write an evocative image and an attempt at meter, so she's already ahead of the curve there. Still a lot of the poems reminded me of back when The Triumphant analyzed poetry from the TV Tropes forums
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there wolf posted:Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting. So like the Malatora thread?
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Oxxidation posted:today i learned about rupi kaur and i wish i hadn't Ah, the Rupaiyat. I on the other hand discovered Edwin Arlington Robinson, and I think I got the better end of the deal.
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Djeser posted:The only metric I have for the quality of instagram poetry is Colin Yost, and Rupi Kaur can occasionally write an evocative image and an attempt at meter, so she's already ahead of the curve there. quote:
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there wolf posted:Honestly a gorilla fanfic campaign where a bunch of people write stories to improve, flesh out, or deconstruct the world of a specific novel that then all get packaged into an anthlogy, could be kind of interesting. This is what delights and infuriates me about crap books/films/whatever. You get an idea like RPO and it is done so, so terribly. But it gives you a little spark of insight and inspiration because it COULD be the bedrock for some really fascinating fiction.
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