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Heck Yes! Loam! posted:Okay, maybe 25%-30%, but you do it A LOT. 1: Still nope. 2: I love how you're trying to turn this around on me, as if I'm the problem.
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Maybe he does it a lot because connected, affluent white people on twitter really loving love to ignore POC to their left, often to a  degree as was presented here.
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majorian... stop this!!! stop!!! bad boy
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Majorian posted:1: Still nope. 1. maybe its just the posts that I see, but i still feel like this is a behavior that you do, and i find it weird. 2. Por que no los dos?
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The first step to joining the Bernard Brotherhood is silencing a woman or POC on twitter. Saw it on MSNBC this morning, makes me sick.
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Majorian posted:Wherein Clintonistas erase more black leftists: i enlarged and read these and don't know why anyone cares-- am I reading Twitter celebrities I should have heard of? I mean reading random tweets is good enough for 2009 CNN, I guess.
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yronic heroism posted:i enlarged and read these and don't know why anyone cares-- am I reading Twitter celebrities I should have heard of? I mean reading random tweets is good enough for 2009 CNN, I guess. Gray herself wrote about why this is an important thing to talk about in Current Affairs last month: quote:the “bro” stereotype entirely erased the perspectives of countless women and people of color who did not share the center-left political position. The “Bernie Bro” mythology—that progressives are almost exclusively white, male, and young—will not die, no matter how often women and people of color try to speak up to disprove it. In all the words spilled about the uninterrupted whiteness of Sanders supporters, prominent “Bros” like Rosario Dawson, Ben Jealous, Pramila Jayapal, Eddie Glaude, Spike Lee, Killer Mike, Cornel West, and Nina Turner went largely unmentioned. Hillary supporters were appalled that leftists challenged civil rights hero John Lewis’s commitment to Clinton, but it seems civil rights legend Harry Belafonte was considered less sacrosanct—his endorsement of Bernie Sanders was whited-out of the public discourse along with the perspectives of Michelle Alexander and Ta-Nehisi Coates—both of whom are generally considered among the most respected liberal thought leaders. One of the most powerful pro-Black Lives Matter messages heard during the entire campaign was a Sanders video featuring Erica Garner talking about her father, but Garner was an inconvenient figure for the narrative. As black progressive Leslie Lee III said in March 2016: quote:Twitter has been an especially revealing host forum to this ugly friction between identity and ideology: there, unapologetically leftist people of color and women are routinely shouted down, called race traitors, self-hating women, or, incredibly, are accused of being white—even by people with white-presenting avatars. Twitter is where you can find a liberal Democrat referring to Our Revolution president Nina Turner as “Bernie’s Omarosa.” It’s disorienting to see white (and black) liberals calling leftists of color sellouts, Uncle Toms, “coons,” house-slaves, and well, white people, all in the name of anti-racism. But the Bernie Bro framework tells us that all the racists are at the fringes of the political spectrum, while the middle remains pure. Progressive women or leftists of color therefore present a kind of glitch in the matrix. The solution? Deny our existence. Leftists of color are regularly told—by white liberals!—that we are white and/or secretly racist. And while stories about the sexism Clinton supporters faced online are familiar, the racism and sexism directed by the center against the left are ignored. Purported anti-racist Democrats stayed largely silent as an Islamophobic smear campaign was waged against progressive black Muslim Representative Keith Ellison, one of the ugliest instances of bigotry to come out of the Democratic Party in recent history.
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yronic heroism posted:guess I need to know the twitter handles of current affairs writers now Or you could simply Google them. That's a good way to find basic information about things. 
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Google @bendtheknee69neoliberaldinguses to make sure they're not a current affairs writer, got it.
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Don't have yuge hands or you keep hitting quote instead of edit yronic heroism fucked around with this message at 00:08 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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yronic heroism posted:Google @bendtheknee69neoliberaldinguses to make sure they're not a current affairs writer, got it. a post that sucked so much you had to make it twice
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Condiv posted:a post that sucked so much you had to make it twice Three times actually. I've got bad news for you about your entire post history though.
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Oh Snapple! posted:Maybe he does it a lot because connected, affluent white people on twitter really loving love to ignore POC to their left, often to a I can't believe that the people who nominated and supported a literal slaveowner for president would have issues with race. Almost like.....they're the real racists all along 
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C. Everett Koop posted:I can't believe that the people who nominated and supported a literal slaveowner for president would have issues with race. Hillary owned slaves?!?
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C. Everett Koop posted:I can't believe that the people who nominated and supported a literal slaveowner for president would have issues with race. Democrats are the real racists lol
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JeffersonClay posted:Democrats are the real racists lol *reads your title* Well, some certainly are.
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Im not sure it's a great idea to relitigate people's post history in this thread but it's your life friend.
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I mean, what am I supposed to do when you leave yourself open like that, JC? (also I don't think I've ever defended slavery or sweatshops, so...)
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C. Everett Koop posted:I can't believe that the people who nominated and supported a literal slaveowner for president would have issues with race. Oh this nonsense again
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Nevvy Z posted:Oh this nonsense again She didn't own them, they came with the house.
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More slaver than slaveowner, tbh
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And she only accepted the slaves because she was selflessly motivated to reduce the state budget deficit.
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God forbid we give prisoners valuable work experience while they pay their debt to society.
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Nevvy Z posted:God forbid we give prisoners valuable work experience while they pay their debt to society. It's just as well that the justice system can be trusted to be fair and proportionate, especially involving the most vulnerable members of society and historically oppressed minorities.
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They're better off here, working the fields, than back in their heathen indolent African villages.
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Nah, this is actual slavery. https://www.revealnews.org/article/they-thought-they-were-going-to-rehab-they-ended-up-in-chicken-plants/ Hillary was just dumb and lacked any amount of empathy.
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Nevvy Z posted:God forbid we give slaves valuable work experience while they pay their debt to their masters.
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Also unpaid internships are great because they give kids valuable work experience as they learn to be members of society.
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Just lol if you are more worried about constitutional slavery than unconstitutional slavery.
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Is there some kind of bad dem signal that gets lit up the moment somebody points out that centrists are prone to horrible racism that summons you lot to try denying and whataboutizing it away?
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Cerebral Bore posted:Is there some kind of bad dem signal that gets lit up the moment somebody points out that centrists are prone to horrible racism that summons you lot to try denying and whataboutizing it away? I dunno, no one's really pointed out any horrible racism in this thread recently, just one random white woman being slightly insensitive on twitter while talking to black friends who were saying things she agreed with about fake twitter users. Specifically "you can tell some of these weren't written by black people." What a horrible racist. Harold Fjord fucked around with this message at 14:48 on Oct 5, 2017 |
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Nevvy Z posted:Just lol if you are more worried about constitutional slavery than unconstitutional slavery. lol if you get pedantic about types of slavery and only care about some forms enough to vote for a literal slaveowner in 2016 Nevvy Z posted:I dunno, no one's really pointed out any horrible racism in this thread recently, just one random white woman being slightly insensitive on twitter while talking to black friends who were saying things she agreed with about fake twitter users. of course not because the liberals learned their lesson last thread and don't try to claim things like "black people cost Hillary the election because the men are sexist"
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the people who make use of prison labor are way more willing to hire current prisoners than they ever are to hire ex-cons. california's prison fire brigades make the "valuable work experience!!" excuse too, and then refuse to hire ex-cons as firefighters
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Cerebral Bore posted:Is there some kind of bad dem signal that gets lit up the moment somebody points out that centrists are prone to horrible racism that summons you lot to try denying and whataboutizing it away? I think it's more that when leftists post attacks on democrats that are indistinguishable from Sean Hannity rants, people queue up to mock them. "The people who nominated and supported Hillary Clinton are the real racists!!!" So, uh, Bernie sanders and every non-idiot leftist is a racist?
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NewForumSoftware posted:lol if you get pedantic about types of slavery and only care about some forms enough to vote for a literal slaveowner in 2016 "constitutionality is pedantry"
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Condiv posted:the people who make use of prison labor are way more willing to hire current prisoners than they ever are to hire ex-cons. california's prison fire brigades make the "valuable work experience!!" excuse too, and then refuse to hire ex-cons as firefighters I wanted to respond to this issue as it is something I actually know something about. My brother in law is a fire captain in california. he manages teams that consist of volunteers, career firemen, and prisoners. He is a pretty non political guy, so he doesn't subscribe to republican or democrat ideologies at all. He just wants to live in the mountains and be one with nature. His opinion of the use of prison labor for firefighting is very mixed. on one hand he would rather those jobs go to career men and women, and have them get paid well. The problem is that firefighters don't get paid well enough, the risk is really high, and the state doesn't ever increase their budgets despite the severe increase in fires year over year. Without the prisoner labor, the west would burn far worse than it did this summer. Most of the prisoners that get to work fire detail are not high risk people. most are in for drug crimes, theft, or other non violent acts. The program is not mandatory and every prisoner wants to be there. Ultimately it is not a simple "all prison labor is bad" as a good number of those people have a place to go work after they get out. and, as it turns out it is the number one way firefighters in some areas get new recruits. so your point about ex cons not getting hired is not exactly true. I don't think it is a good system, and I would rather the budgets for fire departments were tripled or quadrupled in order to high non prisoners, but don't dismiss the value of such a program if it is managed properly. The potential for abuse in prison labor is really high, but it doesnt mean there arent good prison labor jobs out there that actual prisoners would rather do than not. Ideally we wipe out the prisoner population by ending drug crime laws, and make it so critical state jobs are filled by career people who get paid a solid wage. Until then, don't act like all prison labor is slavery.
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