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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Greetings, friends.

It has come to my attention that there are a lot of bad posts in the Debate and Discussion forum, most of them relating to politics in the United States and specific political figures from that country. We have had several threads dedicated to more specific discussion, because a broad US politics thread inevitably descends into slapfights over various election results, or worse, individual posters.

I am tired of reading these posts. You probably are, as well.

Which is why I'm stealing an idea.

logikv9 posted:

I've said it before and I'll say it again: political deathmatch thread where trump, clinton, and sanders posters post and any political ranting outside the thread gets a probe

:siren: Welcome to the thunderdome, fuckers! :siren:

Here are the rules:

1. Posting is strictly limited to the topic of politicians in the United States of America and why certain politicians, or groups of them representing various ideologies, are good or bad.
2. This includes the current President of the United States, Donald J. "Deals" Trump. You can say the president is good here. Don't be surprised if you are mocked roundly for it.
3. Outright bigotry and fascism remain punishable. What constitutes this is up to moderator discretion.
4. This isn't a Helldump thread and shouldn't be used to litigate post histories or spread personal information. Your rear end is banned if it happens. But it is OK to make fun of people for posts in this thread.
5. The report function should be used for posts in this thread. This is not Hamsterdam for D&D. However! High-stakes posting means high-stakes modding. Relaxing some of the rules for this thread means that when I get reports or see dumb poo poo happening, punishment will be much, much worse. The minimum probation is one week. If posts get particularly bad, this minimum might change. Be warned!!!!

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R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Reserved for photos of Stalin.

Baiku
Oct 25, 2011

He's getting 8 years.

There's nothing you can do about it.

Sorus
Nov 6, 2007
caustic overtones
How do you figure? Rich white dudes don't go to jail.

Pembroke Fuse
Dec 29, 2008
This is going to suuuuuuuuuuck...

Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
What if Bernie won the primary but lost the general election?

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

Pembroke Fuse posted:

This is going to suuuuuuuuuuck...

it might. we'll see

Sorus
Nov 6, 2007
caustic overtones

Star Man posted:

What if Bernie won the primary but lost the general election?

O'Malley would have won.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Sorus posted:

O'Malley would have won.

Mike O'Malley is the blue collar candidate we need.

MoaM
Dec 1, 2009

Joyous.
Why does everyone have to care about this bad president so intently? Do everything you can to legally oppose his bad policies and refrain from the ad-hominem, I say. The more we care about Drump doing Drump things the more we allow low-hanging fruit to the usually-awful-idiots to distract from how awful they are! Maybe I think social wellfare should be cut, but I'm not as bad as DRUMP who wants to ban the transgenders and can't spell things properly on twitter and is hilariously fat!

I hope this mini-rant makes sense to someone! Also! I don't meet my own expectations of how to discuss Trump!

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

Nanomashoes
Aug 18, 2012

https://medium.com/@michaelvoit_91722/why-i-am-centrist-scum-7e786daa76ba

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000
If the Democrats don't get their poo poo together and embrace socialism they're going to fully clear the way for full-on fascism of the unironic Nazi variety, just in time for climate change to wipe out human civilization on the planet Earth. And I'll be glad for it, because I'd rather be murdered by Nazis than have Hillary Clinton's smug loving face at another book signing talking about how all this poo poo is my fault.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

The fantasy that politics begins and ends at the voting both is still one of the most successful methods of crippling the left.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



Chilichimp
Oct 24, 2006

TIE Adv xWampa

It wamp, and it stomp

Grimey Drawer

Yeah, I'm certain this is a bad post.

Check it out, though, gently caress Donald Trump.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Kilroy posted:

If the Democrats don't get their poo poo together and embrace socialism they're going to fully clear the way for full-on fascism of the unironic Nazi variety, just in time for climate change to wipe out human civilization on the planet Earth. And I'll be glad for it, because I'd rather be murdered by Nazis than have Hillary Clinton's smug loving face at another book signing talking about how all this poo poo is my fault.

What an embarrassing post.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Baiku posted:

He's getting 8 years.

There's nothing you can do about it.

8 years? Trump is eternal. He is forever president.

theCalamity
Oct 23, 2010
Probation
Can't post for 9 hours!
Is it alright to post this here:

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/amp/poll-democrats-can-t-take-millennial-vote-granted-n804836

quote:

Just 43 percent of millennials have a favorable view of the Democratic Party, and only a slight majority (53 percent) said the party cares about people like them.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Hmmm, I see...*doubles down on recruiting white Republican Never-Trumpers from the suburbs*

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

MoaM posted:

refrain from the ad-hominem, I say.

hear hear!

Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


assuming this is real, what the hell is the hrc doing?

https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/913426492348014592

Condiv fucked around with this message at 18:51 on Sep 28, 2017

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Condiv posted:

assuming this is real, what the hell is the hrc doing?

i know right, these reboots are getting out of control

The Glumslinger
Sep 24, 2008

Coach Nagy, you want me to throw to WHAT side of the field?


Hair Elf
https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/913466992048340992


Something, something, centrism works folks :v:

(Yes, I'm aware that Biden has huge popularity because lots of people think Onion Joe Biden is real, I just thought this was funny)

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

The Glumslinger posted:

(Yes, I'm aware that Biden has huge popularity because lots of people think Onion Joe Biden is real, I just thought this was funny)
It's difficult for centrists to credibly champion the things that people want because they've opposed all that poo poo at some point in their political career. Joe Biden is no exception no matter how many Onion articles get written about him. No one is going to believe Biden if he says he's in favor of single payer, or banning private prisons, etc.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Condiv posted:

assuming this is real, what the hell is the hrc doing?

https://twitter.com/jackallisonLOL/status/913426492348014592

Is anybody on earth awaiting the return of will and grace?

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

The Glumslinger posted:

https://twitter.com/ppppolls/status/913466992048340992


Something, something, centrism works folks :v:

(Yes, I'm aware that Biden has huge popularity because lots of people think Onion Joe Biden is real, I just thought this was funny)

people trust cnn more than espn??? thats a little hosed up

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Kilroy posted:

It's difficult for centrists to credibly champion the things that people want because they've opposed all that poo poo at some point in their political career. Joe Biden is no exception no matter how many Onion articles get written about him. No one is going to believe Biden if he says he's in favor of single payer, or banning private prisons, etc.

People will believe Biden wants single payer in the same way people believe Trump doesn't want people to die on the street.

I think you underestimate how willing people are to believe bullshit they want to hear.

Kilroy
Oct 1, 2000

Trabisnikof posted:

I think you underestimate how willing people are to believe bullshit they want to hear.
Republicans / Russians / whoever will spin up a bunch of bullshit concern trolling outfits and saturate social media with a bunch of stories about how Biden is full of poo poo. The propaganda will be effective because it's not exactly wrong. The media will pick up on it as well.

Like seriously this is exactly what happened with Clinton why do you think it will be any different next time?

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Kilroy posted:

Republicans / Russians / whoever will spin up a bunch of bullshit concern trolling outfits and saturate social media with a bunch of stories about how Biden is full of poo poo. The propaganda will be effective because it's not exactly wrong. The media will pick up on it as well.

Like seriously this is exactly what happened with Clinton why do you think it will be any different next time?

That can still happen and you'll still have people who've identified with Biden saying he's the greatest thing since the Trans Am. Same way you have people arguing Hillary was Perfect still, after she lost.

The media can't make those people change their minds anymore than the media can convince a Trump voter that actually Trump doesn't mind if you die in the street.

Koalas March
May 21, 2007



OwlFancier posted:

Is anybody on earth awaiting the return of will and grace?

My grandmother lol and some sad old gays on the gossip forums I peruse.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Koalas March posted:

My grandmother lol and some sad old gays on the gossip forums I peruse.

I mean I guess it would be interesting to see how people react to it nowadays, I feel like it might be in slightly poor taste.

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Baiku posted:

He's getting 8 years.

There's nothing you can do about it.

Well I think some of them can vote.

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001
it's still loving insane that americans have people trying to conjure up some fantasy where you guys getting public healthcare is bad lol

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Inverted Offensive Battle: Acupuncture Attacks Convert To 3D Penetration Tactics Taking Advantage of Deep Battle Opportunities

Dreylad posted:

it's still loving insane that americans have people trying to conjure up some fantasy where you guys getting public healthcare is bad lol

It's even more nauseating that a lot of self-described Democrats put so much energy into doing exactly this.

(e: to preemptively clarify, I'm talking more about people who just concern troll every proposed solution to the problem, not people who think there are better routes to public healthcare than single payer)

Majorian fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Sep 28, 2017

Freakazoid_
Jul 5, 2013


Buglord
Bernie Sanders is a good politician. He wants the socialism, like UHC, $15 minimum and ending the prohibition of weed. His messaging toward people of color wasn't good but I hope he fixes that the next time he runs for president.

I think he can be convinced to support a basic income, too. I would really like a basic income for everyone.

Calibanibal
Aug 25, 2015

Freakazoid_ posted:

Bernie Sanders is a good politician. He wants the socialism, like UHC, $15 minimum and ending the prohibition of weed. His messaging toward people of color wasn't good but I hope he fixes that the next time he runs for president.

I think he can be convinced to support a basic income, too. I would really like a basic income for everyone.

wow ok i think we got the first bad post to poo poo all over

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

If Bernie is the best we can do in 2020 we are so hosed.

Mr Hootington
Jul 24, 2008

Donald J. Trump is the greatest father to have ever been President.

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Condiv
May 7, 2008

Sorry to undo the effort of paying a domestic abuser $10 to own this poster, but I am going to lose my dang mind if I keep seeing multiple posters who appear to be Baloogan.

With love,
a mod


Trabisnikof posted:

If Bernie is the best we can do in 2020 we are so hosed.

i dunno. bernie/ellison would be a really good ticket

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