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exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
https://twitter.com/ayocaesar/status/915543492977455104

Frijolero posted:

https://twitter.com/jeremycorbyn/status/915645208141881344

Corbyn's mum punched loving Nazis and you should too.

THE ETERNAL BOY!!!

papi

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hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel
ya did she really not figure wearing a frida kahlo bracelet would incur some kind of commie santeria curse

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Practically nobody knows Frida Kahlo was a communist. Not even her boring fans know she was a communist.

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009

i didnt know she was a communist and shes a national icon here

thought i guess that kinda explains why i didnt know

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.
my fave bit of frida trivia is that she painted this after having an affair w/ trotsky

Zeroisanumber
Oct 23, 2010

Nap Ghost

babypolis posted:

i didnt know she was a communist and shes a national icon here

thought i guess that kinda explains why i didnt know

She literally hosed Leon Trotsky and people don't know that she's a communist?

That's some high-test historical whitewashing.

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

Zeroisanumber posted:

She literally hosed Leon Trotsky and people don't know that she's a communist?

That's some high-test historical whitewashing.

Every communist or socialist considered cool by history has had their political backgrounds completely whitewashed. Very few people know Picasso was a communist, or that Helen Keller was a socialist radical - unless of course they're already sympathetic to left wing politics and hear about it from that circle. This has also been done for Fascists that people want to be able to enjoy like Dali, or really any other reactionary or "unwoke" historical hero. Their real world lives are all too inconvenient for the commodified abstractions of their legacy.

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
More important than the Frida bracelet or the coughing was the fact that she basically lifted Ed Miliband's manifesto wholesale and the Tory conference applauded her for it. I have never seen the Overton window shift so far so fast.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
https://twitter.com/MPritchardUK/st...e-politics-live

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

tarbrush posted:

More important than the Frida bracelet or the coughing was the fact that she basically lifted Ed Miliband's manifesto wholesale and the Tory conference applauded her for it. I have never seen the Overton window shift so far so fast.

yeah its kind of amazing

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...s-a7983191.html

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
This is a good article about the change imo https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/oct/05/labour-opportunities-tories-radical-change-corbyn-marxist-throwback

basically it was likely to come anyway since things are so poo poo for most people and these big changes have happened before when things were poo poo for people. Brexit winning though has crippled the tory party and meant that Cameron is no longer PM with there being no replacement who isn't really poo poo

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

tarbrush posted:

More important than the Frida bracelet or the coughing was the fact that she basically lifted Ed Miliband's manifesto wholesale and the Tory conference applauded her for it. I have never seen the Overton window shift so far so fast.

Well, this is like the third u-turn about energy price caps, so we'll see if it lasts. It is funny seeing Ed Miliband get sarky about it on Twitter though.

UrbicaMortis has issued a correction as of 12:00 on Oct 5, 2017

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
I fully expect they won't do most of it because they're a shambles of a party and most of it is massively un-Tory, it's just the fact that they're even talking about it.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

tories bad?

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




yo guvnas

check in w the discord if you want to ensure you can keep talking together in a cspam milieu eleven if the forums continue falling apart randomly

https://discord.gg/3qVrHJE

you can even set up a brit home 4 limeys w/in the discord, alongside the general chat, book club, nite crew, and day crew things

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out
Crossposting from UKMT


quote:

According to the Financial Times’ Chris Giles (paywall) Philip Hammond, the chancellor, is “facing what officials describe as ‘a bloodbath’ in the public finances in his Budget next month as weak economic forecasts derail the government’s plans. Giles says: 

As much as two-thirds of the £26bn of headroom in the public finances that the chancellor created last year as a buffer for the economy through the Brexit period is likely to be wiped out after the government’s fiscal watchdog concludes its forecasts for growth have been too optimistic.

The Office for Budget Responsibility will publish on Tuesday a new analysis suggesting it has persistently over-estimated Britain’s productivity over the past seven years and will give a broad hint that it will rectify the situation with a more pessimistic Budget forecast.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Gum posted:

Crossposting from UKMT

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO
It's almost like chronically underinvesting in housing, infrastructure and education had consequences...

babypolis
Nov 4, 2009


holy poo poo those forecasts

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them


someone photoshop this im lazy tnx

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
lmao

rudatron
May 31, 2011

by Fluffdaddy
That graph is what happens when ideology meets reality.

The neolibs were so convinced that privatizing everything/defunding everything/starve the beast would create a magical exponential growth process, once The Full Power Of The Free Market has been unleashed (and no more red tape!!)

but whoops, turns out that's all bullshit, everything but finance has been suffocating to death, and now brexit is going to kneecap that too

it's too loving funny

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

Note: the Tories came into power in May 2010

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013


Stabbatical
Sep 15, 2011

seen in UKMT
US rounds on Britain over food quotas as post-Brexit trade woes deepen

quote:

In a fast-developing second trade spat, Washington has teamed up with Brazil, Argentina, Canada, New Zealand, Uruguay and Thailand to reject Britain’s proposed import arrangements for crucial agricultural goods such as meat, sugar and grains after Brexit. The fact that the U.K.’s opponents include the U.S., Canada and New Zealand is a significant setback because Britain is trying to style its former colonies as natural strategic and commercial allies after it has quit the EU.

lol

I met a few Leavers at the time saying that we'd start basically a new EU of Commonwealth countries & the US and it's good to see them be exceedingly owned by real life (even if it means I and everyone else here starves to death)

Gum
Mar 9, 2008

oho, a rapist
time to try this puppy out

quote:

Britain is trying to style its former colonies as natural strategic and commercial allies

But it was such a convincing argument!

Frijolero
Jan 24, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo

Stabbatical posted:

seen in UKMT
US rounds on Britain over food quotas as post-Brexit trade woes deepen


lol

I met a few Leavers at the time saying that we'd start basically a new EU of Commonwealth countries & the US and it's good to see them be exceedingly owned by real life (even if it means I and everyone else here starves to death)

LOL

Am I correct in understanding that the UK and EU didn't bother consulting with those countries and just wanted to transfer some EU arrangement onto the UK? Then everyone else said, "gently caress off" ?

Fallen Hamprince
Nov 12, 2016

bump_fn posted:



someone photoshop this im lazy tnx

there's a way better intel graph for this

tarbrush
Feb 7, 2011

ALL ABOARD THE SCOTLAND HYPE TRAIN!

CHOO CHOO

Frijolero posted:

LOL

Am I correct in understanding that the UK and EU didn't bother consulting with those countries and just wanted to transfer some EU arrangement onto the UK? Then everyone else said, "gently caress off" ?

Eh. Basically they negotiated with each other to split their own TRQs fairly sensibly (in rare competent Brexit news). Issue is that literally the entire WTO can veto the arrangements, and a bunch of countries are taking the opportunity to demand bribes in exchange for not loving us over.

As could have been and was predicted by anyone who understood trade and no one in the Leave campaigns.

The US joining the pile on looks bad publicly, but was basically inevitable, because a lot of the TRQs are agriculture based, and the US has a large and powerful farm lobby.

What's more amusing is that the other lot demanding their pound of flesh are the kiwis and aussies, who are also our best buds according to Brexiters.

UrbicaMortis
Feb 16, 2012

Hmm, how shall I post today?

I'm starting to think that, despite how much they talk about them, most brexiteers don't actually know anything about trade deals.

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

UrbicaMortis posted:

I'm starting to think that, despite how much they talk about them, most brexiteers don't actually know anything about trade deals.

hosed up if true

Pener Kropoopkin
Jan 30, 2013

We should send them Trump and they can give us Corbyn. Trump knows how to make deals.

Jazerus
May 24, 2011


Pener Kropoopkin posted:

We should send them Trump and they can give us Corbyn. Trump knows how to make deals.

boris & donald's excellent adventure

bump_fn
Apr 12, 2004

two of them

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Squizzle posted:

yo guvnas

check in w the discord if you want to ensure you can keep talking together in a cspam milieu eleven if the forums continue falling apart randomly

https://discord.gg/3qVrHJE

you can even set up a brit home 4 limeys w/in the discord, alongside the general chat, book club, nite crew, and day crew things

link has expired :(

hakimashou
Jul 15, 2002
Upset Trowel

Gum posted:

Crossposting from UKMT

Man you guys are hosed

Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




hakimashou posted:

link has expired :(

https://discord.gg/77PknE

Helsing
Aug 23, 2003

DON'T POST IN THE ELECTION THREAD UNLESS YOU :love::love::love: JOE BIDEN

quote:

Conservative donors call for May to stand down over 'bullying' by Johnson

Founder of Pimlico Plumbers says PM is being undermined by foreign secretary, while others say party should emulate Labour’s wide financial support base

Conservative donors have called for Theresa May to stand down because she is being “bullied” by colleagues including Boris Johnson.

Following an ill-fated conference speech and rumours of a backbench plot against the prime minister, two wealthy supporters said the party must act quickly and install another leader.

In a further development, the party is discussing plans to emulate Labour and widen its financial support away from large donations from a select group of wealthy donors to smaller donations from its ordinary members.


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Charlie Mullins, the founder of London-based Pimlico Plumbers, said May must leave because she was being bullied and undermined by Johnson.

He said: “She has got to go for her own sake. It is getting embarrassing. If this was a boxing match, the fight would have been stopped. She has been put in a position where she is being bullied, she is being intimidated, they are making her life hell. These are Conservative people who are destroying this woman and it needs to stop.”

Mullins, who has donated £50,000 and spent £30,000 on a stall at this year’s conference, said the foreign secretary had been successfully undermining the prime minister.

“She is a broken woman. They are setting her up,” he said. “Boris is not a fool. He knows what he is doing. Boris is knocking her at every opportunity he gets because he wants to be prime minister. Boris has been a big part of destroying this woman.”

May has previously posed for photographs with Mullins. She visited the headquarters of his business in south London and met him at a fundraising ball this summer.

Mullins said the party should act before Jeremy Corbyn capitalised on the Tories’ weakness. “If we don’t do something about it, Labour will take over, and we can’t risk that,” he said.

A second donor said May appeared to be too weak to fight the business community’s corner and should leave by Christmas if the party wants to retain financial support from entrepreneurs.

The businessman, who has given more than £300,000 in total, said: “[The party] is losing support in the City. People worry that the Tories are taking us over a Brexit cliff edge and May looks too weak to control her ministers.

“We need to act now. Whether she is replaced by an old guard member like Michael Fallon or new blood, I am not sure.”

The Conservatives have grown increasingly concerned about the party’s failing support from big donors in the business community.

While the Tories generated £1.5m in membership fees last year, Labour raised £14.4m, according to figures published in August by the Electoral Commission.

One major donor told the Guardian that party officials were now considering plans to emulate Labour’s successful funding model and encourage smaller donations from the wider membership.

John Griffin, the founder of taxi firm Addison Lee who has given more than £4m to the Conservatives, told the Guardian that he has had preliminary talks with party officials about helping to widen financial support from a select few individuals to other less wealthy donors.

“I think the party has performed very poorly in that particular area, so I have a cunning plan and we will be having meetings about that this month. They have underperformed in the area of collecting money,” he said.

“We don’t really want donors to give large sums. We want lots of people to give smaller sums. That is the plan. The Labour party are making a better fist of it. We need to consider that and emulate them.”

Griffin declined to go into further details but said he raised the idea with May at a fundraising dinner at the Dorchester hotel in central London last month. “She supports the idea in principle,” he said.

Griffin, who gave £1m to the party before this year’s election, said he wantedMay to remain as prime minister and called for Johnson to be given a “smacked bum” for undermining her.

“Boris has been a naughty boy and needs a smacked bum. That’s where I stand. He is a nice bloke, but there is a time for everything and he needs a bit more dignity,”
he said. “I have encouraged the prime minister to make sure that these people in the cabinet stand in line and she must exercise her power.”

Breakfast All Day
Oct 21, 2004


loving lol

this may be classic enough to enter the valhalla of itanium.jpg and fusionfunding.jpg

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https://twitter.com/guardian/status/916188828284616704

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