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Numberwang posted:I don't think I can ever watch anything Dan Harmon related again. He's such a creepy, insecure weirdo.
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So, when will Roman Polanski, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen, Harvey Weinstein, Harry Knowles and Joss Whedon team up to create a despicable sex fiend version of the Avengers?
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Oct 5, 2017 23:08
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I don't think Whedon is quite in the same level as those others, tbh. Maybe insert Jimmy Saville as the comedic foreign member.
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Gonz posted:So, when will Roman Polanski, Bill Cosby, Woody Allen, Harvey Weinstein, Harry Knowles and Joss Whedon team up to create a despicable sex fiend version of the Avengers? Seeing all those names like that is bizarre. There’s so much good they’ve done for movies and TV but they’re all terrible loving people. Well, maybe not Whedon. I keep wondering who the next scandal is going to break about and hoping it’s not, like, Bill Murray.
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Escobarbarian posted:I don't think Whedon is quite in the same level as those others, tbh. Maybe insert Jimmy Saville as the comedic foreign member. He's dead, though. Unless they use Altered Beast-style necromancy to cause him to rise from his grave.
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I don't know who Harry Knowles is and I had to look it up to make sure Beyonce's dad wasn't a creeper. I don't usually have a ton of problems separating art from artist. Like, I can watch Roman Polanski films and you'll never make me stop listening to the Ignition Remix. It gets real problematic when the artist IS the art and the horrific reality directly connects with the art. So I'll probably never be able to watch the Cosby Show again. The problem I see with folks like Harmon or Kurt Sutter is that they can't separate their art from themselves. They don't seem content being in the background and feel the need to take a front row seat with all their work, which then means that the poo poo they say and do (as well as the basic insecurity and weirdness of their desperate attempts to be praised) end up reflecting badly on their work. And then guys like that tend to do poo poo like write things in their art to specifically address critics. Like I remember some episode of Community that had some weird joke where the characters just poo poo on some Twitter poster who Harmon was feuding with. It was weird. That and the terrible fanbases that build around them. But we already discussed how the internet has ruined the world.
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lelandjs posted:Well, maybe not Whedon. Whedon's definitely a lovely person. Maybe not rapist lovely but pretty awful.
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I took it to mean Whedon has done nothing good for movies and TV, which is truth
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Oct 5, 2017 23:23
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I still like Angel.
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Lurdiak posted:Whedon's definitely a lovely person. Maybe not rapist lovely but pretty awful. Yes, but he's hardly a serial rapist and paedophile like the rest on that list. I know people here don't like the Avengers or some poo poo but...
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Granted, it's Whedon's ex-wife, but if what she alleges is true about him, then he's a miserable piece of poo poo Hollywood casting couch rear end in a top hat, too.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:42
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I'm certain most males in Whedon's or Weinstein's position would have done the same. Imagine every day you got 100 girls hanging off your dick. Even the most principled will give in and exploit it. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Oct 5, 2017 23:59
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STAC Goat posted:I don't know who Harry Knowles is and I had to look it up to make sure Beyonce's dad wasn't a creeper. One favourite Kurt Sutter moment was his response to people being upset one of the main characters died unceremoniously in the penultimate season: that sure, he'll bring her back next year, with Tig skull loving her corpse or smth Kurt Sutter is a special, hateful kind of trash.
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Mu Zeta posted:I'm certain most males in Whedon's or Weinstein's position would have done the same. Imagine every day you got 100 girls hanging off your dick. Even the most principled will give in and exploit it. 😬
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lol I glossed over that somehow, what the gently caress Zeta
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Whedon called the situation a greek tragedy. He's an rear end in a top hat but he's right too, though he's a bit self important with that statement. Bill Burr explains it in a funnier way. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9onauqdci_g I'm not saying they are good people.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:22
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Whedon is trash for cheating on his wife multiple times over so many years, but as a woman I think it's important we don't ignore the fact that some of the girls he screwed around with surely knew he was married and hosed him anyway. Like yeah, position of power etc and I have no doubt some of those lays were girls who may have felt pressured in some way, but surely not all of them were innocent in this tomfoolery.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:28
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That's why you stay single if you're in that position.
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Probably best not to be too judgmental of people you don't know in positions you will never be in with details you will never actually know the truth of. I mean feel free but understand that's what you're doing. Unless they are a convicted sex offender of course they are open to all judgment
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I just don't like the idea that all of these women are definitely victims of some casting couch situation, just because Whedon is a man. I'm sure it wasn't all sunshine and roses and some young actresses foolishly felt pressured/thought it would get them ahead/that this is how the business works so do it, but women can be trash too. Homewreckers shouldn't get a pass, they're assholes too. Like, we aren't all delicate flowers being victimized by the man at every turn.
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Wandle Cax posted:Probably best not to be too judgmental of people you don't know in positions you will never be in with details you will never actually know the truth of. Also this. Whedon is an rear end for cheating, definitely, but we don't have all the details so until an actress comes forward to say it was more sinister than simple adultery maybe people shouldn't lump him in with Roman Polanski.
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Oct 6, 2017 00:49
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Everyone is going to believe whatever story confirms their preconceived notions about someone, that's just how it is now.
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The sad truth.
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[quote="“esperterra”" post="“477095955”"] I just don’t like the idea that all of these women are definitely victims of some casting couch situation, just because Whedon is a man. I’m sure it wasn’t all sunshine and roses and some young actresses foolishly felt pressured/thought it would get them ahead/that this is how the business works so do it, but women can be trash too. Homewreckers shouldn’t get a pass, they’re assholes too. Like, we aren’t all delicate flowers being victimized by the man at every turn. [/quote] unfortunately this is 2017 where "men are trash" is taken as 100% fact by a vast majority of people, not to mention the people who state it just to get some woke credentials
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Oct 6, 2017 00:53
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Pull up!!!
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Oct 6, 2017 00:55
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Being a woman who doesn't agree with that mindset-- and a gay one at that!-- has been an interesting journey these past few years. Not to generalize, of course. Not all women or gays agree with the more radical mindsets.
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In other news, I started The Deuce and it is excellent.
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Is Get Shorty really not that bad? I liked the movie but figured the show would be poo poo.
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GreenNight posted:Is Get Shorty really not that bad? I liked the movie but figured the show would be poo poo. I liked the first two episodes but then it turns out that I just get a variation of Epix and so it wasn't airing the rest of the series.
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Turn left couch chat! Nooooo
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esperterra posted:In other news, I started The Deuce and it is excellent. It's been a good show thus far, but be prepared to become frustrated with a lot of little things (Vince's opinion/knowledge of working with the Mob vacillates wildly from episode to episode; they are going to make drat sure that you understand that Candy is Tired of the Game; what the gently caress is Abby even doing here?) Infinitely better and more satisfying than Vinyl, at least, and doing a better job of scratching that 70's aesthetic itch.
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To also help right the the thread, thanks so much for people who convinced me to stick with The Expanse for multiple episodes. It definitely took 2-3 for me to really get hooked and I was all in when they got their own ship which people said was a good barometer of if you like it. I'm still only like halfway through season 1 but I know when I get some downtime this weekend I'll quickly burn through another set of episodes.
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So wait, did Harry Knowles do something recently? I thought people had stopped giving even a small percentage of a gently caress about him.
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Rhyno posted:So wait, did Harry Knowles do something recently? I thought people had stopped giving even a small percentage of a gently caress about him. This got uncovered and a big portion of the AICN writers immediately said gently caress it and left the site. Also it recently came out that Harvey Weinstein is a loving turbocreep and Hollywood is in desperate need of an enema.
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Nothing is less surprising than Harry Knowles being a serial sexual harasser
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Vanderdeath posted:This got uncovered and a big portion of the AICN writers immediately said gently caress it and left the site. Also it recently came out that Harvey Weinstein is a loving turbocreep and Hollywood is in desperate need of an enema. Never look up his blade 2 review
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bobkatt013 posted:Never look up his blade 2 review "A warning: BLADE 2 is an R-rated movie. This is the NC-17 Review of it. You have been warned." Uh-oh. "The Audience is the clit." ... FOLKS... (Hey, congrats to AICN for maintaining the same poo poo-rear end web design that I derided in a college class assignment as "painful" in 2002)
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bobkatt013 posted:Never look up his blade 2 review That review was the first and last time I ever visited that loving cesspit of a website.
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