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You Am I posted:So what he's trying to say here is that we need to drown the poor? Boil the ocean away is how I understand it. Then everyone will be better off.
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Postal surveys on human rights for some Tiny Australian flags for others
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Hey senator Davy, I took your picture but scratched out 'minimum wage' and replaced it with 'cost of living'. Oh no! It still makes (as much) sense but now it means the opposite! Oh no!
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Been in Melbourne for 24 hours and have yet to be shot by a cop 7/10
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When I was at QUT people handing out leaflets for leftist candidates would get buckets of spoiled milk thrown on them by guys on rollerblades. I could have gone to JCU where some young libs were ejected for making monkey noises during a presentation by an Aboriginal woman.
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Don Dongington posted:Been in Melbourne for 24 hours and have yet to be shot by a cop
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Intoluene posted:Pretty sure any job that raises revenue less than 15 dollars an hour is either done by machine or done in a sweatshop overseas. Also, I think the ceo can put off buying his third yacht for another year or two. or a 16 year old 'trainee' costing the employer about $4/hour after various government handouts.
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Meanwhile in more Queensland is a poo poo state news: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/oct/05/alarming-rise-in-queensland-tree-clearing-as-400000-hectares-stripped Mowing down trees like it's nothing.
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Finally got around to watching media watch Mack Lè More
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Not 100% sure this is true buuuuuuuuut... https://twitter.com/simonahac/status/915726116001681408
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What is the deal with this Danby fuckwit? Starshark posted:Not 100% sure this is true buuuuuuuuut... That'd be cool if true. Imagine if we had a government that wasn't actively stonewalling the renewable energy sector.
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gay picnic defence posted:What is the deal with this Danby fuckwit? He's held his seat basically uncontested until both the Liberals and the Greens ran full-force last year, so he has literally no idea how to handle being in focus like this. Then, you have to know that Melbourne Ports has part of Caulfield, which has an enormous Jewish population that's the only consistent voter bloc for him. ...but that's not all of the electorate, or even the majority, the rest of which having a pretty low Jewish population being composed of places like South Melbourne, Port Melbourne, Albert Park and St Kilda. Which is how both the Greens and Liberals are making gains; they're primarily focusing on the parts of the electorate that support them, which includes normally Labor-leaning voters that are just tired of being ignored by this jackass on the federal level. So we've got a guy with no idea how to properly behave under pressure, whose only ardent supporter base are in the Jewish population. So he'll kick up some fury whenever he smells blood on the Israel front, but he's bad at it and has no idea how to do that.
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The ABC reckons this is what's required for Yes to lose
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Maybe I'm bad at graphs but that seems completely plausible. Or was that your point? I don't agree with Gorilla Salad's poo poo fits of late but some context would be nice
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G-Spot Run posted:Maybe I'm bad at graphs but that seems completely plausible. Or was that your point? I don't agree with Gorilla Salad's poo poo fits of late but some context would be nice The context is here, and that scenario is one of the ones that relies on every poll done on the issue being wrong.
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https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/06/coalition-resists-calls-to-ban-importation-of-flammable-cladding Sure it's used everywhere illegally but banning it? 
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"The Turnbull government is again resisting calls to ban the importation of flammable cladding, saying scaring people “is not the answer”." Meanwhile, facial recognition database and pre-charge detention because terrorists are everywhere and among us at all times. 
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Even if it wasn't flammable it should be banned. Buildings that use it look awful when they're brand new, I hate to think what they'll look like in another few decades.
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I wonder if Xenophon quitting is linked to the citizenship case.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:The context is here, and that scenario is one of the ones that relies on every poll done on the issue being wrong. It's not impossible though. I mean muh brexit Muh Donald *gets job as a journalist*
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open24hours posted:I wonder if Xenophon quitting is linked to the citizenship case. Pretty obvious case of "you can't find me ineligible, I quit!", no?
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https://twitter.com/lanesainty/status/916093111222202368 https://twitter.com/lanesainty/status/916093517285302272 Christmas is early, guys.
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Anidav posted:It's not impossible though. Meanwhile the polls for Macron v Le Pen were wrong by a considerable amount but since it just made a clear win bigger nobody really talks about it. There's also a discussion about how there was no Shy Tory factor in that election at all, and how the concept applies more generally (or rather, how it doesn't). It's not impossible, and I get the idea of being cautious given how poo poo things have been, but NO winning requires a bigger leap than either of the two cases you mentioned.
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open24hours posted:I wonder if Xenophon quitting is linked to the citizenship case. Quitting federal to run at state level, maybe? That way he doesn't have to worry about the outcome of all this High Court stuff. gently caress Xenophon. Nothing of value is lost with him leaving.
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Someone pointed out that Xenophon leaving helps Sarah Hanson Young a lot.
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He's going to run in Hartley (marginal Lib seat in SA parliament)
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Someone pointed out that Xenophon leaving helps Sarah Hanson Young a lot. Doubt it, his seat will be taken by the Liberals, simple return of the one they lost to Bernardi. Greens in SA are going nowhere but down, SHY is probably going to lose her seat next election, with no Greens from SA in the Senate - 1 Lib, 1 AC, 2 Lab, 2 NXT are retained, while 2 Lib, 1 Lab, 1 NXT, 1 Green, and 1 FF only have half terms and need to fight against the regular split. NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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NTRabbit posted:Doubt it, his seat will be taken by the Liberals, simple return of the one they lost to Bernardi. Greens in SA are going nowhere but down. He has a huge personal vote. NXT got 3 Senators, and as much as we like to talk about Roberts only getting 70-odd first preferences the other successful NXT candidates only got around 100. Without him at the top of the ticket they're not going to be nearly as successful, and that makes it easier for the Greens.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:He has a huge personal vote. NXT got 3 Senators, and as much as we like to talk about Roberts only getting 70-odd first preferences the other successful NXT candidates only got around 100. Without him at the top of the ticket they're not going to be nearly as successful, and that makes it easier for the Greens. Xenophon had a double term, so he gets an appointed replacement. I think you're making a mistake in thinking that any NXT voters who leave will do anything other than drift back to the Liberals and Labor 2:1
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/oct/06/coalition-resists-calls-to-ban-importation-of-flammable-cladding "We don't want to ban it as it will scare people" WTF? So it's better they get burnt alive?
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NXT's also got a huge protest-vote contingent, in large part because SA gets ignored by the big two unless there's manufacturing involved, and even then it's not much actual effort. I wouldn't expect that to lead to a huge swing towards the Greens because Xenophon's far more right-wing, as well as the Greens having a similar issue to the L-Parties in that most of their tentpole policy platforms are very east-coast-focused. But I think they'll absorb a fair amount of the 'I just want to make them sweat' supporters, at least for a little while. Cleretic fucked around with this message at 02:20 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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You Am I posted:"We don't want to ban it as it will scare people"
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NTRabbit posted:Xenophon had a double term, so he gets an appointed replacement. I think you're making a mistake in thinking that any NXT voters who leave will do anything other than drift back to the Liberals and Labor 2:1 Who replaces him still depends on the court case result. Some will drift back to the major parties but I think there's enough of a protest vote to lift the Greens results, but I'm happy to agree to disagree.
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The preference deals, that's what will make a difference. What games are AC and NXT going to play with them? If it gets adversarial, will it be enough to split the conservative vote and improve the ALP's chances of getting an outright majority? Or is it a potential coalition to take government? I don't think the Greens factor large in all this. Interesting times.
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Doctor Spaceman posted:Who replaces him still depends on the court case result. Some will drift back to the major parties but I think there's enough of a protest vote to lift the Greens results, but I'm happy to agree to disagree. He's either replaced by 4th on the ticket, or someone from NXT appointed by the state government, makes little difference. SHY was elected 11th of 12 in the DD election, and Penny Wright missed out completely. She's now competing for 6th spot against Family First, Bernardi's idiots, NXT, and 2nd/3rd on the ballot from the ALP/Liberals, and this is SA. Pretty certain she's going to be combining her pension with a salary from a neoliberal think tank in the near future. I'm predicting 2 ALP, 1 Liberal, 1 NXT, 1 AC, and 1 FF. I also want SHY to lose, and gently caress off and never be seen again except as a vapid talking head giving the pretend opposite viewpoint on Sky, so maybe I'm biased NTRabbit fucked around with this message at 02:43 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Re cladding: I agree with banning it for sale and importation, but there is a far wider problem regarding enforcement of building standards. In the early 90s, the federal government pushed states to begin a process of privatisation of building regulation. In Victoria we now have a situation where private building surveyors receive 80% of permit applications (and thus fees), where as local government is responsible for post-construction monitoring and enforcement for compliance and safety. It's a combination of regulatory capture of private building surveyors and critically underresourced government regulators, made even worse by phoenixing of practitioner corporations to evade liability. The entire building system in Victoria is hosed and it sure as hell isnt going to get fixed anytime soon because that would require money, passing the costs on to developers (who fund the parties) or buyers (who vote). I can't imagine it's much better anywhere else around the country.
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