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Nyeehg posted:Altria has worked very well for me. She can fit into most teams due to her deck, has good attack, hp and decent np gain.Charisma and Mana Burst are excellent skills. Only team she doesn't work in is a crit team due to only having 1 crit card Do greens have a higher crit bonus or what?
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genericnick posted:Do greens have a higher crit bonus or what? Quick cards are more likely to make the enemy drop critical stars when you hit with them. so you'll have higher critical chances on the next turn.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:00
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a kitten posted:Oh huh. Guess it must have been my last ten pull and I was too annoyed by not getting any pirate ladies. Mainly I'm kind of miffed because I used all the cards on Stheno and she seems not that great and a friend's Carmilla has been helping me chew through these Riders for the daily. (and now I'm out of AP) You'll take Stheno out of the closet for Camelot. And then put her back there.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:33
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Well, no cool pirate ladies, but I did get Vlad and Lancer Liz, so pretty OK? Not sure I actually want to switch from Herc and Cu, though.
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Oct 5, 2017 23:37
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Was looking into how the various 'damage+ vs very very specific enemy types' compares to the more general one, and thankfully they do tend to be very substantial bonuses. Most 5*s with some variant on it start at a +50% which goes up to +100%, Sieg's only goes up to +80% but it does other things, Sanson's two are just 40-60% but he has two so there's a niche there and then there's Boudica, with her uselessly specific anti-roman skill, which is also a mere 40-60% I kind of wish Romulus's NP or something declared that all of his foes are now Roman to maybe make Boudica more usable in combination with him
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Oct 6, 2017 00:44
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even with that kind of boost boudica is a tanking servant not a damaging one
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Oct 6, 2017 00:51
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Gonna try getting some quartz before Cleopatra vanishes on JP. I want to Remember the Time. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LeiFF0gvqcc
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Oct 6, 2017 01:39
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Oct 6, 2017 01:45
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Oct 6, 2017 01:50
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I'm just glad that basic blue Caster gems have more than single-digit drop rates now
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Oct 6, 2017 01:54
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So, the Strange/Fake ritual is all hosed up, right? So how about another failed copy ritual where the Servants aren't summoned but "possess" their Masters and become Stands? And what would be the Servants Stand names? Cleopatra is Remember the Time, of course. Drake is I want it all. EMIYA... Owner of a Lonely Hear?
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Oct 6, 2017 01:57
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MonsieurChoc posted:EMIYA... Owner of a Lonely Hear? how about Hurt (I just really like this video and wanted to link it!)
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TheFireMagi posted:how about Hurt poo poo, that works way too well.
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Oct 6, 2017 02:13
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Finally got Medea to max ascension and almost level 6 Argon coin for Black grail fun times.
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Oct 6, 2017 02:47
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Easily farmable Caster gems at long last.
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Oct 6, 2017 03:20
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Which tier of this should I be running for SNAKE GEMS?
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Clawtopsy posted:Which tier of this should I be running for SNAKE GEMS? Sunken Rock Seas in Okeanos is technically the most efficient for Snake Jewels, but if you want to run the Caster daily, 10 AP is 2nd most efficient.
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Oct 6, 2017 03:48
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Dammit, another 30 Quartz down the drain. Looks like Cleo won't get to meet Caesar after all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV_CwCTOOMI
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Marogareh posted:Finally got Medea to max ascension and almost level 6 Argon coin for Black grail fun times. how the gently caress did you get that to level 6, alongside hopefully Medea's actually useful skill to a higher level than that up until these dailies i had one standard caster gem. the whole game. all of my casters are at 1/1/1
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Oct 6, 2017 04:10
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Soon my Waver will break the 2/2/2 barrier.
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Gyra_Solune posted:how the gently caress did you get that to level 6, alongside hopefully Medea's actually useful skill to a higher level than that Got divine words to 6 and need two more gold gems for level 6 argon. They gave out gems of every class and I think rarity in one of the early campaigns but I forgot which one it was. Medea was the only caster I had that was a worth a drat until recently so it was an easy choice. Marogareh fucked around with this message at 05:04 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 05:00
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HALF AP EMBERS ARE A GO. REPEAT! HALF AP EMBERS for a week! 10/10 to 17/10
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Oct 6, 2017 05:09
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 Looks like they heard me bitching about how many servants I've been ascending with the new dailies.
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Oct 6, 2017 05:33
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That would've been better around Okeanos when I needed a ton of cards for Euryale and Anne/Mary :/
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Oct 6, 2017 11:03
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The new dailies are sooo good. Went from having Waver's skills at 1/1/1 to 3/3/4 in one AP bar. I'm warming up to the yuri pirates after doing their interlude, but at lvl 70 their NP is still not exactly blowing me away. I've gotten it to hit for 400k, but that took them being super low with Black Grail, getting Waver and Drake buffs and hitting a Caster debuffed by Waver's NP.
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Oct 6, 2017 12:21
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400k, not blowing.
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Regarding the new dailies, I feel like it kind of breaks down like this: 10AP: Blue gems, might also be best for mats for pure drop/AP rates 20AP: Only if you need both blue & red gems equally 30AP: Red gems, class pieces 40AP: Gold gems, class monuments, mats (at least they seem to have the best drop rates, though the increased AP cost may ultimately make it less efficient)
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Sophism posted:The new dailies are sooo good. Went from having Waver's skills at 1/1/1 to 3/3/4 in one AP bar. Wait, how'd you get 70? I thought their ascension material wasn't available.
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Tae posted:Wait, how'd you get 70? I thought their ascension material wasn't available. Nero Fest had Homunculus Babies in the shop. After that I just had to farm some Ghost Lanterns.
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I fed all those babies to my cat but now I need so many more for ascension and skills  e: Oh right. How are Anne and Mary on their own without that np that erodes their hit points? Any particular teammates or other ce I should use? a kitten fucked around with this message at 15:51 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Oct 6, 2017 15:48
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At least Cat paid you back with some claws and a nice dinner.
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a kitten posted:I fed all those babies to my cat but now I need so many more for ascension and skills Their NP gain isn't the worst, but it's not exactly great, so anything that helps with that first of all. (Waver is of course the ideal, if you have one or a friend with one.) Other than that NP buffs and crit buffs.
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genericnick posted:Do greens have a higher crit bonus or what? To elaborate, a crit team relies on getting as many crit stars as possible. Your more likely to get crit stars if you use green quick cards and/or use attacks that hit multiple times. In general this means having servants with a few quick cards in their deck so you can get multiple quick chains. Servants with only 1 quick card (like Altria) are usually a poor fit for a quick team because having only 1 quick card means you're much less likely to get quick chains, meaning you struggle to consistently get enough crit stars. There are exceptions to this though. Drake and Gilgamesh only have 1 quick card so appear to be a bad fit at first glance. However, all of their attacks hit multiple times so they still generate a respectable (or in Gils case ridiculous) amount of crit stars. Nyeehg fucked around with this message at 16:30 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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But I suppose you also don't want too many qick cards since base damage is lowest and you'd rather crit on a buster card.
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genericnick posted:But I suppose you also don't want too many qick cards since base damage is lowest and you'd rather crit on a buster card. In practice yes because that's the way the meta works out, but in principle Quick card crits are very good too; a critical on a Quick card does more damage than a normal Buster, almost as much NP charge as a normal Arts and gives you a load of stars so you'll crit again next turn. Unfortunately things don't really go that way because there are much better supports for Buster and Arts cards than for Quick cards, because critical stars don't benefit NPs at all and because there are lots of ways to get all the stars you'll ever need without even using them. I don't know how they'll ever make Quick cards relevant again as long as Fragments of 2030 exists.
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genericnick posted:But I suppose you also don't want too many qick cards since base damage is lowest and you'd rather crit on a buster card. Yep, you want a mix of servants who can generate crit stars and servants who can capitalise on the stars generated. Part of the reason Gilgamesh does so well on a crit team is that he can do both effectively. His attacks produce a good number of stars and his collector skill allows him to hoard any crit stars generated by the team. When Gil crits on a buster he does insane damage. Anne and Mary are also a natural fit for a crit team since they have 2 buster cards and all their active skills are about making them crit harder and more often.
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I'm assuming the 2030 meta is, have one or two Servants with 2030, and a third damage dealer with either a super high gather rate class like Rider/Archer (presumably with a critical damage boosting CE) or a servant with a star gathering CE. Might go nicely with someone like Hans who can generate stars on his own and has a low gather rate as well.
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Nate RFB posted:I'm assuming the 2030 meta is, have one or two Servants with 2030, and a third damage dealer with either a super high gather rate class like Rider/Archer (presumably with a critical damage boosting CE) or a servant with a star gathering CE. Might go nicely with someone like Hans who can generate stars on his own and has a low gather rate as well. Beyond a certain point I don't think gather rate even matters? With multiple 2030s, a stars-over-time effect from someone like Hans or Merlin and a damage dealer or two critting with high hit count buster cards it should be perfectly possible to consistently get 40-50 stars every turn without ever using Quick cards.
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One 2030 gives 8 stars. Three will provide a constant 24 stars that's litterally 50% crit chance all aboard for any team. Put them with star absorb servant, however, means two of its card will be 100% every turn until the skill expire.
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Is grailing SAlter or Medusa worth it or should I save them for JAlter that I'll roll in 3 years? Finally got both to final ascension - love those new dailies. EPIC fat guy vids fucked around with this message at 20:27 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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