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Rigel posted:3rd amendment is not really confusing, though. Its useless, but we're not confused about its meaning. The 10th is the real joke one. It's totally meaningless. Edit: I was wrong, 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals. Engblom v. Carey. Rent-A-Cop fucked around with this message at 01:22 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Jeff Sessions Rescinds Obama-Era Government Policy That Protects Transgender Workers From Discrimination http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovemen..._discrimination
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Synthbuttrange posted:Jeff Sessions Rescinds Obama-Era Government Policy That Protects Transgender Workers From Discrimination Did Obama do it? Ok it gotta go.
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If you want to get really confused try to work out how you reconcile the ruling in United States v. Miller with the ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller when laws based on both are still in effect and being upheld in federal courts.
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Rent-A-Cop posted:IIRC the 3rd has one SCOTUS case ever. Holy crap, a court actually had to analyze the 3rd amendment, I just assumed we've never had an issue with it before.
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No lie I'd have to look up what the 3rd amendment even is.
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Mustached Demon posted:Did Obama do it? Ok it gotta go. So should we just go through Obama's wiki page and start taking bets on what is going to be targeted next by Trump/Sessions?
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Rent-A-Cop posted:If you want to get really confused try to work out how you reconcile the ruling in United States v. Miller with the ruling in District of Columbia v. Heller when laws based on both are still in effect and being upheld in federal courts. Well they did have an impact on the law. The cities in those two cases went from "no handguns ever, gently caress you go away" to allowing them hypothetically, but making the process so insanely difficult that very few people jump through all the hoops.
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Zil posted:So should we just go through Obama's wiki page and start taking bets on what is going to be targeted next by Trump/Sessions? Yeah actually I'm not joking.
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Mustached Demon posted:Yeah actually I'm not joking. I don't think Zil is, either
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What I'm gathering is that pro gun people can't be reasoned with and will argue the same half dozen lovely and easily refuted rhetorical noises in shifts until the pressure dies down or they cross a line and get put in time out. "What about cars, what about my rights, what even is an assault rifle, what's the point of laws when you can break them" over and over in a circle.
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http://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555685136/republicans-and-democrats-dont-agree-dont-like-each-other-and-its-worst-than-evequote:Democrats and Republicans have worse views of each other than ever before
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Minion of Freya posted:What I'm gathering is that pro gun people can't be reasoned with and will argue the same half dozen lovely and easily refuted rhetorical noises in shifts until the pressure dies down or they cross a line and get put in time out. "What about cars, what about my rights, what even is an assault rifle, what's the point of laws when you can break them" over and over in a circle. Yep. I would kind of respect someone who goes "yes, I know that banning all guns would reduce gun deaths by a lot, and yes I know that not doing it will mean mass shootings indefinitely and there's nothing else that would significantly impact them. However, I still oppose a ban because those deaths are the price we have to pay for the freedom to have guns." The argument would be kind of over at that point, because the only answer to that is debating the worth of countless lives vs a hobby, but it would at least be less maddening. Most pro-gun folks I believe think the argument I wrote above, but they also don't want a ton of angry people calling them a monster, so they instead opt for bullshit arguments.
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Trump HHS is rolling back the birth control mandate in Obamacare. Employers with more than 25 employees will no longer be required to provide healthcare plans that cover birth control at no cost. Previously, exemptions were only allowed for organizations that were entirely religious in nature (i.e. Religious private schools, actual churches, or convents). https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/us/politics/trump-birth-control.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur quote:Trump Administration Set to Roll Back Birth Control Mandate
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Grapplejack posted:http://www.npr.org/2017/10/05/555685136/republicans-and-democrats-dont-agree-dont-like-each-other-and-its-worst-than-eve A completely unsurprising result when one of only two realistically possible political parties goes completely ape-poo poo insane, starts openly supporting white supremacist/nazi organizations and wants to force it's citizenry into bankruptcy, or death, or bankruptcy and then death to give a few more points to it's donor class stock portfolios.
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zxqv8 posted:I don't think Zil is, either Sadly yes. 
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bird food bathtub posted:A completely unsurprising result when one of only two realistically possible political parties goes completely ape-poo poo insane, starts openly supporting white supremacist/nazi organizations and wants to force it's citizenry into bankruptcy, or death, or bankruptcy and then death to give a few more points to it's donor class stock portfolios. Yeah, liberals want us to live in some fruity paradise where all people are born as equals and supported throughout their lives to reach their fullest potential, and conservatives want to exterminate vast swathes of humanity and regress society back to religious tribal warfare. The most grating thing about that article is how it dryly it states the facts. Nice Polite Republicans posted:In other words, for as much as people seem to lament inertia in Washington, part of it is because of public opinion. No loving poo poo, one side wishes they could debate whether we should raise taxes on the richest Americans by 3% or 5% to pay for poor people to go to college, and the other wishes they could debate if they can put welfare recipients in labor camps or death camps.
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I don't know how Republicans like themselves since they have the political and moral views of cheesy '80s bad guys.
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My fellow Americans, let me be clear: Breathing, is good. Everyone should breathe. We are coming together, as a country, in a bipartisan effort to breathe together. I invite all my Republican friends to breathe with me.
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Rigel posted:3rd amendment is not really confusing, though. Its useless, but we're not confused about its meaning. they rejected specifically the 3A parts of the claim lolol (SWAT team occupied his apartment as a sniper position for the apartment across the way they wanted to raid or something)
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DACK FAYDEN posted:Hey, there was a guy who tried to bring a 3A case to the SCOTUS last year, or maybe the year before! He actually had a pretty plausible argument. Modern law enforcement is basically a city militia, which is (constitutionally, especially in the Five Clarences Thomas Alternate Universe) basically military, therefore 3A applies.
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Colombia lost against paraguay and is now not going to the world cup hillary clinton lost the election brexit won my mind is controlling the world anything i want to happen does not happen. I need to stop wanting good things and want only bad things to happen.
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Long thread but holy poo poo this is depressing to think about : https://twitter.com/aslavitt/status/916069859066286081
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quote:Gill (Salt Lake DA) added in a statement: “Officer Fox reasonably believed deadly force was necessary to prevent death or serious bodily injury to himself and/or others and therefore his use of deadly force was ‘justified’.” https://twitter.com/muslimiq/status/916012272883027971
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Long thread but holy poo poo this is depressing to think about : Oh this is fine. Actively sabotaging the US healthcare system to ruin it and make it look bad without actually passing their healthcare bill. I'm sure nothing bad will come of that.
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DC Murderverse posted:Oh this is fine. Actively sabotaging the US healthcare system to ruin it and make it look bad without actually passing their healthcare bill. I'm sure nothing bad will come of that. Hopefully a bunch of boomers closer to the cold embrace of death.
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DC Murderverse posted:Oh this is fine. Actively sabotaging the US healthcare system to ruin it and make it look bad without actually passing their healthcare bill. I'm sure nothing bad will come of that. As long as their police forces continue to murder enough citizens pour encourager les autres nothing bad will come for them or their oligarch friends Can always move more people into prison labor after all
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C2C - 2.0 posted:Long thread but holy poo poo this is depressing to think about : I'm not convinced they have the capability or foresight to plan something so subtle and intricate and if they do they'll probably botch it. Shimrra Jamaane fucked around with this message at 05:16 on Oct 6, 2017 |
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm not convinced they have the capability or foresight to plan something so subtle and intricate and if they do they'll probably botch it. Given how quickly they snapped into pushing G-C it seems smarter to act as if this is more possible than not.
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From the beginning G-C always seemed like a last second hail mary and never really had a good shot to succeed. We got our 3 solid Nos not long into it while a few more loose Nos were floating around in the background as well.
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A reminder, you can still be arrested for parody on twitter: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/10/miami-beach-cops-arrest-man-for-twitter-parody-of-police-spokesman/ quote:A Miami Beach man is facing criminal charges after he created a parody account purporting to be Ernesto Rodriguez, a spokesman for the Miami Beach Police Department. The defendant, Ernesto Orsetti, is charged with impersonating a law enforcement officer, a third-degree felony, according to a press release posted by the Miami New Times.
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Shimrra Jamaane posted:I'm not convinced they have the capability or foresight to plan something so subtle and intricate and if they do they'll probably botch it. They're definitely capable of planning it. They're even more capable of loving it up, and as long as the opposition knows what they're doing it'll be a lot harder to get it done. The executive order part will definitely happen, but whether they get the tax reform bill through with it all is a whole nother story.
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Trabisnikof posted:A reminder, you can still be arrested for parody on twitter: The Miami account seems to be stretching use of the word "parody" from the story it seems like he was just impersonating the police officer and trying to make him look bad. (Unless I missed something, I just glanced at it.) This story linked in that article is much more troubling as the account was apparently labeled as a parody account. http://www.pjstar.com/article/20140416/NEWS/140419123
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So - I've been drunk-watching WWII in Color on Netflix - worth a watch - like any good historical text/documentary, politics is heavily involved.
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Spacebump posted:The Miami account seems to be stretching use of the word "parody" from the story it seems like he was just impersonating the police officer and trying to make him look bad. (Unless I missed something, I just glanced at it.) Well going to the Miami Herald article, apparently the spokesperson has known for months that it was parody: quote:A few months ago, Miami Beach Police Spokesperson Ernesto Rodriguez joked over the phone with a New Times reporter that someone had made a parody Twitter account pretending to be him. At the time, the page seemed like a gag. The most the cops claim he did was harm the police department's brand: quote:"The behavior here was outrageous," MBPD Chief Dan Oates said in an afternoon news release. "It threatened to damage the reputation of our superb Public Information Officer, as well as the Miami Beach Police Department brand. We simply can’t tolerate such an impersonation, and I am glad Mr. Orsetti will now be held accountable.” If they can't actually claim anything specific and the cops clearly knew it was parody this is complete bullshit. And certainly not felony impersonating an officer. But he's still arrested.
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Boon posted:So - I've been drunk-watching WWII in Color on Netflix - worth a watch - like any good historical text/documentary, politics is heavily involved. I've also been drinking watching historical documentaries for context.
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BrandorKP posted:I've also been drinking watching historical documentaries for context. I've been doing half of what you mention here.
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Apparently the Salt Lake City DA called this a good shoot back in August due to reports from the cops that Harmon turned on them with a knife. Admittedly the video is a little shaky but I don't see a knife and it looks like Harmon turns only after being shot. Oh well, just another American dead due to senseless gun violence.
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