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The weirdest thing about Forces is that it was delayed a year from Sonic's 25th anniversary and yet that extra time doesn't seem apparent. It also feels like we've seen less of Forces than Generations by this point in their marketing. Almost as if they know how underwhelming it is. But maybe it's a side effect of releasing two games so close together.
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Pants Donkey posted:The weirdest thing about Forces is that it was delayed a year from Sonic's 25th anniversary and yet that extra time doesn't seem apparent. It also feels like we've seen less of Forces than Generations by this point in their marketing. Almost as if they know how underwhelming it is. But maybe it's a side effect of releasing two games so close together. Everything we've seen so far suggests that Forces hasn't had a whole lot of development time. I'm not sure what Sonic Team were working on since Lost World (or even Runners for that matter) but it probably wasn't what we're seeing now. Since Sonic Team is more of a brand than a dedicated team I guess it's possible that most people were tied up in other projects at Sega, but I think it's more likely that they had a separate Sonic game that they scrapped. A member of another forum (who apparently is considered a trustworthy source) had allegedly seen what they were working on back in about 2014 said they weren't making a Generations follow up or a Lost World follow up, which would support this.
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Oct 6, 2017 11:30
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Pants Donkey posted:The weirdest thing about Forces is that it was delayed a year from Sonic's 25th anniversary and yet that extra time doesn't seem apparent. It also feels like we've seen less of Forces than Generations by this point in their marketing. Almost as if they know how underwhelming it is. But maybe it's a side effect of releasing two games so close together. You're presuming that it was originally scheduled to have been released on the 25th anniversary, but as far as I can tell, that's when they just started development.
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Oct 6, 2017 14:27
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exclusive footage of sanic forces gameplay https://youtu.be/hKdOtJ-mMfM
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Oct 6, 2017 21:36
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Augus posted:That's not Doomsday, that's the normal Final Boss theme. The weird thing is until I checked just now, I would have sworn up and down the last boss of Sonic 3 was Doomsday. I wonder if I got it from a strategy guide or something, those things were always terrible about stuff like that. LOCUST FART HELL posted:the original music was all remixes of songs SEGA don't actually hold the rights to so they had to change it extremely last minute The real funny thing is that I could have sworn they haven't done a Sonic 3 port in awhile because they don't have rights to the music from it.  e: Of course this is the game that spawned the lawsuit that resulted in them trashing their own comic universe because they hosed up the documentation about who owned half the characters in it, so
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Ursine Catastrophe posted:The weird thing is until I checked just now, I would have sworn up and down the last boss of Sonic 3 was Doomsday. I wonder if I got it from a strategy guide or something, those things were always terrible about stuff like that. Certain songs from sonic 3 they don't really have the rights to. Carnival Night, Icecap, Launch Base, and the vanilla sonic 3 end credits music. Also the boss music I think.
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Oct 6, 2017 21:46
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It's no Sonic Eraser music, that's for sure.
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Kurieg posted:Certain songs from sonic 3 they don't really have the rights to. Carnival Night, Icecap, Launch Base, and the vanilla sonic 3 end credits music. Also the boss music I think. The miniboss / original Knuckles theme too The best I can surmise is that Sega didn't pay enough royalties to MJ's collaborators (Brad Buxer and Cirocco Jones) and they faced some sort of legal action back in 2012 or so; the last time the Sonic 3 half of the content got any type of release was the 2011 Steam release of S3&K. All of their Sega Genesis plug-n-play consoles conspicuously omit Sonic 3 but include Sonic & Knuckles. Whatever's holding them up hasn't caused them to pull it from Steam or the Wii Shop Channel (not that the latter would be a problem for much longer), but the PC Sonic & Knuckles Collection from 1997 scrubbed all the music in question and replaced them with different tracks. You could jump to the conclusion that, as S&K Collection wasn't a straight port but was essentially a remake of the Genesis games for PC, there could be some bizarre contractual reason there compared to just dumping the ROM into classic collections, and that something similar might be the specific reason we never got the Sonic 3 iOS remake from Whitehead & co. But who knows but Sega, at this point
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nerdbot posted:The miniboss / original Knuckles theme too I think it's actually possible that Sonic fans trying to figure out MJ's involvement in S3's music caused said collaborators to realize that their work was being used uncredited or something to that effect when fans contacted them asking about it, causing the legal action.
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TerrorInstinct posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_f4LFgiXFY Man imagine playing the game blind, getting to wherever this plays, and the slow realization of what this song is a remix of.
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Elentor posted:This is Earth radio, and now here's human music.
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Oct 7, 2017 00:34
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nerdbot posted:The miniboss / original Knuckles theme too The steam release of sonic 3 is basically just the sonic 3 Rom, their license probably allowed for infinite production of the unmodified product, but any modifications would require renegotiation.
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Kurieg posted:The steam release of sonic 3 is basically just the sonic 3 Rom, their license probably allowed for infinite production of the unmodified product, but any modifications would require renegotiation. And lemme guess, modifying it includes "putting it onto a non-Genesis chipset"?
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Stink Terios posted:
And yet you realise it's just another dumb nostalgia play. Hey, we just had a great nostalgia game and the Death Egg was pretty much the only thing it didn't bring back! Makes you think
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widespread posted:And lemme guess, modifying it includes "putting it onto a non-Genesis chipset"? No, they can do that, if they redo the soundtrack and remove anything that has even the hint of jackson's fingerprint on it. The problem is that since it's now pretty much an open secret why they'd have to do it, they're increasingly incentivized not to, because of the bad press it might bring.
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Oct 7, 2017 04:03
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exactly how much of this game is gonna be recycled assets from Lost World and Generations? seems like a lot
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Stink Terios posted:
I wonder if Metal Sonic is jealous of his kid brother.
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Just to be clear, those songs aren't different over copyright. They're different because they use samples the midi nightmare engine couldn't reproduce.Augus posted:exactly how much of this game is gonna be recycled assets from Lost World and Generations?
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Owning Up: Sega Has Officially Apologized For Its Role In Supplying Nazi Soldiers With ‘Sonic The Hedgehog’ Gamesquote:Even after watchdog groups unearthed old Sega advertisements reading “Sonic The Hedgehog: The Aryan Choice For Leisure” and “Argentina won’t extradite, and neither will Sonic!” Sega still refused to publicly address its controversial connections.
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Frankston posted:That sonic movie, if it ever gets made, is going to be loving awful. ...unless they get Tom Hardy to play Robotnik.  TerrorInstinct posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_f4LFgiXFY It's weird the intro music isn't representative of the rest of the game at all. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARy1oZ1wfhs sharrrk posted:the sonic spinball options music is under my protection. no one is allowed to say anything bad about it Here someone remixed it to be less grating. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Su2E9U9csu8
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Stink Terios posted:
They should've at least made it like the Return of the Jedi half-built Death Star.
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this is like what, the third, fourth time the Death Egg has been rebuilt? Sonic 4 Sonic Battle Sonic the Fighters... MikeJF posted:They should've at least made it like the Return of the Jedi half-built Death Star. that's what they did in Sonic 4, with it still only being partially constructed around the Little Planet  Say what you will about Sonic 4 but it looks pretty cool. Of course now that I've complimented a single aspect of that game, we can look forward to 4 pages of people saying how heinous doing so is. Nodosaur fucked around with this message at 06:49 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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MikeJF posted:They should've at least made it like the Return of the Jedi half-built Death Star. Or at least turned whatever's left of the moon into Eggkiller Base.
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I'm sure I've mentioned this before, but it weirds me out that Robotnik in Boom is in good shape but they still make fat jokes. On that note, while reading about a female performer, a poster insulted her by saying she was 'robotnik from the neck down'. That is the harshest. TFRazorsaw posted:Of course now that I've complimented a single aspect of that game, we can look forward to 4 pages of people saying how heinous doing so is. Was the IDW Sonic stuff any good? I saw some news pop up but expected the thread would comment on it. Or I missed it.
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Kurieg posted:The steam release of sonic 3 is basically just the sonic 3 Rom, their license probably allowed for infinite production of the unmodified product, but any modifications would require renegotiation. Just for the sake of being needlessly pedantic, not "basically". It is just the Sonic 3 ROM running in a Genesis emulator wrapper. i only point this out because it's a distinct style of port from Sonic CD, which is decidedly not an .iso running in a wrapper. For the sake of contributing non-douchebaggery to the thread, I figured out today that Mania level speedruns are short enough to fit into a tweet. I'm amused by this. https://twitter.com/Succinct_Punchy/status/916511006339330048
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so sonic in froces wont be able to gain back in rings, what do you think about this bold change
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Oct 7, 2017 08:36
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Im extremely good at video games, so i shan't be losing rings in the first place
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Oct 7, 2017 09:12
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truly this will be the dark souls of video games
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If you lose rings you didn't want them enough and don't deserve them back. gently caress you
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TFRazorsaw posted:that's what they did in Sonic 4, with it still only being partially constructed around the Little Planet I'll admit that's pretty rad.
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Oct 7, 2017 16:35
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I thought that was finished? It just had really big windows/forcefield.
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Oct 7, 2017 16:53
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Eggman turning the Little Planet into a Death Egg was cool and good IMHO
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Oct 7, 2017 17:34
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Cool ideas wasted on a bad game 
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Oct 7, 2017 18:13
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What even made Little Planet special again? Just that the time stones were there? I don't get why it keeps being brought back lately in games, other than 'it's the sonic cd thing'
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It appears from nowhere once in a while and then disappears soon after and Eggman keeps putting metal shells on it. It's also a place where you can travel through time just by going fast enough, which is probably caused by the time stones. But mostly it's the Sonic CD thing.
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MikeJF posted:They should've at least made it like the Return of the Jedi half-built Death Star. He conquered the planet, I feel like he ought to have two Death Eggs up there.
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Huh, so this is a thing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8ZIMMcbA3c
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Game looks weird zoomed out.
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