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Groovelord Neato posted:[incredibly darth vader at the end of episode iii voice] NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO Midig posted:gently caress me. I still don't know how you guys couldn't tell this dork that looks like the Ur College Republican was an idiot. It's like looking at a clown and assuming it wont try and consume your flesh at the first opportunity.
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Al-Saqr posted:so is this guy a psychotic ignorant backbiting piece of poo poo who hates people for no real reason and makes controversies out of nothing? because this is all I'm getting out of this video. he was flirting with lowtax for a while on twitter, though it seems like after charlottesville(?) that came to an end also, didn't know he was a gamergater, but of course he was. jesus christ. crime weed fucked around with this message at 14:07 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Kjoery posted:also, didn't know he was a gamergater, but of course he was. jesus christ. He was literally one of the people who kicked it off, he was "The Internet Aristocrat" at the time and was exactly as pathetic as that sounds.
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Yardbomb posted:He was literally one of the people who kicked it off, he was "The Internet Aristocrat" at the time and was exactly as pathetic as that sounds. Here's a handy trick I use, is it a white guy? If yes, then do some research before subscribing.
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Mr Interweb posted:That Fantano guy put up a 20 minute response to that article that was posted the other day. Anyone seen it? I've seen it. I discovered Needle Drop a couple years ago when I was searching YouTube for some hilarious take downs of that awful Miley Cyrus / Flaming Lips collaboration album they made together back in 2015 and I started getting hooked on his work not long after that. I gotta say, I've never been left with the impression that he was alt-right in the slightest. I understand that he's anti-war, that he finds white supremacy to be abhorrent, he thinks Donald Trump is a poo poo heel, etc... The article from Fader, to me, feels like a cherry picked stink piece where they took a lot of his videos from his now shuttered thatistheplan alternate channel and framed the content in them to leave the reader with the impression that he's some sort of edge lord who thinks lynchings are funny. I urge the folks here to go and watch his response video because I think it's a smart retort to the nasty claims that were made against him in that wretched article. I normally side often with the folks that post in this forum, but I'm a little disheartened by a lot of the people in this thread who jumped on the "Fantano is Alt-Right" bandwagon because of this lovely article. I think you owe it to him to at least hear his response. Also, I'm not entirely convinced Report of the Week is alt-right either. I'm fairly certain he's mentioned in one of his "My Average Day" videos that he's a fan of Barack Obama.
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Who What Now posted:I still don't know how you guys couldn't tell this dork that looks like the Ur College Republican was an idiot. It's like looking at a clown and assuming it wont try and consume your flesh at the first opportunity. some people are apolitical you know. Yardbomb posted:He was literally one of the people who kicked it off, he was "The Internet Aristocrat" at the time and was exactly as pathetic as that sounds. on an episode of chapo they talked about sargon and when they mentioned the internet aristocrat i thought they were joking. alas... Macrame_God posted:I've seen it. I discovered Needle Drop a couple years ago when I was searching YouTube for some hilarious take downs of that awful Miley Cyrus / Flaming Lips collaboration album they made together back in 2015 and I started getting hooked on his work not long after that. I gotta say, I've never been left with the impression that he was alt-right in the slightest. I understand that he's anti-war, that he finds white supremacy to be abhorrent, he thinks Donald Trump is a poo poo heel, etc... did uh you ignore his other channel? from his main channel you'd never in a million years think he'd be down with the alt right but if you see his other videos it's plain as day.
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Glazier posted:Here's a handy trick I use, is it a white guy? If yes, then do some research before subscribing. Fortunately PrimitiveTechnology knows better than to ever speak on camera, so I hope we'll be free from any weird outbursts on at least one white guy's channel.
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Groovelord Neato posted:some people are apolitical you know. People that look like him never are.
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Groovelord Neato posted:some people are apolitical you know. Being "apolitical" is being political, you're tacitly approving the status quo.
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Groovelord Neato posted:did uh you ignore his other channel? from his main channel you'd never in a million years think he'd be down with the alt right but if you see his other videos it's plain as day. I've seen some of the videos from his alternate channel, namely some of the "meme reviews" which, to me, seemed more like him poking fun at meme culture rather than pandering to it. I don't think it's "plain as day" at all. I also don't think he's alt-right just because he's tried to have civil conversations with alt-right leaning people on his podcast. Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert have also tried to have civil discussions with hard right leaning folks on their platforms as well. No one thinks they're alt-right. Has anyone here other than me actually made an effort to watch his response video? I see a lot of people here prepared to burn him at the stake in this thread after the Fader hit piece (which had to be corrected a couple of times since it was first published because, get this, the author didn't do their research) but as soon as he posts a video defending himself everyone seems to clam up. There are some very toxic alt-right personalities on YouTube and it's a problem that I think should be addressed but I am not in the least bit convinced that Fantano is one of them. It just seems to me that there are folks out there who want to stick him in the alt-right box just because he's not perfectly 100% on board with every single left-leaning sensibility out there. Watch the response and let the man defend himself already.
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Macrame_God posted:I've seen it. I discovered Needle Drop a couple years ago when I was searching YouTube for some hilarious take downs of that awful Miley Cyrus / Flaming Lips collaboration album they made together back in 2015 and I started getting hooked on his work not long after that. I gotta say, I've never been left with the impression that he was alt-right in the slightest. I understand that he's anti-war, that he finds white supremacy to be abhorrent, he thinks Donald Trump is a poo poo heel, etc... I thought Fantano's response was a decent retort to most of the Fader article but note that Fantano associates the Alt-Right (Nazis) strictly with white supremacy and only answers claims he is a white supremacist despite steering clear from the other horrible views Alt-Right have - anti-feminism, homophobia, transphobia. Fantano does pretty explicitly enjoy lampooning social justice activists and does not offer up any counter to it - only a counter to his alleged support of the Alt-Right whom he strictly associates with white supremacy and nothing else. That's smart since he can dispel the Fader piece while still, with a wink and a nod, maintain his Alt-Right fan base, such as it is. I think at his core he's a fairly progressive guy - see his support for left causes like free healthcare, free college, etc. - but also see the criticism of a lot of the left that those progressive goals often leave oppressed minorities behind and end up primarily benefiting heterosexual whites because of the way our system is already designed. You can't address financial inequality without addressing social inequality since eventually we'll be right back where we started due to people being left behind. Social justice and economic justice go hand-in-hand or not at all. I have to assume Fantano is someone who think social justice costs us opportunities to advance the cause of economic justice. Fantano is incredibly savvy and I don't think it's good to take his response at face value.
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Goon Danton posted:Fortunately PrimitiveTechnology knows better than to ever speak on camera, so I hope we'll be free from any weird outbursts on at least one white guy's channel. At some point he'll be building a primitive something or other while wearing a MAGA hat.
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I mean given he's Australian I would assume the next logical step would be to burn down an aboriginal village or something instead of building his own.
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Huzanko posted:At some point he'll be building a primitive something or other while wearing a MAGA hat. I don't think anything involving wearing clothes is very likely either.
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It's weird that a couple of you are going nuts over a picture of the Report of the Week kid from "know your meme" of all things. Tried finding that exchange which was obviously supposed to be from youtube, tried every mix and match of keywords and so on, most of the statement there, nothing came up. Tried finding the 4chins thread in the image on archives, nothing was there. The only peep I've ever even heard from them about politics was one time urging people to participate in their local elections.
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Yardbomb posted:It's weird that a couple of you are going nuts over a picture of the Report of the Week kid from "know your meme" of all things. Tried finding that exchange which was obviously supposed to be from youtube, tried every mix and match of keywords and so on, most of the statement there, nothing came up. Tried finding the 4chins thread in the image on archives, nothing was there. The only peep I've ever even heard from them about politics was one time urging people to participate in their local elections. I am JUST going CRAZY over THE political AFFILIATIONS of A kid WHO reviews FAST food WHile WearIng a Suit that"S TOO big FoR hIM! God drat IT!
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Spoony is a sad case. His stuff had a good level of effort and humor, but as others said, the type that gets an outlet doing online stuff is not usually the same type that gels well with other people. I remember seeing some messages of his on Twitter about trying new medication and hoping it was helping, but apparently not. Shortly afterward he was screeching at someone merely for saying that honey doesn't ever go bad, because it would not survive the heat death of the universe. Depression PLUS anger management issues is a combo I'd not wish on anyone. As for Metokur, I just saw him on a Sons on Kojima episode as he bragged about dunking on perennial wanker DarkSydePhil, and he seemed way too happy to bully losers and toot his own horn for being an internet warrior, so I'm not surprised he turned out to be a shithead. And even the SoK turned out to be a bunch of edgy, toxic assholes. Are youtube celebs just broken people, or do 'real' celebs benefit from having less exposure and PR machines that deal with their poo poo in the backstage? A question for the ages.
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Macrame_God posted:I've seen some of the videos from his alternate channel, namely some of the "meme reviews" which, to me, seemed more like him poking fun at meme culture rather than pandering to it. I don't think it's "plain as day" at all. I also don't think he's alt-right just because he's tried to have civil conversations with alt-right leaning people on his podcast. Bill Maher and Stephen Colbert have also tried to have civil discussions with hard right leaning folks on their platforms as well. No one thinks they're alt-right. Has anyone here other than me actually made an effort to watch his response video? I see a lot of people here prepared to burn him at the stake in this thread after the Fader hit piece (which had to be corrected a couple of times since it was first published because, get this, the author didn't do their research) but as soon as he posts a video defending himself everyone seems to clam up. if you poo poo on "sjws" and talk with people with sargon and sam hyde in a friendly manner i'm going to question your motives.
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Sephyr posted:And even the SoK turned out to be a bunch of edgy, toxic assholes. Man, it's almost like groups that form to obsess about and stalk weirdos on the internet always turn out to be aggressively toxic assholes. Like seriously, the first time someone told me all the Sons of Kojima poo poo my first gut response was "This is gonna turn out into that Chris-Chan poo poo again".
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Sephyr posted:Are youtube celebs just broken people, or do 'real' celebs benefit from having less exposure and PR machines that deal with their poo poo in the backstage? A question for the ages. I think it matters who you associate with. All the educational youtubers I watch seem well rounded and normal, they collaborate with one another. Similarly, I've noticed that video game youtubers seem a lot more stable if they have a workspace with other people rather than just streaming alone from home.
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Anyone that gives a platform to Sam Hyde is a motherfucker and deserves whatever they get. Nazi sympathetizers love the artistic merit argument, which is second to freedom of speech. Fantano is really naive is he thinks anyone to the left of trump buys the artistic merit of Hyde. Fader definitely wrote a hit piece on Fantano but they were a closer to the truth than he wants to admit. Spoony made an ultima series and I appreciated the hell out of it as someone too young or poor to play ultima in its time. But spoony comes of as a narcissist and yes, even narcissists experience depression when their supply is removed. The way he alienated his fans and purged his following from any criticism came off as typical megalomania. He deserves sympathy for his brain problems but that doesn't lessen the danger and toxicity of a narcissist. These youtube guys don't understand that nazis are a legitimate threat to minorities, women, immigrants, gays, and trans. This isn't a political debate, there is no argument to win. People fear for their and their loved ones' survival. temple fucked around with this message at 18:31 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Sephyr posted:Are youtube celebs just broken people, or do 'real' celebs benefit from having less exposure and PR machines that deal with their poo poo in the backstage? A question for the ages. Youtube is a very personal medium, if there's anything remotely "problematic" about you, eventually it's going to come through (and be out there forever) if you're making hours and hours of content without much oversight. I'm sure your average actor or television personality or whatever is just as lovely as Fantano, it's just that their subconscious isn't on permanent record.
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Sephyr posted:Spoony is a sad case. His stuff had a good level of effort and humor, but as others said, the type that gets an outlet doing online stuff is not usually the same type that gels well with other people. I remember seeing some messages of his on Twitter about trying new medication and hoping it was helping, but apparently not. Shortly afterward he was screeching at someone merely for saying that honey doesn't ever go bad, because it would not survive the heat death of the universe. Depression PLUS anger management issues is a combo I'd not wish on anyone. yeah, metokur can be sorta funny sometimes, but he is a spiteful bully streak a mile wide. sons of kojima stuff is funny though the mgs3 compilations is great. temple posted:
idk if he always was a narcissist . i personally think he always had other mental issues(bipolar and depression/etc) that he was able to keep in check with medications. he got famous fast and it went to his head, he had a bad break up and tons of other poo poo happens and it "broke" him.
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Is this an appropriate venue to discuss Sartre's Anti-Semite and Jew? It was being quoted around the Trump thread a lot in DnD so I went out and got a copy. This...might be the most uneven text I've ever read. Some parts are highly diagnostic of the precise internal mental world of people in the alt-right, but a lot of it is profoundly, horrifyingly ignorant. The philosopher who wrote the intro does a good job of emphasizing "sartre did no research before writing this text". I tried to talk about it in the general philosophy thread and apparently that was enough to kill it.
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Gonna be honest here, Sam Hyde is a new name to me. What's his deal?
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Goon Danton posted:Gonna be honest here, Sam Hyde is a new name to me. What's his deal? "In 2017, Hyde reportedly pledged $5,000 towards Andrew Anglin's, the founder and editor of The Daily Stormer, legal defense fund. The Southern Poverty Law Center sued Anglin for allegedly organizing a "troll storm" against a Jewish woman in Montana. When Matt Pearce of the Los Angeles Times questioned Hyde about the donation, Hyde asked Pearce if he was Jewish and went on to say that $5,000 "was nothing" to him." They're also just a general dumbass.
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Goon Danton posted:Gonna be honest here, Sam Hyde is a new name to me. What's his deal? He's an alt-right racist "video prankster" who successfully got into Adult Swim's roster thanks to their drive for transgressive stoner humor. Hides heavily behind the usual "post-irony", "alt-comedy" and "performance artist" titles. Thankfully the company woke up, realized what was going on and appear to be cleaning house.
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Discendo Vox posted:This...might be the most uneven text I've ever read. Some parts are highly diagnostic of the precise internal mental world of people in the alt-right, but a lot of it is profoundly, horrifyingly ignorant. The philosopher who wrote the intro does a good job of emphasizing "sartre did no research before writing this text". From what I've seen, this is basically satre.txt. Got a link to the essay and intro by any chance? Or is this one of them "books" I've heard so much about
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Goon Danton posted:From what I've seen, this is basically satre.txt. Got a link to the essay and intro by any chance? Or is this one of them "books" I've heard so much about alas, tis a book. I'll see if the text is online. http://abahlali.org/files/Jean-Paul_Sartre_Anti-Semite_and_Jew_An_Exploration_of_the_Etiology_of_Hate__1995.pdf
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I'm a Math major and 90% of the mathematicians I know are Chill ladies or older left leaning Eastern European gentlemen who just want to have as little hassle as possible and talk about hosed up stories from their childhoods and why Math modelling is bullshit.
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Discendo Vox posted:He's an alt-right racist "video prankster" who successfully got into Adult Swim's roster thanks to their drive for transgressive stoner humor. Hides heavily behind the usual "post-irony", "alt-comedy" and "performance artist" titles. Thankfully the company woke up, realized what was going on and appear to be cleaning house. Yardbomb posted:"In 2017, Hyde reportedly pledged $5,000 towards Andrew Anglin's, the founder and editor of The Daily Stormer, legal defense fund. The Southern Poverty Law Center sued Anglin for allegedly organizing a "troll storm" against a Jewish woman in Montana. When Matt Pearce of the Los Angeles Times questioned Hyde about the donation, Hyde asked Pearce if he was Jewish and went on to say that $5,000 "was nothing" to him." Failing upwards, supporting open white supremacists behind the scenes, accusing anyone who questions him of being Jewish? Basically the ISO standard totally-not-Nazi then.
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Goon Danton posted:Gonna be honest here, Sam Hyde is a new name to me. What's his deal?
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Yardbomb posted:It's weird that a couple of you are going nuts over a picture of the Report of the Week kid from "know your meme" of all things. Tried finding that exchange which was obviously supposed to be from youtube, tried every mix and match of keywords and so on, most of the statement there, nothing came up. Tried finding the 4chins thread in the image on archives, nothing was there. The only peep I've ever even heard from them about politics was one time urging people to participate in their local elections. Someone noticed a Ben Garrison book in the background of some of his videos. This was before the Trump campaign though. He is likely a political conservative but doesn't make his channel about it. You don't have to excommunicate everyone just because they have differing opinions.
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Dmitri-9 posted:Someone noticed a Ben Garrison book in the background of some of his videos. This was before the Donald "Somebody's doing the raping" Trump campaign though. He is likely a political conservative but doesn't make his channel about it. You don't have to excommunicate everyone just because they have differing opinions. Not in this day and age.
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Groovelord Neato posted:right wing people are universally poo poo. Yeah differing opinions is me being friendly with anarchists. Tolerating conservatism is being friendly with a self identified shithead.
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Groovelord Neato posted:if you poo poo on "sjws" and talk with people with sargon and sam hyde in a friendly manner i'm going to question your motives. Sam Hyde, sure... but I think you can talk with Sargon because he doesn't as often just staring going "::insult:: ::shocking statement:: ::insult:: ::shocking statement::" etc... he just has dumb opinions. For example Contrapoints has been on his podcast.
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Differing opinions is one thing. I can talk with anarchists and marxists and progressive liberals because they all fundamentally agree that everyone is deserving of basic respect and dignity, they just disagree on the way to do that. But even saying nothing about straight up Nazis, modern conservatism demands, is built around, getting to pick and choose who deserves respect and dignity and who doesn't. That's not differing opinions, that's a fundamental rejection of basic morality. How do you get chummy with someone once they've crossed that line?
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