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homeowner | 39 | 22.41% | |
renter | 69 | 39.66% | |
stupid peace of poo poo | 66 | 37.93% | |
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exmarx posted:i crunched some numbers Where does the Maori party fall on that graph?
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# ? Oct 6, 2017 09:18 |
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Somfin posted:Where does the Maori party fall on that graph? What Mario party?
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# ? Oct 6, 2017 09:30 |
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Somfin posted:Where does the Maori party fall on that graph?
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# ? Oct 6, 2017 09:36 |
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Ghostlight posted:They're the blue dot. Huh, I was assuming they'd fallen off the graph on the 'anti-immigrant' axis due to their plan of actual slavery
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# ? Oct 6, 2017 09:39 |
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So in, like, an hour we find out whether Winston goes with National or if it is actually anyone's game? Or is that just when the results start coming out?
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 00:43 |
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That's when the special votes are in, and Winston's decision is going to be heavily informed by how that shakes out. At the same time, Winston's decision still isn't due for ages so don't get your hopes up.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 00:45 |
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I meant that if Lab/Green doesn't gain any seats after the specials I don't think there's any chance Winnie would go with them. A one seat majority is too tenuous.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 00:49 |
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He said he would announce by the 12th. Real negotiations won't start until specials are in.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 00:50 |
bike tory posted:So in, like, an hour we find out whether Winston goes with National or if it is actually anyone's game? We get the whole lot at once afaik (worth remembering that they've also spent the past couple of weeks re-counting all the votes too) the more seats labour/greens get, the stronger winston's position to negotiate with national. at least Golriz is guaranteed to get in
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 01:59 |
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Nats lose two seats, Lab/Green gain one each
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 02:02 |
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https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/final-election-results-special-votes-give-labour-and-greens-another-seat-each-national-loses-two e: that's quite the swing sebmojo fucked around with this message at 02:06 on Oct 7, 2017 |
# ? Oct 7, 2017 02:02 |
nice
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 02:03 |
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One be each for Labour and Green National down 2 Edit beaten like TOP
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 02:04 |
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Turnout up 2% on last election, only down slightly on althe recent high in 2005 e: looks like Labour were only ~5000 votes away from picking up a second seat from National. If labour do form a government they need to change the electoral act to allow same day registration voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 02:21 on Oct 7, 2017 |
# ? Oct 7, 2017 02:13 |
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Also Act got 10k votes and get a seat in parliament and maori and TOP got 3-4 times that amount and get none that should be addressed too
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 03:54 |
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Absolutely, but an overhaul of MMP is a lot more contentious than simply allowing people to register to vote on election day, and probably would've allowed about as many people to vote as voted for TOP. e: does anyone have a link to actual numbers on the special vote? I cbf reverse engineering it from the final total voiceless anal fricative fucked around with this message at 04:49 on Oct 7, 2017 |
# ? Oct 7, 2017 04:41 |
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I am happy to have MMP in the first place. Not oppose to tweaks but you got to be hella careful about it. Allowing registration on election day is pretty harmless given you can do this up to the day before. The biggest thing I want from MMP is massively increased education on know how MMP works so everyone can mock people arguing MMP is FPTP. Everyone who tries to argue the biggest party has the "Moral mandate" should be told "That is not how MMP works you stupid gently caress head" repeatedly and nothing else because every single one of them are doing it in bad faith.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 04:55 |
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https://www.reddit.com/r/newzealand/comments/74rwjz/comment/do0of83 This reddit comment has some numbers for specials. NZFirst and National did worse in specials everyone else looks like they did better.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 04:55 |
gently caress Duncan Garner https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/opinion/97625919/duncan-garner-dear-nz-how-do-we-want-to-look-in-20-years
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 05:08 |
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 05:17 |
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exmarx posted:gently caress Duncan Garner Holy poo poo that's probably the worst thing I've seen him write, and he's written some pretty egregious poo poo "None of what I say here in this column is intended to be racist or anti-foreigner." *Proceeds to be explicitly racist and anti-foreigber*
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 05:39 |
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bike tory posted:Holy poo poo that's probably the worst thing I've seen him write, and he's written some pretty egregious poo poo The first half of the article is near Trump like rambling I can't make heads or tails of barely related to the rest. It's a bit nationalistic and he constantly flies off on tangents. I can't disagree with the need for planning and should include immigration. But then he goes full on racist about Chinese out numbering Maori but I hate mainlanders and their BS so I don't want more of them. Yes, yes I bloody know this is a discriminatory thought crime but like hell am I going to base any vote or action based on this unless I am in Hong Kong or they gently caress with me which happen with a far higher rate than everyone else. It is a shockingly poorly written article for someone who should have far better than average command of the English language.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 06:01 |
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exmarx posted:gently caress Duncan Garner Mmm, "securing our future," huh? For "your" great-grandchildren? Who's great-grandchildren are you talking about there, Duncan? Because it sure isn't the great-grandchildren of any refugees. Why do you think that, Duncan Garner? Why should I be concerned about the future of my great-grandchildren, Duncan Garner? Why are you bringing them up in the same article where you're expressing very explicitly vague worries about non-white people? Do you think I'm a white person, Duncan Garner? Look, I'm not saying that those words are always a cryptofascist signifier. I'm just saying that when you're writing an anti-non-white diatribe you should probably make sure that there aren't any easy phrases that shitheads like me can pick out to say that you're throwing up a little over half of the 14 words. Because that's exactly what Duncan is doing. E: Duncan Garner, Stuff.co.nz commentator posted:Let's design our country to make it better for us. Bring in the people by all means but send them to where we need them. Let's not give them what they need from us so easily. What the gently caress is Duncan Garner referring to here Somfin fucked around with this message at 06:12 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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oohhboy posted:It is a shockingly poorly written article for someone who should have far better than average command of the English language. He's quite thick.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 06:21 |
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I for one am shocked that a white male nz newsreader is racist
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 06:34 |
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Marvellous
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 07:18 |
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What a tool. The important thing though is that when we have more "South Asians" than Māori (remind me when you have ever cared for their presence before, Duncan) is will they have the moral right to form a government??
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 16:45 |
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He's having a meltdown on twitter about it.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 22:33 |
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Duncan Garner posted:None of what I say here in this column is intended to be racist or anti-foreigner.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 23:01 |
Robo Captain posted:He's having a meltdown on twitter about it. What are the rules on twitter for bullying and abuse exactly? Asking for a friend.
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# ? Oct 7, 2017 23:41 |
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Ratios and Tendency posted:What are the rules on twitter for bullying and abuse exactly? Asking for a friend. I think it is covered under Judith Collins' harmful digital communications act. Actually we need a test case for the courts so go hog wild!
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 00:25 |
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quote:None of what I say here in this column is intended to be racist or anti-foreigner. Look, I'm not anti-foreigner, I'm just pro-Aryan. quote:The question is, where's the affordable homes? Answer, um we forgot to plan and build them. Sorry. Next time maybe. Oh things have gone to poo poo because for the last decade the government failed to do their literal job correctly. Instead of placing blame where it's due better pre-emptively blame labour for not creating a new senior position to fix everything.
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 00:25 |
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Link the tweets or screenshots at least for those of us who aren't on Twitter. Also I'm glad my vote was finally counted and it made a difference!
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 00:26 |
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NZAmoeba posted:Link the tweets or screenshots at least for those of us who aren't on Twitter. Yeah, those special votes were loving wreckage. Blissful silence from so many of the usual mouthbreathers. NZ Young Nats have gone radio silent. I was anticipating maybe 1 flip from National into like NZ First or whatever, but 2 flips from National to both of the parties I wanted to win is pretty exciting stuff. And yeah, all I could dig up in his twitter were some increasingly frustrated "google it"s so links to the meltdown proper would be appreciated
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 00:39 |
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Goodbye twitter haters. The putrid vile smell of twitter bile is laid out at the very bottom. Just a few examples of the intolerance, hatred and madness when a very small bunch of permanently aggrieved groupies start violently punching their keyboard. It's an awfully angry, abusive and ultimately sad little hangout from hell. And it's got angrier. And more feral. I've been told to 'suck a dick, that I'm a 'c @"& and a f@ukwjt. I usually genuinely enjoy interaction online and it's good that journos and the public can reach out and talk and get conversations going. That's who I am. I pride myself on accessibility and being approachable and genuine unlike so many who simply couldn't give a toss. Calling me a racist bitch is lazy and lame and clearly it shows people don't know me at all. Nor do they have any idea about my life. Twitter here is an angry child full of self-appointed wana-be intellectuals that believe they're truly superior. But many of these people hide cowardly behind anonymity. Gutless. These people are abusers, verbal abusers. So I am out. I will use the extra time on myself and kids. No problem there. I have no intention of hanging around and will leave twitter as soon as I hit the dump button. Facebook comments recently have been nasty too. Last week a truly horrid man on FB attacked Ingrid Hipkiss's ankles. What a prick. The list goes on. I'd never welcome that into my house so why should I let it into my life at all. Immigration, population and planning is crucial and we have to get it right. I stand by all that. This week is mental health week and online bullying is rife in NZ but seriously some people on twitter need to review how they engage before they do some serious damage. The totally inaccurate assumptions on twitter today were just hopeless and when you point that out they point to something else. Twitter lost me today because twitter and its people have no idea about me and my bi-lingual kohanga and Kura kids, the immigrant neighbourhood I live in and my boy's school where 55 languages are spoken and my wife is dedicated to the mainly immigrant community as a teacher aide - she treats and loves all those kids and new arrivals with total love and warmth. And they are my son's friends. Good bye twitter and the angry aliens that populate your echo chamber. I suggest you book yourself in for anger management counselling. I've done it. I hope you're humble enough to look in the mirror and think about your approach. Are you being the best version of yourself? Bye. I refuse to post the c-bomb one. Twitter hate: This below is from the @selfcarebastard (so bravely and cowardly anonymous) oh hello @DuncanGarnerNZ you racist little bitch This serial offender - Giovanni Tiso While I'm here, and I know it's been touched upon, but speaking as an immigrant, and with all due respect: @DuncanGarnerNZ, go gently caress yourself @snarkymcsnarkface (another gutless anonymous tough guy) calls me a white supremacist Really running the white supremacy lines strong today Tat
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 01:03 |
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Someone needs a safe space
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 01:04 |
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https://twitter.com/DuncanGarnerNZ/status/916691277470560256 snowflakes altright garner confirmed
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 01:06 |
yeah apparently there's a ton of nz neo-nazis, cool cool cool. including this guy, who's a friend of Mike Sabin: https://twitter.com/Methcon
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 01:17 |
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The best part of the twitter harrassment are the Asian people tweeting selfies to Duncan Garner of them in lines at shops.
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# ? Oct 8, 2017 01:30 |
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https://thespinoff.co.nz/media/08-10-2017/duncan-garner-went-buy-undies-at-k-mart-and-came-back-in-agony-for-nzs-soul/
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