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Star Man posted:There's a Ramunap deck in Modern? 5 Forest 1 Gavony Township 4 Ghost Quarter 2 Horizon Canopy 2 Misty Rainforest 2 Plains 2 Temple Garden 4 Windswept Heath 1 Wooded Foothills 1 Azusa, Lost but Seeking 3 Birds of Paradise 4 Collected Company 4 Courser of Kruphix 1 Eternal Witness 2 Kitchen Finks 4 Knight of the Reliquary 4 Noble Hierarch 4 Path to Exile 2 Ramunap Excavator 2 Scavenging Ooze 1 Selfless Spirit 1 Tireless Tracker 4 Voice of Resurgence Sideboard: 1 Aven Mindcensor 1 Blessed Alliance 1 Bojuka Bog 1 Eidolon of Rhetoric 1 Engineered Explosives 1 Kataki, War's Wage 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence 1 Qasali Pridemage 1 Reclamation Sage 1 Selfless Spirit 1 Sigarda, Host of Herons 2 Stony Silence 1 Surgical Extraction 1 Whisperwood Elemental It's been popping up here and there, the last time I went to Modern FNM the winner was running this or something very close to it.
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C-Euro posted:How were the matches against Tron and the Ramunap deck? I thought Spirits was a dog to big mana decks, and I'm about to finish that Ramunap deck and need to know what to watch for when I play our local Spirits guy. Spirits is good against classic tron variants but less good against eldrazi tron. Just remember to not over commit to the board while maintaining a clock. I’ve seen the all in on herald lists before and it has potential but I’m still on the 3 Geist 1 Kira plan. Added worship and 2x eidolon to the board.
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C-Euro posted:It's been popping up here and there, the last time I went to Modern FNM the winner was running this or something very close to it. I may have completely forgotten about Ramunap Excavator and was thinking there was some kind of Ramunap Red deck in Modern now. God I need to move to a place with a Modern scene.
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C-Euro posted:How were the matches against Tron and the Ramunap deck? I thought Spirits was a dog to big mana decks, and I'm about to finish that Ramunap deck and need to know what to watch for when I play our local Spirits guy. I expected the tron matchup to be bad but it turns out that you have a good enough clock to pressure them, and you can dance around a lot of their sorcery speed haymakers with your flash creatures. You also have a lot of nice sideboard options against them: stony silence is great, and a fast curve of creatures followed by hitting their first payoff card with unified will wins a lot of games. The GW value/ghost quarter company match is all about getting damage in with fliers while protecting your creatures from path. They gain a lot of life and gum up the ground really hard, but you can still expect to kill them pretty quickly if things are going according to plan. Double captain almost wins on the spot. Nebelghast herald made it hard for them to either race or block with birds of paradise. Spell queller hitting their company is a blowout, but my opponent played around that really well. Hope the opponent doesn't blow up all your lands early on, that's how I lost one of the games. Voice of resurgence is good against you, that's probably your highest priority path target after a big knight of the reliquary. I might try to fit in a copy of Kira, it's definitely a good card. uninverted fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Oct 7, 2017 |
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Star Man posted:I may have completely forgotten about Ramunap Excavator and was thinking there was some kind of Ramunap Red deck in Modern now. 8 Whack should be able to run 4 Ramunap Ruins.
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If any of our wonderful legacy players would like to give me worthwhile advice on a list I would greatly appreciate it. I have been trying to get ready for DC and for some more local events in my area and just finished my list https://deckstats.net/decks/77592/825627-4c-loam. Thanks in advance
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wiskibubbles posted:If any of our wonderful legacy players would like to give me worthwhile advice on a list I would greatly appreciate it. I have been trying to get ready for DC and for some more local events in my area and just finished my list I think only 3 bob is a mistake, should be playing 4. I also really like sylvan safekeeper as a zenith target to save your guys. I like more canonists and priests in the board to fight sneak and show/storm. I wouldnt play kaya, she is too slow and bad, even though I love the card.
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L0cke17 posted:I think only 3 bob is a mistake, should be playing 4. I also really like sylvan safekeeper as a zenith target to save your guys. I like more canonists and priests in the board to fight sneak and show/storm. I wouldnt play kaya, she is too slow and bad, even though I love the card. The reason its 3 is i only own 3 currently I guess if I do pull the kaya I could probably try to get my hands on another bob or turn her into a Lili been toying with the idea of a last hope in the kaya slot
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I don't really know anything about 4c Loam, but a GSZ deck without Deathrite feels strange.
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Elyv posted:I don't really know anything about 4c Loam, but a GSZ deck without Deathrite feels strange. Its actually not that good in the deck. Plus youre a 4 chalice deck with diamonds. Also the mana effect and damage effect is pretty mediocre when you want to be loaming all your lands and all your spells can be recurred, so youre dependent on your opponents graveyard only.
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L0cke17 posted:Its actually not that good in the deck. Plus youre a 4 chalice deck with diamonds. Also the mana effect and damage effect is pretty mediocre when you want to be loaming all your lands and all your spells can be recurred, so youre dependent on your opponents graveyard only. I've seen a lot of versions of the deck run a singleton to GSZ for but idk if Scooze isn't close to better for that purpose
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L0cke17 posted:Its actually not that good in the deck. Plus youre a 4 chalice deck with diamonds. Also the mana effect and damage effect is pretty mediocre when you want to be loaming all your lands and all your spells can be recurred, so youre dependent on your opponents graveyard only. There are some versions that run a 1 of DRS but I bypassed that for an excavator due to the fact that once you chalice the DRS is a dead card in your hand. The deck is basically chalice of the void or DRS
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On a scale of 0 to -10, how good is Dredge in Vintage in October of 2017?
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Dredge is always -10. Friends don't let friends play dredge.
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EvilBeard posted:Dredge is always -10. Friends don't let friends play dredge. But it's ~*~ChEaP~*~
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Star Man posted:On a scale of 0 to -10, how good is Dredge in Vintage in October of 2017? I just got beaten by dredge in the top 2 of a 21 man vintage event a couple weeks ago. It's real. Hollow one boosted the decks playability.
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L0cke17 posted:I just got beaten by dredge in the top 2 of a 21 man vintage event a couple weeks ago. It's real. Hollow one boosted the decks playability. I just ask because I think of it as the "budget" deck for Vintage. You spend around $2,500 for a set of Bazaar of Baghdad and the rest of the deck costs something like $300.
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Star Man posted:I just ask because I think of it as the "budget" deck for Vintage. You spend around $2,500 for a set of Bazaar of Baghdad and the rest of the deck costs something like $300. I would not buy in unless you really like it.
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Tried mono-white eldrazi taxes at a small pptq this weekend, only 5 rounds. Only went 3-2, but each of my losses were in game 3 and both were literally topdeck "draw card x or die" situations- the burn player had to draw exactly boros charm to not lose next turn and did, and the grixis control player had to draw exactly snapcaster mage for a k-command to both have a blocker and kill both parts of blade splicer or die the next turn. Feels bad, but thems the beats. Did feel nice knowing that the deck was solid enough to have won any of those games. I did play storm twice, and that matchup is always such a joke that it's worth playing the deck at comp events. I've never lost to storm at a comp event while playing taxes and there's always a decent number of storm players around.
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L0cke17 posted:I would not buy in unless you really like it. I would never buy into any Vintage deck without a decent job to fund it and a Vintage scene to play in. And I have neither of those things.
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Can I suggest option C: Don't spend $2,500 on 4 magic cards.
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uPen posted:Can I suggest option C: Don't spend $2,500 on 4 magic cards. Unless it's 3x Drop of Honey, and a Tabernacle.
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Star Man posted:I just ask because I think of it as the "budget" deck for Vintage. You spend around $2,500 for a set of Bazaar of Baghdad and the rest of the deck costs something like $300. as a newcomer to the thread I am suddenly relieved I play modern
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Omar al-Bishie posted:as a newcomer to the thread I am suddenly relieved I play modern I doubt that I'll ever be able to get back into Legacy since the price of dual lands is loving outrageous and the reserved list will never be abolishes. But I can't even get Modern to fire here despite the fact that people poured a ton of cash into MM3 drafts.
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Omar al-Bishie posted:as a newcomer to the thread I am suddenly relieved I play modern The extra money is absolutely worth it for how much more fun and interesting the format is, especially compared to modern.
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uPen posted:Can I suggest option C: Don't spend $2,500 on 4 magic cards. Option D: Play at a place that allows some proxies. Most every shop I know that runs legacy tournaments allow 5 - 10 proxies. And dredge is super fun in every format its legal in. 
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AlternateNu posted:Option D: Play at a place that allows some proxies. Most every shop I know that runs legacy tournaments allow 5 - 10 proxies. As Long as your dredge deck runs mana sources its fun
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the old Hollywood manaless dredge that ground people out with nether spirits and ashen ghouls and poo poo was really cool and fun
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Meeting a friend for FNM this week and letting him borrow Mill since he wants to build it too, which means it's time to experiment with my RG Breach deck! Deck: RG Breach 171010   //Lands 2 Cinder Glade 2 Forest 6 Mountain 4 Stomping Ground 4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle 3 Windswept Heath 4 Wooded Foothills //Spells 4 Farseek 2 Hour of Promise 3 Lightning Bolt 4 Search for Tomorrow 3 Summoner's Pact 1 Sweltering Suns 4 Through the Breach //Creatures 1 Courser of Kruphix 1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 4 Primeval Titan 4 Sakura-Tribe Elder 3 Simian Spirit Guide 1 Woodfall Primus //Sideboard 2 Anger of the Gods 1 Chameleon Colossus 2 Grafdigger's Cage 2 Obstinate Baloth 2 Reclamation Sage 2 Relic of Progenitus 1 Sudden Shock 2 Summoning Trap 1 Tireless Tracker  Display deck statisticsThe biggest changes are taking out two Emrakul and leaning more into the Valakut combo with Hour of Promise, and trying out SSG (which I've seen in some builds of the deck) in place of some other ramp. I could go either way on Bolt, it's still relevant at my usual store but I'm going to a new store this week and don't know what to expect. I miss having extra Baloths or Emrakuls maindeck which could take the place of Bolts, as well as Relic of Progenitus which a lot of Valakut builds run maindeck. I'm also not married to a few of the SB cards, and also want to try out a couple copies of Hour of Devastation which I think will be the new hotness if people start running with the new planeswalker rule. Thoughts on the deck? E: Also I really want to turn a single Mountain into a Blood Crypt so I can run Slaughter Games in the board, someone talk me out of this. C-Euro fucked around with this message at 05:09 on Oct 12, 2017 |
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This is what I'm currently cooking with: Deck: Breach Titan //Lands 3 Bloodstained Mire 4 Cinder Glade 2 Forest 4 Mountain 4 Stomping Ground 4 Valakut, the Molten Pinnacle 4 Wooded Foothills //Spells 4 Farseek 2 Hour of Promise 4 Search for Tomorrow 4 Summoner's Pact 3 Sweltering Suns 4 Through the Breach //Creatures 1 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn 2 Obstinate Baloth 4 Primeval Titan 4 Sakura-Tribe Elder 2 Wood Elves 1 Woodfall Primus //Sideboard 2 Ancient Grudge 1 Destructive Revelry 2 Grafdigger's Cage 1 Pithing Needle 1 Relic of Progenitus 1 Shatterstorm 2 Spellskite 3 Summoning Trap 2 Thragtusk Display deck statistics
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Should I hold off on getting a playset of Future Sight edition Horizon Canopies until next month or just get them now for ~$60 each?
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Star Man posted:Should I hold off on getting a playset of Future Sight edition Horizon Canopies until next month or just get them now for ~$60 each? It ought to drop a good amount; they're printing it at rare. I also want a copy and I'm going to wait.
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2 weeks after whatever it's called Masters releases. That's when everyone will have opened their boxes and stores will have sold out.
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suicidesteve posted:2 weeks after whatever it's called Masters releases. That's when everyone will have opened their boxes and stores will have sold out. My FLGS owner in my little town isn't a scumbag, so we'll be drafting the set for a good month or two at $30 per draft. But I want the Future Sight edition, not the Iconic Masters edition, of Horizon Canopy.
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EvilBeard posted:This is what I'm currently cooking with: If I don't like the SSGs I'll probably go back to something close to this. I really like Baloth and thinking about it now I'm kind of tempted to go -1 Courser -1 SSG and bring 2x Baloth back in. That would also give me room in the SB for those two Slaughter Games I mentioned earlier I had Destructive Revelry as artifact/enchantment hate in the past but switched to RecSages at one point, do you like the Revelry a lot?
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I just need it for Blood Moon mainly. I have Primus now too. It's fine. It could be a Grip, but I find being cheaper to be relevant sometimes.
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