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quote:whats your ideology? quote:There's no established ideology that I fully support. Some secular conservative ideology that borrows aspects of Abrahamic religions (community, less female rights), but also supports science and acknowledges scientific facts (black/red pill facts, climate change) would be ideal. But right now we have on the left degenerate liberals who acknowledge scientific facts like climate change but deny the black/red pill, are gynocentric etc. and on the right we have conservatives which have better community, are a bit less degenerate but still far too liberal and deny scientific facts. Although the conservatives are more open to red pill facts, but not most of the black pill.
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Ok so these guys are gonna start killing women and loving their corpses
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Oct 7, 2017 16:02
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loving of course they think redpill is science and not classic loving pseudoscience
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Oct 7, 2017 16:04
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ikanreed posted:I will never not laugh at IQ obsessed losers. In fact, IQ is not a function of liquid intelligence. It is a function of arrogance.
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Oct 7, 2017 16:05
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quote:some people is too dumb to have freedom Likely the most powerful self own I have seen today
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green chicken feet posted:It needs to be taught in school that there is more than one form of intelligence. The focus on test-taking, especially multiple-choice tests which often require little beyond rote memorization, leads some kids astray. They think they're smarter then kids with higher social or emotional intelligence - things that aren't measured through such testing. Normies are not "dumb all around". Yeah, I think everyone has met people who are "book smart" but not much else. Like I know one guy who is doing fantastically academically because he applies himself and can cram in information pretty well. But it's funny when he tries to use his intelligence in other ways especially when talking about stuff like politics. He seems incapable of using his own logic and pretty much learns political arguments (currently tankie but used to be libtard) by rote. He then thinks knowing facts and arguments before others makes him smarter. Oh, and he's got very poor social skills wouldn't you know. Honestly if it hasn't been for Tinder and a willingness to lower his standards he'd probably be a card-carrying incel.
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Oct 7, 2017 16:23
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Shove WMAF couples down the drain. Unfriend them from Facebook. Cut social contact from them. (self.aznidentity)quote:Every white guy watches WMAF raceplay porn and talks poo poo about Asian penises all the time. Stop being the 'niceguy' have a backbone for once in your life and challenge them. They've offended you and you have lost face. Now do something about it. Never sit with them or work with them. You are so worried that you'll be called some jealous insecure loser after the fact you ratted them out. Let their insults fly out. a reply to a deleted comment posted:I already do this, even if they stated they have in the past. /r/incels: I wouldn't mind having a lifeless (still alive) female body laying around
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Oct 7, 2017 16:30
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I don't know how AM should objectively have the highest social status in the world when FM has much better sound quality.
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Ghostlight posted:I don't know how AM should objectively have the highest social status in the world when FM has much better sound quality. 
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Ghostlight posted:I don't know how AM should objectively have the highest social status in the world when FM has much better sound quality. B-but muh simple demodulator design and lower bandwidth requirements!
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Benny Harvey posted:Yeah, I think everyone has met people who are "book smart" but not much else.
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Oct 7, 2017 20:04
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Those reddit incels aren't some super intelligent academics too socially inept to find a partner. They've been proving over and over that they have poor knowledge and cognitive skills. They come off as people not better in those areas than your average Joe but the average Joe at least showers.
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Palpek posted:Those reddit incels aren't some super intelligent academics too socially inept to find a partner. They've been proving over and over that they have poor knowledge and cognitive skills. They come off as people not better in those areas than your average Joe but the average Joe at least showers. Even people who are slow learners can apply themselves and become educated and informed decision makers. Incels just let their brains rot on pseudofacts.
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Oct 7, 2017 22:24
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Palpek posted:Those reddit incels aren't some super intelligent academics too socially inept to find a partner. They've been proving over and over that they have poor knowledge and cognitive skills. They come off as people not better in those areas than your average Joe but the average Joe at least showers. your average joe showers, isn't a raging misogynist, and has a sense of humor that isn't grounded in references, internet memes, and bigotry
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Here's another thing I just noticed about incels: They are terrified of cheating. They truly believe that all woman will instantly cheat on their "normie" boyfriends. Is it insecurity? Is it their belief in the desirability of Chad? As in "well I want to gently caress him, so obviously she does." Is it their belief that women are sub human creatures driven only by their desire to gently caress? Also, this speaks to their belief in the possessiveness of men over women, and in relationships. They believe that once a couple is going out with one another, the man owns the woman, and therefore controls her behavior. But if she does anything independently, then she is automatically cheating, and automatically bad. And on the intelligence thing: I reckon it has a lot to do with computers. Back in the 50s if you were good with computers then you were by definition smart, because you had to be to understand the electronics, and engineering etc. involved. But now, even the dumbest motherfucker can work with and be an expert in computers and the internet. But this dumb motherfucker still thinks he is smart coz he knows/can play with computers, coz the stink of "computer geek - egghead" from decades ago hasn't worn off. Add the social isolation and probable awkwardness of an internet shut in, then you have someone who thinks they are the smartest coolest most with it person, and everyone else is dumb and doesn't understand.
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Oct 8, 2017 05:44
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It really doesn't help that the majority of women they see with any regularity are porn and exhibition - related.
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Oct 8, 2017 05:49
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BrigadierSensible posted:Back in the 50s if you were good with computers then you were by definition smart, because you had to be to understand the electronics, and engineering etc. involved. Originally computing was seen as an offshoot from secretarial work, and was considered low-paid women's work. It wasn't until managers realised how much power the company's computer engineer had that they decided it was actually obviously highly-skilled men's work.
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HazCat posted:Originally computing was seen as an offshoot from secretarial work, and was considered low-paid women's work. Data entry maybe, when typewriters were phased out by desktops, but I don't buy that computer programming/engineering was widely seen as women's work. My view of the makeup of r/incels is a third really terrible misogynistic trolls actively fanning the flames, a third awkward teens and preteens not dealing with puberty well, and the rest a mishmash of older bitter failsons who missed the socialization boat somehow, culturally or biologically.
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theflyingexecutive posted:Data entry maybe, when typewriters were phased out by desktops, but I don't buy that computer programming/engineering was widely seen as women's work. I would make the correction that the misogyny is inherent in like 99% of them, the remaining 1% being the ones who have not been in the crab bucket long enough to be poisoned yet. Missing social development milestones (for lack of a better term) or being in the midst of when you develop those is definitely a common thread, though.
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BrigadierSensible posted:Here's another thing I just noticed about incels: Porn is loving fixated on cheating, presumably because the only people paying for porn these days are middle aged dudes who fantasise about cheating or get cheated on, and incels follow.
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Oct 8, 2017 08:08
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I can almost sympathize with them because after I broke up with a girlfriend in high school she became really promiscuous and a percentage of young women I've known like to hook up with attractive guys on the down low whenever they feel like it, and it is hard to accept at first.. ...but it's one of those things that isn't morally wrong and completely out of your control. So unless you can let go and stop making sex and the approval of women your focal point for self-esteem you'll end up like, well these creeps.
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theflyingexecutive posted:Data entry maybe, when typewriters were phased out by desktops, but I don't buy that computer programming/engineering was widely seen as women's work. Computer programming was primarily women's work for years. Here is the first result for googling "was programming seen as women's work". And here's the second and the third, in case you'd like to learn about how women pioneered computer programming.
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theflyingexecutive posted:Data entry maybe, when typewriters were phased out by desktops, but I don't buy that computer programming/engineering was widely seen as women's work.
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NO gently caress YOU DAD posted:It's porn OP. Their entire view of women - hell, their entire view of the world - is based around porn. It's also probably just simple projecting. They're desperate to gently caress absolutely anyone (or probably anything), and they can't comprehend that others don't have a constant mantra of "gotta gently caress gotta gently caress gotta gently caress" ruining through their heads. They don't actually have real standards, and they don't understand that others can have them either. They think they understand standards, but if you look more closely everything is about excuses of why they can't get laid, and their own stated standards (which they would never follow in private) are simply in retaliation toward what they think is being applied towards them. Incels have no concept whatsoever of desire or compatibility, or the lack thereof
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Oct 8, 2017 11:50
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BrigadierSensible posted:Here's another thing I just noticed about incels: It's just an excuse. "She'd cheat on me one day anyway, so why bother? Much easier to just hate all women and call them sluts." Like some other poster ITT said earlier, it's no surprise these guys are complete failures in other aspects of their life, from hygiene to work - they think the world owes them a dick massage at no effort of their own and drat anyone who says otherwise.
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mind the walrus posted:I can almost sympathize with them because after I broke up with a girlfriend in high school she became really promiscuous and a percentage of young women I've known like to hook up with attractive guys on the down low whenever they feel like it, and it is hard to accept at first.. I can understand why poo poo like this pisses off the ex-BFs, but it helps a great deal to understand the girls who wind up doing that almost always have absolutely lovely self-esteem. In short, the reason they do that has to do with what matters to them (and them thinking that's going to fix it, even if train-boning very rarely actually does that, it just leaves you a more confused mess) - and not what matters to the idiotic imagination of the incel that just got dumped or whatever...of course, god forbid an incel starts to consider what other people might want, it's all about what he wants. So in his mind, that girl that's promiscuous isn't going through her own version of self-inflicted suffering, no - she's just being a slut and enjoying every minute of getting laid unlike POOR ME who's a guy and will never get laid again boo-loving-hoo!! CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 12:23 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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Well that's just it. They're a generation of boys taught that they're the protagonist of their lives and by extension the world, and can't reconcile that latent narcissistic value with the realities of life. I was lucky to be broken of that mentality when I was young. Incels have created an ouroboros of septic affirmations that has them running nowhere and fast. I don't know about girls that like casual sex all having rock bottom self-esteem though. Some must by law of averages, but whatever their underlying reason it's their choice and has poo poo all to do with me or my approval.
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mind the walrus posted:I don't know about girls that like casual sex all having rock bottom self-esteem though. Some must by law of averages, but whatever their underlying reason it's their choice and has poo poo all to do with me or my approval. All female sexuality is pathological in origin when you're on the internet
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lazorexplosion posted:Why are incels more intelligent than normies? Possible reasons in thread: This is an insignificant point to comment on but we have a lot of research that suggests that risk taking behaviour has an association with high intelligence. The best theories we have are that being intelligence can result in both cognitive biases that make us underestimate how dangerous a risky behaviour is, as well as a need for stimulation and a stronger desire for novel experiences. Surveys among highly intelligent people, for example, show higher rates of things like drug experimentation and much higher numbers of sexual partners and willingness to engage in risky sexual behaviour. There's media articles online where journalists have attended things like Mensa conferences and found they were denied entry to the social events; after sneaking in, they found out that these events were barely-disguised drug-fuelled orgies.
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CrazyLoon posted:I can understand why poo poo like this pisses off the ex-BFs, but it helps a great deal to understand the girls who wind up doing that almost always have absolutely lovely self-esteem. In short, the reason they do that has to do with what matters to them (and them thinking that's going to fix it, even if train-boning very rarely actually does that, it just leaves you a more confused mess) - and not what matters to the idiotic imagination of the incel that just got dumped or whatever...of course, god forbid an incel starts to consider what other people might want, it's all about what he wants. So in his mind, that girl that's promiscuous isn't going through her own version of self-inflicted suffering, no - she's just being a slut and enjoying every minute of getting laid unlike POOR ME who's a guy and will never get laid again boo-loving-hoo!! That sure is a weird, sex-negative diatribe you're going on there. There's a lot of posters ITT who think like incels but pretend not to.
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Osama Dozen-Dongs posted:That sure is a weird, sex-negative diatribe you're going on there. There's a lot of posters ITT who think like incels but pretend not to. That sure is colossally missing the context in which I phrased it - being specifically promiscuous AFTER breaking up. BTW, I apply this to guys as much as girls. But if you think boning people fast and loose right after a break up is the best way to get rid of the soul-crushing feelings that come at that point, your thoughts might be a lot closer to that of incels, who magically think sex equals happiness, than mine. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 14:24 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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quote:If women supposedly like "interesting" guys, then why am I incel? "Beep boop, I present to you my résumé, dear female. Do you find me attractive? Beep boop."
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Being in uniform or being a professional musician is more than enough for regular people so I would love to see this guy try to talk to a woman
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Shanghaied posted:"Beep boop, I present to you my résumé, dear female. Do you find me attractive? Beep boop." That first and last sentence, really, sum this poo poo up even better than the inevitable woman-hating inbetween. I just can't get over how dumb the term itself is, and yet it explains the core problem of the mentality perfectly. The only reason it's 'involuntary' celibacy is because these sad sacks wouldn't 'volunteer' to put the work in getting out of it. Or put any work in anything else that'd make them happy and fulfilled for that matter. CrazyLoon fucked around with this message at 14:42 on Oct 8, 2017 |
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The other thing with cheating is that it plugs a hole in the fantasy. So many of these guys want to have casual sex with a woman who's devoted and dedicated and etc. In other words exactly the kind of woman who probably does NOT want casual sex. Nothing on any incel board I've ever seen, even the ones that are supportive, ever allowed for someone wanting to get married first. Cheating plugs the hole. "We don't have to think about women who don't want premarital sex because there are none."
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Well, those things look absolutely fine for a résumé, especially for someone fresh out of high school or in their early twenties. They are just not really the things people look for in a partner ordinarily. Like when was the last time you thought "man, I wish I'm with a girls who's in the NHS" or "drat she has 3.9 GPA, so hot". The fact that he thinks those things alone would make him attractive certainly suggest that he has some, uh, issues.
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quote:I am loving living proof that height > everything else combined.
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quote:"He doesn't look like a leader" Boohooo, I was earning 40k fresh out of uni, and I got a 5k raise after one year. Why am I not promoted after my first year? Life is so unfair for us manlets!
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