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C. Everett Koop posted:Black people have always loved Asian stuff. Wu-Tang, for example. that's just good taste tbh
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Grondoth posted:They're tweeting those photos cause they're trying to say the dude was unjustly fired Is he? I genuinely can't tell, his tweets about it are too incoherent to tell what he's actually trying to say.
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nobody likes Stranger Things that much anecdotally this is definitely not true. people who were born in 1990 loving love mid-80s nostalgia poo poo for some reason
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nobody likes Stranger Things that much I thought it was pretty good.
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Sir Tonk posted:they sent like twenty sauce things to each location that offered it, which was like a third of the locations in each city. A bunch of smug nerds who look down on McDonald's and wanted the enjoyment of making minimum-wage workers part of their stupid circle-jerk joke?
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nobody likes Stranger Things that much it was really good. you used to mod games lol
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FactsAreUseless posted:Nobody likes Stranger Things that much The cast endorsing the punching of Nazis very publicly seems like a good reason to like Stranger Things, imo.
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Dapper_Swindler posted:christmann can loving blow me because of poo poo like this. i usually like his stuff and find him somewhat insightful, but his whole "all art/media is reactionary and should be gone because muh perpetual revolution" gently caress off, let people have their loving bread and circus. just because he is a miserable gently caress doesnt mean everyone should be. its why i like felix better. because he is clever and funny and can have fun. so he thinks the worker needs only bread, no roses allowed?
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Art is reactionary because the commodity form limits the scope of what art can deal with in political terms, which typically exploits nostalgia for an old world that wasn't as great as remembered, or affirms the normalcy of liberal capitalism as an eternal present. Even art that acknowledges the awful conditions of the lived experience isn't capable of making the leap to a revolutionary mindset or politics, in order to satisfy the money men and market sensibilities. "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism." And scho on and scho on.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Art is reactionary because the commodity form limits the scope of what art can deal with in political terms, which typically exploits nostalgia for an old world that wasn't as great as remembered, or affirms the normalcy of liberal capitalism as an eternal present. Even art that acknowledges the awful conditions of the lived experience isn't capable of making the leap to a revolutionary mindset or politics, in order to satisfy the money men and market sensibilities. "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism." And scho on and scho on. maybe visual art but musical arts have absolutely done this yes some musical art forms are absolutely there to make capital more money but there also exists music that is trying to push the mindsets of it's listeners towards a revolutionary mindset or at least push them further along than the listener was prior to hearing it
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:Art is reactionary because the commodity form limits the scope of what art can deal with in political terms, which typically exploits nostalgia for an old world that wasn't as great as remembered, or affirms the normalcy of liberal capitalism as an eternal present. Even art that acknowledges the awful conditions of the lived experience isn't capable of making the leap to a revolutionary mindset or politics, in order to satisfy the money men and market sensibilities. "It is easier to imagine the end of the world than it is to imagine the end of capitalism." And scho on and scho on. if you're interested, there's a podcast called no cartridge where matt decribes his disdain for art and games:- https://www.no-cartridge.net/?name=2017-05-26_ep23.mp3 And shortly afterwards a middle eastern dude directly responded to matt that games and animation CAN push people into a change-driven mindset:- https://www.no-cartridge.net/?name=2017-07-06_ep31.mp3 so maybe this would be interesting for you to listen to.
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i think socialism in america will probably have a hard enough time of it without making "art is counterrevolutionary" the party line
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Narrative is often open-ended rather than encouraging or endorsing a particular worldview. Narratives do have particular world-views built into them, but that doesn't account for the totality of the text or what ideas might live there despite the premises on which they are built. Just because something is bought and sold doesn't mean that its politics are inevitably subverted by capitalism. It's more accurate to say that art doesn't have much to do with political change at all and is mostly just a tool to think with in pleasurable ways. The English romantics and the 60s hosed it all up by making the two seem much more closely linked than they are.
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Badger of Basra posted:so he thinks the worker needs only bread, no roses allowed? Look we need to work together to make a world where workers are united, have strong rights, fair pay, and fair hours so that they may pursue the enrichment of the soul instead of burning it away with endless grind. Unless you're using your free time to make or enjoy art or media the you can go gently caress yourself. I think Matt's overall a p. smart guy, but BOY he's a joyless sack of poo poo and that makes him kind of gently caress up on the whole 'empathizing with other humans' part of community.
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Al-Saqr posted:if you're interested, there's a podcast called no cartridge where matt decribes his disdain for art and games:- I listened to both of them and they both have good points, but the reason video games were world view expanding in Saudi is because the religious authorities didn't realize that they should have been censoring them for social and political content. What most people are talking about in terms of progressive works is in terms of their own culture, and Saudi is already one of the most reactionary societies on the planet as it is. I'm keeping this strictly tied to the commodity form because it's markets that determine what the masses actually have access to. Gringostar posted:maybe visual art but musical arts have absolutely done this It's not like it's absolutely impossible for there to be revolutionary art, the issue is that it's impossible to make a living on it. The Political Ideology Catgirls artist, for instance, had to discontinue the comic that made her popular in the first place because even that kind of niche appeal won't pay the bills - and she had to move on to a project that had more market appeal. Capitalism places severe limitations on the expression of art, and only those who are already rich can actually afford to be avant-garde or do something that's challenging to the status quo.
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who is this matt chrisman rear end in a top hat and why does anyone care about his dumb joyless shitsack opinions let alone take them seriously
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:It's not like it's absolutely impossible for there to be revolutionary art, the issue is that it's impossible to make a living on it. The Political Ideology Catgirls artist, for instance, had to discontinue the comic that made her popular in the first place because even that kind of niche appeal won't pay the bills - and she had to move on to a project that had more market appeal. Capitalism places severe limitations on the expression of art, and only those who are already rich can actually afford to be avant-garde or do something that's challenging to the status quo. this i agree with which is why it's loving disgusting when the right bitches about the government supporting art since they (the right) absolutely want it to be the privilege of the rich public murals of 19'th century unions fighting capital or ones of john brown or ones of runaway slaves are very much a thing that owns though and it should absolutely be looked at as a failure of the past left that things like that aren't more wide spread throughout the US
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:who is this matt chrisman rear end in a top hat and why does anyone care about his dumb joyless shitsack opinions let alone take them seriously he's one of the chapos
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:who is this matt chrisman rear end in a top hat and why does anyone care about his dumb joyless shitsack opinions let alone take them seriously He's not for you.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:who is this matt chrisman rear end in a top hat and why does anyone care about his dumb joyless shitsack opinions let alone take them seriously he is one of the chapo, he is pretty cool and good and funny most of the time but he can be a joyless shitsack alot. which makes him the opposite of felix.
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Honestly I can't help but wonder if the backlash by people like Christman against art and media as a reactionary force has something to do with the popularity and influence of this supreme jackass over the last decade https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Creativ...=creative+class
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Matt Christman is like a fantasy paladin in that he's filled with righteousness but sometimes it prevents him from having fun.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Matt Christman is like a fantasy paladin in that he's filled with righteousness but sometimes it prevents him from having fun. yeah thats pretty much sums it up.
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tower time posted:Honestly I can't help but wonder if the backlash by people like Christman against art and media as a reactionary force has something to do with the popularity and influence of this supreme jackass over the last decade https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Creativ...=creative+class its because people still want to have fun with media even if its not always great. i agree with him when it comes the to prestige tv stuff and how their is tons of bullshit media and articles jerking off to every mintua(and i like some "prestige" tv) i mean whats his solution? people need an escape valve. Dapper_Swindler has issued a correction as of 00:14 on Oct 9, 2017 |
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:He's not for you. Oh how tragic.
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tower time posted:Honestly I can't help but wonder if the backlash by people like Christman against art and media as a reactionary force has something to do with the popularity and influence of this supreme jackass over the last decade https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Creativ...=creative+class A lot of it is probably nerdlingers getting really wrapped up in their favorite shows and fixating on how Steven Universe does real political work for trans liberation, or like the endless parade of boring, boring people who can only understand politics through the prism of Harry Potter. The Harry Potter thing is incredibly frustrating because Rowling has become such a reactionary poo poo. That stuff kind of makes me mad too.
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Jeb! Repetition posted:Matt Christman is like a fantasy paladin in that he's filled with righteousness Also cheese curds
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Oh how tragic. I'm praying for you.
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Well the bread at my circus is really good guys. Please, just let me enjoy it.
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temple posted:Well the bread at my circus is really good guys. Please, just let me enjoy it. I agree, after coming home from my bleak underpaying job where I do the work of 3 workers because the corporate overlords figured out they could get away with it and still tell me I'm lucky they even hired me in the first place, too tired to even cook a simple meal after being insulted and harassed by bigots day in and day out and the capitalist machine grind away my spirit bit by bit I really just think it's better for me to sit in my deep depression and enjoy nothing instead of finding any form of escapism to remind me that life and happiness do and should have meaning and merit. Suicidal joylessness is much better for the human condition.
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i haven't watched the vice thing with cernovich but their charlottesville report was really good. a lot of the power was in the editing; a crowd of people screaming after the car plowed into them and then david duke gloating "we will be back!" horrifying.
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temple posted:Well the bread at my circus is really good guys. Please, just let me enjoy it. breadcel until socialism is achieved
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i haven't watched the vice thing with cernovich but their charlottesville report was really good there video stuff is sorta a different site. the news news video people are great. chaelottesville and the various syria/iraq/isis videos are amazing.
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BrutalistMcDonalds posted:i haven't watched the vice thing with cernovich but their charlottesville report was really good. a lot of the power was in the editing; a crowd of people screaming after the car plowed into them and then david duke gloating "we will be back!" horrifying. The Vice Charlottesville report would have been a mere human interest piece if it wasn't framed in the context of the car attack, and if that attack hadn't happened it would've been extremely generous to white nationalism. ZenMasterBullshit posted:I agree, after coming home from my bleak underpaying job where I do the work of 3 workers because the corporate overlords figured out they could get away with it and still tell me I'm lucky they even hired me in the first place, too tired to even cook a simple meal after being insulted and harassed by bigots day in and day out and the capitalist machine grind away my spirit bit by bit I really just think it's better for me to sit in my deep depression and enjoy nothing instead of finding any form of escapism to remind me that life and happiness do and should have meaning and merit. Suicidal joylessness is much better for the human condition. Nobody is saying that you can't enjoy art, but you should also be able to recognize when it's being reactionary.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Vice Charlottesville report would have been a mere human interest piece if it wasn't framed in the context of the car attack, and if that attack hadn't happened it would've been extremely generous to white nationalism.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:I'm praying for you. Then stop.
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Pener Kropoopkin posted:The Vice Charlottesville report would have been a mere human interest piece if it wasn't framed in the context of the car attack, and if that attack hadn't happened it would've been extremely generous to white nationalism. They knew they had a primo nut with Cantwell. Everyone in the documentary was extremely hostile to the reporter, and they chose to highlight her treatment and her reactions in the editing.
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