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Sep 26, 2017 15:31
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AlbertFlasher posted:Just preordered FM18 because I am weak  (I'll probably be joining you in your poor life decisions soon)
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Sep 26, 2017 20:22
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The discount is a pretty good idea to get more money out of shitheads like me who wait for the inevitable sale price 3 months after release.
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Sep 28, 2017 02:07
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New features video out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_1gPUeY0EY I can't watch it at work, it looks cringey as gently caress with a brief glimpse of the new UI and some new features at the end.
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Sep 29, 2017 10:57
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The short summary is improved match graphics, changes to the scouting system, and they figured out something for the new staff roles last year to do. The big new feature they are hyping looks like a more detailed leadership system.
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Sep 29, 2017 12:51
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The leadership/social circles thing actually looks cool but I doubt it'll be something you interact with much, if at all.
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Sep 29, 2017 15:33
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Some of the screens seem to give abit more info so yeah its just another minor update and a new database but gently caress it there's nothing else out there so once it goes on sale i'll buy.
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Sep 29, 2017 16:18
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You'd be better off just using a transfer update for 17 if you're after a new database just saying.
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Sep 29, 2017 17:47
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Just from looking at screenshots (gently caress no I ain't watching that video), I'm actually really interested in the leadership/social cohesion system but I'm weird like that. Combine that with the scouting and medical changes and the general trend of streamlining its presentation of info, and yeah I actually won't hate myself for buying this at 25% off (and that
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Sep 29, 2017 18:04
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Removing the curtain a bit on why your morale goes to poo poo if you drop a certain player or why a small group of assholes hates your team meetings feels like a good thing. Hopefully it works out.
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Sep 29, 2017 18:19
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here's to hoping 18 has formations that aren't extremely narrow and maybe fixes fullbacks.
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Sep 29, 2017 20:14
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Dallan Invictus posted:medical changes If they have done something with medical, I really, really hope it's less stupid than what is currently in the game, where the Physio of a Premier League club asks the Manager to decide if a £600 specialist treatment to save a month of injury for your key player is worth it. I can understand a non-league club making a decision for £600 because that's pretty much the whole team's clean sheet bonus/match fee, but at a PL club it just feels ridiculous.
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Sep 29, 2017 22:46
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Is there even a reason to have more than one Head Physio/Physio/Sport Scientist/etc? Sometimes I think that they might be useful for scouting knowledge, but they know so little I wind up firing all but one. Never noticed a difference in injuries, even while playing as Arsenal.
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Sep 29, 2017 23:47
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If I'm remembering right, someone told us once that the quality of a physio literally only determines one thing, and that's how accurate your estimate of injury lengths will be. They have no effect on how likely it is players will get injured, how bad their injuries will be, or how fast they recover. I don't know if this is still true, or even if it ever was, but it's just so perfectly FM that I 100% believe it.
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Sep 29, 2017 23:50
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sassassin posted:You'd be better off just using a transfer update for 17 if you're after a new database just saying. Are there any transfer updates that give a +1 bonus to the game name though?
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Sep 30, 2017 23:08
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The best part of that video is the guy from Creative Assembly talking about the massively improved stadiums and 3D match engine, while a monitor behind him shows a rotating view of an atmospheric floodlit foggy stadium like something out of a modern day Total War. Then at the end of the video the brief clip looks just as poo poo as ever.
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Sep 30, 2017 23:47
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mark-p87 posted:The best part of that video is the guy from Creative Assembly talking about the massively improved stadiums and 3D match engine, while a monitor behind him shows a rotating view of an atmospheric floodlit foggy stadium like something out of a modern day Total War. Then at the end of the video the brief clip looks just as poo poo as ever. Listen mate, you'll come to love the graceful motion capture of our Lord and Saviour Miles. In his infinite wisdom he crafted over 800 **unique** free-kick and corner taker preparation routines. There's the common "lift an arm in the air" or "place the ball six times in the same spot", but also ones mimicking Cristiano Ronaldo or Michael Owen so each free-kick or corner is something special you can savour.
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Oct 1, 2017 01:26
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Shazback posted:Listen mate, you'll come to love the graceful motion capture of our Lord and Saviour Miles. In his infinite wisdom he crafted over 800 **unique** free-kick and corner taker preparation routines. There's the common "lift an arm in the air" or "place the ball six times in the same spot", but also ones mimicking Cristiano Ronaldo or Michael Owen so each free-kick or corner is something special you can savour. Pre-ordered. Can't wait to play out my 20 season campaign only ever playing at the same 4 grounds.
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Oct 1, 2017 10:19
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mark-p87 posted:Pre-ordered. Can't wait to play out my 20 season campaign only ever playing at the same 4 grounds. You would have thought but now they would have knocked out some basic stadium editing tools and let the modders run wild.
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Oct 1, 2017 13:02
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remember for years the only tunnel asset they had was one from old trafford where they only half removed the man utd logo, lmao
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Oct 1, 2017 13:36
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The Croc posted:You would have thought but now they would have knocked out some basic stadium editing tools and let the modders run wild. They collected detailed stadium data in the lead up to FM 2016 (so spring 2015). Still hasn't been used at all.
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Oct 2, 2017 00:30
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sassassin posted:They collected detailed stadium data in the lead up to FM 2016 (so spring 2015). Still hasn't been used at all. FM 2025 now with authentic correct stadiums! (circa 2015)
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Oct 2, 2017 05:53
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They had researchers counting seats per section and working out latitude, longitude and orientation so the shadows on the pitch would be correct.
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Oct 2, 2017 15:46
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That sounds like the most stupid waste of time as opposed to doing something like making sure the match engine works correctly, transfers behave more realistically or the AI actually being able to build and develop a team. Then again, it is SI...
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Oct 3, 2017 07:35
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In fairness to SI, a good portion of their fan base are computer-illiterate and/or play the game on crappy PCs, laptops or tablets. Do we really think that SI and Creative Assembly, between them, could come up with a way of rendering stadiums to an acceptable degree of simulation that wouldn't drive half their users' computers into the ground every matchday? I mean, there are still plenty of people who play in 2D, and even a few hardy souls on Commentary-only.
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Oct 3, 2017 22:44
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The middle ground would involve The Liberty Stadium not having open loving corners in tyool 2016, and use appropriate existing models instead. You had the numbers in front of you! 2D & commentary are dumb legacy features that steal development time from features that actually matter. The match engine doesn't work like it used to when they were the norm, so fake reproductions have to be pasted on top of the 3d match engine. People are severely handicapping themselves by using them. sassassin fucked around with this message at 18:46 on Oct 4, 2017 |
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Oct 3, 2017 23:04
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http://www.goal.com/en/news/montpellier-defender-blames-football-manager-for-receiving/lf97tphhcik71gpxzxcysasijquote:The France-born defender signed for Ligue 1 side Montpellier from Auxerre in May, and has been getting attention after breaking into their first team. This included a call from the Bolivian Football Association about the possibility of a call-up to the national side, but unfortunately for the South American country, their eligibility information seems to incorrectly come from Football Manager.
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Oct 4, 2017 02:23
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Zero One posted:http://www.goal.com/en/news/montpellier-defender-blames-football-manager-for-receiving/lf97tphhcik71gpxzxcysasij There was a player with Hamilton Academicals a few years back who was given a Surinam 2nd nationality for some reason (possibly for a joke) in the game.
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Oct 4, 2017 18:06
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Didn't some FM player find a Filipino player a few years ago that the national team manager had never heard of? I want to say that he worked out well for the team, but I can't remember the details.
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Oct 4, 2017 22:13
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I want to say it was the Younghusbands, formerly of Chelsea.
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Oct 4, 2017 22:30
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Walton Simons posted:I want to say it was the Younghusbands, formerly of Chelsea. Yeah that sounds right.
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Oct 4, 2017 22:32
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You guys are on the ball.Wikipedia posted:Early in 2005, the Philippine Football Federation was alerted to Younghusband's eligibility by an anonymous gamer who allegedly found out about their lineage via playing Football Manager. He and his older brother, James, were eventually called up to the Southeast Asian nation's football squad, amidst much fanfare.
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Oct 5, 2017 00:59
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sebzilla posted:Yeah that sounds right. Brother of Sukinyer Dadsdik I believe
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Oct 5, 2017 01:10
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Has anyone played the FM 'beta release' thing in previous years? Is it just the full game released a couple weeks early or do they make enough changes afterwards that it isn't worth starting a new career?
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Oct 5, 2017 15:41
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GOOD TIMES ON METH posted:Has anyone played the FM 'beta release' thing in previous years? Is it just the full game released a couple weeks early or do they make enough changes afterwards that it isn't worth starting a new career? It's usually full enough to play properly. Might be missing some database stuff, have a few fun match engine issues. Actually the last couple of years the match engine got worse with every patch after the beta.
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Oct 6, 2017 13:51
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I can't remember if I've asked this question before, but in FM17 are world-class newgens and regens weighted more towards attacking roles? It seems like sometimes I go years without there being a world-class centre-back coming up anywhere in the entire world.
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Oct 6, 2017 20:19
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Jason Sextro posted:I can't remember if I've asked this question before, but in FM17 are world-class newgens and regens weighted more towards attacking roles? It seems like sometimes I go years without there being a world-class centre-back coming up anywhere in the entire world. I think that, because Defenders generally come into their own later than attackers, it's just a case of having to wait longer for them. And, of course, descriptions of players are heavily weighted by reputation. A 'World Class' defender is probably just a good defender at a club that's had lots of success.
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Oct 8, 2017 00:54
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Hmm so will Dynamics be cool and good? It definitely seems interesting and a good step towards representing the player power of the modern game. But at the same time considering how shite current player interactions are it seems like a quickly hosed up recipe. Also I'm almost certain the AI cannot manage it properly.
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Oct 9, 2017 01:42
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Its going to be one of those good ideas poorly implimented and will take many many versions to fix. I assume its just going to cause alot of people to be pissed when there long term get ruined because they accidentally pissed a player off for congratulating them for their monthly award.
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Oct 9, 2017 13:54
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Also, it'll probably be balanced around top tier leagues and big clubs within those leagues where 'player power' is perhaps more of an issue.
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Oct 9, 2017 18:25
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